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To: South40

Looks like an awfully steep take off.


8 posted on 04/30/2013 2:19:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, I’ve never seen such a large plane that vertical and stalled before. Sad for all on board.


17 posted on 04/30/2013 2:23:20 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: cripplecreek
You got that right.
A very steep angle of attack for any commercial jetliner.
Yes it could have been a load shift. But ? remember about 10 years ago a military B-52 was flying around at a air force base and the pilot was playing around trying to be a top gun and banked to steep and the plane lost lift and stalled ?
It could have been anything from a load shift, a inexperienced pilot, thrust reverser ? horizontal stabilizer gone wrong ? a topgun pilot trying to be cool in trying to pull a high angle take off ?
23 posted on 04/30/2013 2:28:20 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: cripplecreek
Looks like an awfully steep take off.

It was way too steep for a takeoff - you might be able to pull off a steep takeoff like that in an empty aircraft, but just from that video, it looks like a stall to me, and specifically like the cargo shifted rapidly. Cargo shifting the center of gravity can do that, and apparently it had vehicles, which could shift rapidly on takeoff if one broke free and slammed into another one.

T&P to t he family, whoever was at the controls did one helluva job trying to recover. He looked to be doing everything he could to recover and might have pulled it off if he had more altitude. I couldn't imagine facing such a situation.
63 posted on 04/30/2013 4:00:57 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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