I have no idea how the complex computers didn’t detect the load unbalance at takeoff.
It is baffling to say the least.
I have no idea how the complex computers didn’t detect the load unbalance at takeoff.
It is baffling to say the least.
I saw this a few hours ago and didn’t post it because the timestamp on the video says 2/1/2013. I suppose the date could be off on the camera. I was waiting to see if anyone else reported it...liveleak appears to be the only source at the moment and I would have thought it would be all over the news.
The Liveleak video won’t play for me...
Is it the same as this youtube version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAASJlIQn9g
Looks like an awfully steep take off.
Departure stall due to aft CG?
What a horrible thing to see.
RIP, guys.
I read on another site that the loadmaster was onboard and was one of the seven killed. That was difficult to watch.
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Can we be sure Ron Brown wasn’t on board?
Nasty, wonder if cargo shifted or they simply did not get the CG correctly set. AOA very high at point video is taken. Either loss of thrust or bad CG but as airspeed rapidly drops nose departs left and than 747 departs flight and rolls right. Passing through nose level the gear is coming back down as you see the nose gear dropping just before impact. Pilot was extending gear back down. They knew they were in real trouble. Sad to see. Prayers for the air crew and their families.
747?........
Departure stall due to improper loading moving CG aft?
Horribly sad video — prayers up...
Our USAF son was stationed at Bagram for 6 months in 2011, and he just redeployed to the Middle East a week ago. (But not Afghanistan this time...)
So grateful that he wasn’t there to witness this terrible tragedy.
According to an updated press release on National Air Cargo’s website, the plane was transporting several vehicles to Dubai, United Arab Emirates:
“At approximately 7 a.m. EST, National Flight NCR102 from Bagram to Dubai, UAE with seven crewmembers on board crashed on takeoff. None of the crew members survived. This was a purely cargo flight and no passengers were aboard. Cargo consisted of vehicles and routine general cargo.
National will release additional information as it becomes available, in cooperation with government authorities. Our focus at this time is on the family members of those we’ve lost, and on assisting the NTSB and Afghanistan Civil Aviation Authority in their investigations. As of now, the cause of the accident is unknown.”
The plane — owned by National Airlines, an Orlando, Florida-based subsidiary of National Air Cargo — was carrying vehicles and other cargo, according to National Air Cargo Vice President Shirley Kaufman. She said those killed were four pilots, two mechanics and a load master, who was responsible for making sure that the weight and balance of the cargo is appropriate.
Five of the seven fatalities were from Michigan, said Kaufman.
Fox 2 reports one of the victims has been identified as Brad Hasler, a Michigan father of two whose wife is pregnant.
“Yesterday morning our family learned of the terrible tragedy that occurred at Bagram Air Force Base in Afghanistan, and that Brad was among the crew members who perished. Brad was a wonderful father to two young children, a beloved husband to a wife who is expecting another child, a loving son, and the most loyal and supportive brother I could have ever asked for,” Hasler’s brother, Bill, wrote in a statement released Tuesday.
The identities of the other passengers have not yet been revealed.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04...#ixzz2RzHNmhf7
The aircraft just barely cleared the end of the runway, crashing within the northern perimeter road. By the time it appears in the video it had lost nearly all of its forward momentum and only moves up two or three plane lengths — most of its motion was “flat”. It would have had zero aerodynamic control in those first frames of the video. Whatever happened, happened immediately on rotation.
As the manifested load were vehicles of a known type and weight, my guess is part of the load broke loose and shifted aft probably right at rotation or slightly after takeoff, causing the Center of Gravity to rapidly shift aft beyond aircraft control limits. This resulted in a steeper and steeper nose rise, rapid loss of airspeed, and stall. Once the load broke loose and they were airborne, they were doomed.
What an awful tragedy!
The aircraft was in Fresno, CA recently (layover at FAT cheaper than LAX)...the crew gave tours to local A&P students:
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=9085477