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Ted Cruz 2016: The freshman senator is considering a run for president.
National Review ^ | 05/01/2013 | Robert Costa

Posted on 05/01/2013 5:39:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: BarnacleCenturion
Yeah so what was the point about the endless debate about Obama’s birth certificate? His mother was born in The US and yet he still had to prove that he was born in Hawaii. This issue won’t go away.

I have yet to see anything I regard as unassailable proof that he was actually born in Hawaii. Hawaii has a peculiar law which allows the issue of birth certificates to people who were not actually born there.

121 posted on 05/01/2013 4:00:06 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: X-spurt
Not being any Constitutional authority, I have read lots of what others, who are, have to say regarding NBC and frankly NBC is like a bottomless pit, lots of questions and assumptions, but very few answers.

Have you seen this?

This is part of a law book which sums up the work of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania regarding which British Statutes were in effect in Pennsylvania. Here is the title page of the book.

Here is the link to it if you want to see the book yourself. It was in high demand, and they had to print another addition of it in 1847.

http://archive.org/stream/digestofselectbr00robe#page/n8/mode/1up

122 posted on 05/01/2013 4:13:13 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: X-spurt
I think this is a subject to never be proven if the question of NBC is in a grey area, even by a stretch. One side or the other will always give them the benefit of the doubt.

I'm pretty certain that Cruz's status is NOT a gray area. He must either be ruled a non "natural born citizen", or the Supreme Court has to overturn Rogers v Bellei, because Bellei and Cruz have exactly the same legal circumstances of birth.

Bellei's citizenship was revoked because he did not adhere the requirements of the Congressional Statute which granted citizenship to those born in a foreign country of at least one American parent.

It is axiomatic that a "natural born citizen" cannot have his citizenship revoked for failing to adhere to the requirements of a congressional statute which granted him citizenship. A "natural" citizen needs no positive law to be a citizen. Any citizen who is only a citizen through the operation of some positive law, is not a "natural" citizen.

123 posted on 05/01/2013 4:20:47 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Perdogg
9) Cruz allies laugh at the idea that Canadian birth will be a prob. Say he's brilliant atty, knows how to explain how he's "natural born"— Robert Costa (@robertcostaNRO) May 1, 2013

Rogers v Bellei proves he is not. It's not going to matter how brilliant he is, the precedent is against him.

124 posted on 05/01/2013 4:22:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Larry - Moe and Curly

This is simple. If you have to think about it, you’re not.

(natural born citizen, that is.)


125 posted on 05/01/2013 4:25:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: SeekAndFind
HOT DAMN!!!

Keep doing what he's doing, he's got my vote and a little change from my pocket.

Stay the conservative course Ted, you're shining.

126 posted on 05/01/2013 4:29:33 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: babble-on

It’ set by the Constitution at noon on January 20. But close ;)


127 posted on 05/01/2013 4:31:43 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: DiogenesLamp; Larry - Moe and Curly

To say the least “this” is a subject of much conjecture.

Both of you and some others here have good points, the problem as I see it is that until such time as a bonafide NBC case gets to AND is heard by the SCOTUS, none of the arguments matter to a hill of beans as to Law.

No one has been able to get anything toward nobama’s NBC to the SCOTUS and if there were ever high motivation it is here.

Who would challenge Cruz’s NBC? I think not the Left for they will avoid any chance everything done by nobama being subject to deletion if its ever proven he was not eligible.


128 posted on 05/01/2013 4:59:30 PM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Paladin2
Also throw in Conneticut and New York to reduce future problems. There goes Bloomberg and the UN.
129 posted on 05/01/2013 5:46:44 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: X-spurt

Cruz was born in Canada. No one knows where 0mozlem was born, who his real parents are, what is his DOB, or what his name was at birth. A mythical tale and forged documents are all he’s presented.


130 posted on 05/01/2013 6:44:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Texas Fossil
Ted Cruz is a Natural Born Citizen.

Those who disagree are stupid idiots.

YES, that is what you are.

You have NO authority at all, on your side. Not a single elected official supports you, not a single Judge supports you, not a single immigration attorney supports you.

I support Cruz for many reasons, one of the most important reasons being:

I WANT TO DEFEAT YOU IDIOT BIRTHERS!

You do not speak for the Conservative cause. Birtherism was started by HILLARY CLINTON!

131 posted on 05/01/2013 7:15:42 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: mardi59

You are wrong.
Cruz CAN run.
You have absolutely no authority on this issue.


132 posted on 05/01/2013 7:16:32 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: little jeremiah

There are some things that are known about ( )o( )bama that will never change.


133 posted on 05/01/2013 7:32:36 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: Kansas58
Ted Cruz is a Natural Born Citizen.

Those who disagree are stupid idiots.

YES, that is what you are.

My my my. Wonder who made you the Pope?

134 posted on 05/01/2013 7:43:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
Name a SINGLE legal authority on your side?

Name a SINGLE elected official on your side?

Name a SINGLE judge on your side?

Name a SINGLE conservative leader on your side?

Yes, radical birthers are idiots. They are ignorant of the law, willfully ignorant. There is absolutely NOTHING “conservative” about the radical Birthers.

Yes, I have great suspicions about Obama’s past, but it is SETTLED law that those born of US Parents, CAN be Natural Born Citizens even if not born on US Soil.

Cruz met the requirements for Citizenship at birth, based on the laws in place when he was born.

PERIOD!

Again, present an AUTHORITY on this issue or please shut up.

135 posted on 05/01/2013 7:47:55 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Yes, I have great suspicions about Obama’s past, but it is SETTLED law that those born of US Parents, CAN be Natural Born Citizens even if not born on US Soil.

That statement is correct. But only one of Cruz's parents was a US citizen when he was born.

136 posted on 05/01/2013 7:54:00 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
Ok, those born of ONE US Parent, on Foreign Soil CAN be Natural Born Citizens, based on the laws on the books at the time of birth.

Cruz met those requirements.

NOBODY agrees with your silly “cause” -— birtherism is pure foolishness.

137 posted on 05/01/2013 7:55:39 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

I don’t care what you think.

But you are rude and insulting.

I will not continue this.


138 posted on 05/01/2013 7:56:01 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Kansas58

that restatement is incorrect.


139 posted on 05/01/2013 7:57:13 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
Birthers richly deserve to be insulted.

You are distracted resources and money and time from things that really matter.

It is RUDE of you and INSULTING of you to try to hijack the conservative cause with your stupidity.

Cruz has my support, Cruz is 100% eligible to be President of the United States.

140 posted on 05/01/2013 7:57:34 PM PDT by Kansas58
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