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What Will Happen When The Government Collapses?
The Western Center for Journalism ^ | Arpil 27, 2013 | Floyd Brown

Posted on 04/29/2013 9:11:55 AM PDT by Perseverando

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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Off the top of my head I'm not aware of a major government collapsing absent actual invasion and conquest.

USSR is one recent example. It no longer exists, new governments were set up to replace it.

/johnny

51 posted on 04/29/2013 10:26:32 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Vinylly
My daughter and son-in-law will be vacationioning in Spain next week. I should be getting a first hand report about conditions there.

I, among others, would be VERY interested in whatever you report. Please ping me when you do!

52 posted on 04/29/2013 10:27:49 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: grumpygresh

BRAVO!!!


Hopefully, we can create islands of stability by encouraging the civil society in red states. However, this will require the passage of state laws that discourage Leftist migration from the blue states. Promote laws that restrict welfare benefits, uphold gun rights, family values, ban/restrict abortion in addition to advancing free-market policies


We’ve GOT to start saying this over and over!!! You are so right.We’ve got to go back to NOT BEING ASHAMED TO LEGISLATE CHRISTIAN VALUES!!!!!! And stop cowering behind the fear that someone will call us names or think we aren’t “modern” or whatever. ALL laws are a legislation of SOMEONE’s morality (whether a liberal Californian thinks it should be illegal to kill a spotted golden swampbutterfly, or whether a Christian community thinks it should be illegal to kill a human baby.) If we are not ashamed of Christ, especially in our allegiance and our laws, I truly believe God will protect us. I’m praying that our men in all conservative states and areas of the country will see the depravity and anarchy as the time to turn back to God in our laws and education. We conservative women will be behind them, supporting and praying for them 100%!!!


53 posted on 04/29/2013 10:31:17 AM PDT by boxlunch
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To: donna; clamper1797
They will be met by a hail of gunfire from my house in Tempe

And they'll die of thirst before they ever reach my house in Scottsdale. :)

I think the one certainty is that the central bankers' puppet government has no intention of collapsing, regardless of what happens to the economy or to us producers.

54 posted on 04/29/2013 10:33:55 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Perseverando

I’m sure of one thing. We will continue paying for it.


55 posted on 04/29/2013 10:33:58 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Vinylly

I’d love to hear their observances too, if you think to ping me when you post.


56 posted on 04/29/2013 10:34:56 AM PDT by boxlunch
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To: Perseverando

“What Will Happen When The Government Collapses?”

You will be on your own so get prepared to be self sufficient.


57 posted on 04/29/2013 10:34:57 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: donna
If it starts head North.

Avoid St Louis and Chicago.

Continue until you get here.

The Canadians might invade but the worst that will happen is that they will make you eat gravy on your French fries.

58 posted on 04/29/2013 10:35:54 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: Iron Munro

Yup.

The Govt.,far from collapsing, will exponentially explode. It`ll be just the opportunity the Statists, both Democrat and Republican, have been waiting for.


59 posted on 04/29/2013 10:36:02 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Perseverando

What will precipitate the collapse will be a tyrannical government or even a dictatorship. I could see large numbers of states leaving the union and forming their own countries. I do not believe that the US military will follow orders to fire on American citizens so there will not be a civil war, just a collapse of the union.


60 posted on 04/29/2013 10:43:03 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: unixfox

I’m afraid Government won’t so much collapse as crush we the people who live beneath its jackboot.

Governments don’t generally collapse they just become totalitarian like Bloomberg’s New York. They have the guns and the forces to uses them they will see to it that they get the money they want no matter the costs.


61 posted on 04/29/2013 10:59:50 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Old Sarge
United States Decaying From Within! Stocks, Gold and Dollar Outlook

"Meanwhile these select few are out there buying all the gold, silver, available farm land and any other tangible, useful asset they can get their hands on because they know what’s coming."

"The economic devastation will lead to armed conflict and the results will be tragic. It will take generations before we recover, and there’s always the chance that we won’t ever be the same, so prepare your self."

62 posted on 04/29/2013 11:00:31 AM PDT by blam
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To: MachIV

some of us might have a “itchy finger”


63 posted on 04/29/2013 11:02:57 AM PDT by Lockbar (The guy that fires the last bullet gets to write the history books,)
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To: Resolute Conservative

This weekend I cranked up the DVR and re-watched “Cromwell”. Sadly I don’t see anyway to avoid the collapse that is coming expect if the military stages a coup at some point.

And that is a crap shoot. Do you get a restoration of the republic or a military junta?

As you say I fear for my children’s future, it looks rather bleak.


64 posted on 04/29/2013 11:15:22 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: EQAndyBuzz
You know, that seems like a pretty plausible scenario.
65 posted on 04/29/2013 11:15:37 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: Perseverando
PRESIDENT HAYES: So, what can we expect now that the Gao-uld have invaded Earth?

JACKSON: Slavery. Death. More slavery. Did I mention death? We TOLD you so!"

H: OK. Now that you've gotten that off your chest, is there anything you can contribute that helps?"

-- Stargate: Continuum

66 posted on 04/29/2013 11:16:47 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: unixfox

First thing is Clan Lurker throws one hell of a party.


67 posted on 04/29/2013 11:20:28 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

There is the ongoing discussion of whether it will be “Without Rule of Law” or “Excessive Rule of Law”.

The reality will probably be both.

The fedgov will not have the resources to be everywhere,
but where they are it will be heavy handed and excessive.


68 posted on 04/29/2013 11:20:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Vinylly; Old Sarge

Ditto on the ping.


69 posted on 04/29/2013 11:24:34 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: Edgar3
Incorrect assumption. They know EXACTLY what they are doing. They are QUITE competent in destroying us.

A few minutes ago, FOX's Megyn Kelly said "we weren't supposed to have a muslim brotherhood president but there he sits" and my jaw dropped thinking she was finally outting hussein. It took a few moments to realize she was talking about Egypt. At the time, I was in the other room making a list of garden seeds I was short of for next year and thinking of ways to expand the garden... just in case.

70 posted on 04/29/2013 11:35:06 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Obadiah

They will be vacationing in the mountainous Basque region and go down as far a Barcelona. I pray they will be safe. Here’s what is going on in Madrid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybwWgPOKJ2Y&sns=em


71 posted on 04/29/2013 11:36:56 AM PDT by Vinylly
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To: BarbM
But isn't the right more armed than the left? If the Govt collapsed, wouldn't those who own arms have more power than the libs?

Did you miss the jackboots in Boston last week yanking people out of their homes at gun point? Too many people think our military won't turn on the citizens...

72 posted on 04/29/2013 11:39:25 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: boxlunch

I agree with you 100%. We need to resurrect what was once unashamedly called the “Christian consensus” which means that our society and laws should comport with the essential elements of Judeo-Christian thought. This does not in any way mean that states should create their own theocracies; but it does mean that there are certain absolute and time tested truths that can be used to promote the civil society. These constructs are an anathema to the moral relativism of the Left and they provide more than sufficent means of excluding their ilk. The Left can occupy their Sodoms and Gomorrahs, and the results will be predictable.

We just need a few key states to take these ideas seriously.


73 posted on 04/29/2013 11:46:52 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: Old Sarge
“Yo Trayvon, who you be votin' fo' in 2012 2016?”

Fixed it.

74 posted on 04/29/2013 11:54:54 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: grumpygresh
“Just look at the empires that fell mostly from pressures within: ...Soviet Union.”

I remember when the Berlin wall fell. One day it was there and the next day it was on the ground. The guards were gone and east Berliners were tearing it down.

Remember the day Bush had a press conference with his money men there and said there had to be a bailout right then or the major banks would fail. We didn't know it until that day.

I fear we won't know the country has failed on its obligations, until the announcement is made one day and the govn. confiscates our savings accounts that day. I think we are treading water and about to go down the drain before we know it.

75 posted on 04/29/2013 11:57:39 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: qam1
just maybe they will finally grasp what a bunch of fools they have been.

Don't count on it. They'll probably still be trying to blame anything other than themselves.

76 posted on 04/29/2013 12:01:54 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: 7thson; Jim Robinson
“However, what about the military and the police? Which way will they swing? We already saw what happened in Boston. Will that happen nationwide or will some police units side with the citizens?”

Psychological group think takes over united cop types. What happened in Boston will happen to the country. All the cops types took on a group mentality - it was they, as a group with a common identity against the rest of the citizens in order to get the bad guy.

Once all the cop types unite, psychological group think rules and the orders given to them unite them as one. From that point on, outsiders (meaning individual citizens) don't matter anymore. They won't let their group down by deviating from orders given.

You are going to be saying, “Why would the cops/state guard/national guard/Homeland Security cops, do that to citizens?” Group think/goals/orders will be the answer as to why they did/do it.

Look at human behavior. Most people want to belong to a group to feel they “belong”. One of the strongest groups is law enforcement. When they are together, everyone else is an outsider. They will work in groups and citizens better follow the orders given to them by the cop group/mayor/governor, etc.. If you don't follow orders, the cop group will be on you and you have no standing with the cop group. You are going down, one way or another.

77 posted on 04/29/2013 12:16:08 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Old Sarge

Hilarious!


78 posted on 04/29/2013 12:19:57 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: Marcella

There will be pockets of Excessive Rule of Law,
and places where they can’t get to that will be
Without Rule of Law.


79 posted on 04/29/2013 12:21:46 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thanks. I’m familiar with Matt “Travis McGee” Bracken.


80 posted on 04/29/2013 12:55:16 PM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Perseverando
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!


81 posted on 04/29/2013 1:16:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The Third Reich and the USSR had no intention of collapsing, either.

(or at least not for another 988 years, in the case of the Reich).


82 posted on 04/29/2013 1:20:28 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Vinylly

Please keep me posted on your D and SIL’s Spain travel. Thanks.


83 posted on 04/29/2013 1:23:25 PM PDT by Jane Long (I know it's only been four years, but I'm already SO sick of this socialism!)
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To: bgill

Were the jackboots in Boston military or militarized police?

And all of Massachusetts is somewhat of a special case; they lick the hand that feeds them, their chains rest lightly upon them.


84 posted on 04/29/2013 1:26:25 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: supremedoctrine

What the hell is wrong with your “f” key?


85 posted on 04/29/2013 1:36:24 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
And they'll die of thirst before they ever reach my house in Scottsdale. :)

I don't know ... with all the low lifes that live in that Paradise Valley area ... you're closer to the zombies that we are in Tempe. :<)

86 posted on 04/29/2013 2:22:35 PM PDT by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: Perseverando

Thank you for maintaining the ping list.


87 posted on 04/29/2013 3:08:40 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

That last is already happening to an exent in places like L.A. Look into the situation by searching with keywords like Los Angeles ethnic cleansing blacks Mexicans.


88 posted on 04/29/2013 3:21:29 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: supremedoctrine

Why did you delete the letter f out of that entire last post?


89 posted on 04/29/2013 4:12:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I'm not aware of a major government collapsing absent actual invasion and conquest.

Soviet Union?

90 posted on 04/29/2013 4:25:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (HEY RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Windflier

I explained it b4 to you.It doesn’t work.
I am getting it looked at manana.


91 posted on 04/29/2013 7:05:30 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Perseverando
bttt

INT QRK INT QRK INT QRK

92 posted on 04/29/2013 7:06:10 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Kartographer
Remember this one?

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolfe

93 posted on 04/29/2013 8:13:19 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: bgill

Good point...


94 posted on 04/29/2013 8:25:44 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Bernard Marx
I'm sure there a good number of congresscritters,rich people, celebs, and media that see the obvious....that we are losing our freedom and our country...

but everyone is so afraid to say anything.....

a perfect storm...

95 posted on 04/29/2013 8:40:45 PM PDT by cherry
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To: metmom

my beloved upstate NY.....take care of her.....


96 posted on 04/29/2013 8:42:04 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Old Sarge

“WHO DOES THIS SOUND LIKE?”

Sadly, it sounds like most anybody occupying the halls of power in Washington DC these days. albeit to varying degrees.


97 posted on 04/29/2013 9:01:34 PM PDT by Bshaw (,A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“WOLVERINES!!!”

Wolverines indeed! I think you’ll enjoy this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUNjqn4sc14


98 posted on 04/29/2013 9:09:08 PM PDT by Bshaw (,A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: unixfox

Freedom? Doubtful look for something between Argentine collapse & the orgy of bloodlust that was Rwanda in 98 . All depending on how big a percentage of the population is awake & aware of just how much damage the corrupt political class have done.


99 posted on 04/29/2013 9:25:04 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: donna

Then prepare to take as many as possible with you .


100 posted on 04/29/2013 9:26:07 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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