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If we as a state decide we don’t want any more welfare, EBT cards, etc etc in our state, we, as a state, just say “thanks but no thanks”, stop taking federal money within the state, and reduce the amount of income tax we send in (have the states collect what they think is appropriate to send to the Fed Gov for national defense, and that’s about it).

Thank you for posting lunchbox.

Regarding your statement above, just in case you missed the excerpt below which has been posted in related threads, please consider the following.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Military issues aside, given that one of the only federal government services that the Founding States authorized Congress to sell within a state's borders is postal services as evidenced by Clause 7 of Section 8 of Article I of the Constitution, most other federal government services that we pay taxes for are based on constitutionally nonexistant federal government powers.

Sadly, the reason that the feds have been getting away with laying illegal federal taxes for the last 60+ years is the following imo. "Fat, dumb and happy" patriots have not been making sure that their children are being taught the Constitution as the Founding States had intended for it to be understood, particulary the enumerated division of federal and state power evidenced by Section 8 of Article I, Article V and the 10th Amendment.

Thanks. So do you think any part of those ideas are possible/achieveable?

Thank you for posting lunchbox.

Mea culpa. Although I am very much interested in the discussion on this thread, I think that my previous post was intended for another thread. Sorry for confusion.