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To: cotton1706

let’s put Cruz on the VP ticket.

and get the National Born citizenship answered once and for all


6 posted on 04/30/2013 6:07:04 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Hmmmm that would be interesting ...

But we need him in the senate, he’s doing a h3lluva job keeping the gungrabbers at bay.


10 posted on 04/30/2013 6:18:26 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: RummyChick

Natural born.

I’d prefer him in the presidential slot.

You tell me. Is he an American citizen? Check.

He was born in Canada, they always scream. Then is a Canadian citizen? No. Check.

Ok. His mother was American her whole life (natural born), native of Delaware. She had a job in Canada when Ted was born. Again, what difference does that make?

According to Ted Cruz, who’s a constitutional expert, there are two ways to be a citizen. You either are a citizen from birth, or else you become a citizen later through the immigration and naturalization process.

The only argument I’ve ever wavered on is whether it takes two parents who are citizens to be a natural born citizen. The soil where the mother drops the child makes no sense as being the determinative factor. Ted believes the mother’s citizenship is the determining factor.

I ask you and all, if Ted’s mom had been a native born Texan, and while on a trip to Mexico Ted had been born, would Ted be a man without a country? A Mexican? What?

He would be an American, natural born as opposed to naturalized.

There is so much misinformation on this...

It makes ME want to SCREAM.


14 posted on 04/30/2013 6:39:55 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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And the fact that America ACCEPTS “anchor babies” as citizens - illegal entrant mom drops baby on our soil, deliberately, then whole extended family gets to come because the baby is a “citizen of America”, is LEGALLY wrong.

And it confuses the issue, and is a lot of what’s wrong with people’s mixed-up thinking on the issue of natural born vs naturalized.

But just because we illicitly (and stupidly) recognize anchor babies does not mean that if a baby is born abroad to an American, they’re not natural born. If the anchor baby thing were extended out, they would be a citizen of whatever country they were dropped in, or, if that country didn’t recognize that, they would not be American at all, but would be “a man without a country”, and would have to be naturalized later. I’m saying, if the anchor baby reasoning were carried out to include Americans like Ted, born abroad...

But it doesn’t work. You can see it doesn’t work. Here’s a family living at 123 America Lane and all are citizens. Mom crosses a border on a trip and her baby decides to come. We are supposed to believe he or she has to now worry, oh dear, how am I going to attain status? I’m like an alien in my own land...

NO!


16 posted on 04/30/2013 7:04:20 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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