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Eric Holder to Kansas governor: New state gun law unconstitutional
washingtontimes.com ^ | 5/2/13 | David Sherfinski

Posted on 05/02/2013 10:35:34 AM PDT by ColdOne

A new law in Kansas that criminalizes the enforcement of federal gun controls in the state is unconstitutional, Attorney General Eric H. Holder said.

“In purporting to override federal law and to criminalize the official acts of federal officers, [the law] directly conflicts with federal law and is therefore unconstitutional,” Mr. Holder wrote to Gov. Sam Brownback in a letter dated April 26. “Federal officers who are responsible for enforcing federal laws and regulations in order to maintain public safety cannot be forced to choose between the risk of a criminal prosecution by a state and the continued performance of their federal duties.”

Mr. Holder cites the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution, which says federal law trumps conflicting state authority or exercise of power. Kansas’s law became effective April 25.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
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To: Billthedrill

You trust those bozos after their Obamacare ruling? And dear leader will probably be choosing some new ones soon, putting them even more on his side.


81 posted on 05/02/2013 1:34:12 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

State or local officials have no lawful authority to arrest federal agents from officially and faithfully enforcing federal law even using state law as a reason. A state law enforcement official or local law enforcement official that would try to impede, interfere or try to intimidate a federal official from performing their duties would be subject to immediate arrest by the feds and be brought before a Federal magistrate. The feds would not let their agents stay in a local jail but would use federal authority to order them released.

Also, it is actually Holder’s job to remind state officials that certain of their laws conflict with federal laws. US attorneys all over the country write these letters to state officials as part of their jobs from time to time. If the state of Kansas wishes to challenge this ruling they can file suit in the US District Court in Kansas.

US Attorneys enforce federal law and part of their jobs is official memorandums to state officials that state laws are conflicting to federal law. This is not a conservative vs liberal argument but Holder doing his job.

Lastly, I am a Reagan conservative but we as conservatives need to understand how the law works.


82 posted on 05/02/2013 1:40:22 PM PDT by Tarheel25
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To: Tarheel25

Lawful does not automatically equal rational or moral.


83 posted on 05/02/2013 1:41:48 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: RWB Patriot

Oh, most certainly not. But we are a nation of laws, and you have to dance the last step before you start shooting the bastards.


84 posted on 05/02/2013 1:43:27 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: boxlunch; All
If we as a state decide we don’t want any more welfare, EBT cards, etc etc in our state, we, as a state, just say “thanks but no thanks”, stop taking federal money within the state, and reduce the amount of income tax we send in (have the states collect what they think is appropriate to send to the Fed Gov for national defense, and that’s about it).

Thank you for posting lunchbox.

Regarding your statement above, just in case you missed the excerpt below which has been posted in related threads, please consider the following.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Military issues aside, given that one of the only federal government services that the Founding States authorized Congress to sell within a state's borders is postal services as evidenced by Clause 7 of Section 8 of Article I of the Constitution, most other federal government services that we pay taxes for are based on constitutionally nonexistant federal government powers.

Sadly, the reason that the feds have been getting away with laying illegal federal taxes for the last 60+ years is the following imo. "Fat, dumb and happy" patriots have not been making sure that their children are being taught the Constitution as the Founding States had intended for it to be understood, particulary the enumerated division of federal and state power evidenced by Section 8 of Article I, Article V and the 10th Amendment.

85 posted on 05/02/2013 1:48:34 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ColdOne

WTH does Holder know about what is and is not Constitutional. Fricking Hypocrite.


86 posted on 05/02/2013 1:53:26 PM PDT by thegrump (The US is not at war with Islam, but Islam sure as H%!! is at war with the US.)
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To: ColdOne

Kansas Governor should do what Obama does with his critics - ignore them.


87 posted on 05/02/2013 1:53:32 PM PDT by PapaNew
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88 posted on 05/02/2013 1:56:20 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Amendment10

Thanks. So do you think any part of those ideas are possible/achieveable?


89 posted on 05/02/2013 1:57:45 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: ColdOne

In the future, it’s going to be tough to be a good rank-and-file “liberal” or “progressive”....there will just be so much innuendo flying.

None the less...when my leftist neighbor finds himself totally screwed on the Obamacare waiting list or in the criminal justice system...I will nod sympathetically over the fence. That’s all I’ll owe.


90 posted on 05/02/2013 2:02:11 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Amendment10; All
Thank you for posting lunchbox.

Mea culpa. Although I am very much interested in the discussion on this thread, I think that my previous post was intended for another thread. Sorry for confusion.

91 posted on 05/02/2013 2:09:20 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ColdOne

FUEH


92 posted on 05/02/2013 2:16:14 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Uncle Miltie

Any response from the Governor?


93 posted on 05/02/2013 2:16:21 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: RWB Patriot

Bwahahaha!!!!! yes he does! One of those iron skillet kind.


94 posted on 05/02/2013 2:31:39 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

Its the federal laws that are unconstitutional.

Kansas has the power to uphold the US constitution.


95 posted on 05/02/2013 2:40:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: boxlunch

I think Utah and Arizona have made it legal to use gold for pmts. As long as you could figure out how to get paid that way...There was a story awhile back of someone paying employees in silver dollars; helped out with payroll taxes counting $1.00 instead of the real worth of the silver. Except the Feds caught up with him.


96 posted on 05/02/2013 2:47:03 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Tarheel25

That may be how the law works but if a law is unjust or constitutional then just acceptance of it, even if it has been approved by the court, isn’t right. That’s hoe I feel about Obamacare, and I don’t plan on filling out that form for the IRS. If they want to imprison or impoverish me, so be it.


97 posted on 05/02/2013 2:54:07 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: ColdOne
what that FPOS knows about the Constitution could be printed on the tip of a needle...
98 posted on 05/02/2013 3:01:53 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ColdOne

Holder can read?


99 posted on 05/02/2013 3:09:16 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. We need to start over.)
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To: Tarheel25

There is a big twist to this.

The SCOTUS has in past recognized that state courts are inferior to federal courts; and that state legislatures are inferior to congress; however, they have *never* found that the POTUS is superior to state governors.

This means that the only way the president can enforce his will over that of state governors is by force of arms.

The last time this was done was when Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne into Little Rock to force integration, despite the presence of the Arkansas National Guard, under the orders of governor Orval Faubus.

The trick, in this case, would be to arrange a similar situation, figuring that the current administration is too spineless to send in the Army to enforce an unconstitutional law.

Granted, all else being equal, the feds would eventually win. But the purpose of the exercise would be to so thoroughly embarrass them, and rally so much opposition to them, that they would lose the game.


100 posted on 05/02/2013 3:10:09 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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