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Shootings echo for the few who have fired guns in self defense
St. Louis Post Dispatch ^ | April 28, 2013 | Jesse Bogan

Posted on 04/28/2013 8:20:16 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

The threat emerged here in the evening darkness, as John Wolf was out for a walk on the fringe of his working-class neighborhood. The threat was a suspicious man, also on foot, coming right at him.

Wolf crossed the street, breathed easier and kept going. Soon enough, though, the same man sneaked behind Wolf and stuck a .38 caliber revolver into his neck.

“He must have told me he was going to kill me 10 times,” said Wolf, 59.

Unbeknownst to the robber, Wolf had his own .40-caliber Glock semi-automatic pistol hidden under a loose hanging shirt. And so there, on May 4, 2010, near the 1300 block of Eagles Way Court, Wolf had a decision before him that only a fraction of gun owners make.

For all the attention that is placed on the nation’s estimated 300 million firearms, most guns rest in cases, drawers and safes. Few are holstered. Few get used to actually stop a threat. Even armed soldiers and police officers often go entire careers without firing a shot on duty.

But Wolf is the kind of avid gun collector who had worked through in his head how he might react in exactly this situation. Even so, in that moment, he wondered.

Would he cower? Could he regain control quick enough? Was it worth the risk? Or would he get shot in the back walking away if he went along with the robbery?

Wolf began by playing along. He handed over his wallet. Then he asked if he could have his license back. The distraction gave Wolf the precious split second in a stick-up he needed to pull his own weapon, rack a round into the chamber and tell the robber to drop it.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


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To: lgjhn23

Per the article, even the police chided Wolf for not already having a round chambered. And, after chambering a round, Wolf emptied his entire mag into the guy and then loaded a spare mag into his Glock .40 cal.


21 posted on 04/28/2013 9:18:27 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Data on the incidents of guns’ being used in self-defense vary widely from study to study. But only a tiny sliver of people use guns to kill someone engaged in a felony.

VPC has been playing up this angle lately, "if so few guns are actually used to stop violent crimes, why own one?" To this I say, "So what?" I have a fire extinguisher in my garage. I have never used it to fight a fire. In fact, I'd bet the vast majority of fire extinguishers hanging from walls across America have never been used to fight fires and I'm sure their owners, as am I, are perfectly happy with this. Doesn't mean I'm going to get rid of it.

22 posted on 04/28/2013 9:19:23 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: RWGinger

I think that she is a Meth addict. Just look at her face, nose, and scratching constantly. The poor child wandering around behind this witch must be saying to herself, “Mommy is crazy,”


23 posted on 04/28/2013 9:20:45 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Colorado Doug
It was probably a .22...


24 posted on 04/28/2013 9:21:08 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: Drew68

I like your fire extinguisher analogy. Makes a very good point.


25 posted on 04/28/2013 9:24:36 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: Drew68

In that case, people defending themselves ought to always kill the perp rather than wounding him or holding him for police. If ya gotta kill ‘em for it to ‘count’, VPC must want more dead perps.


26 posted on 04/28/2013 9:34:45 AM PDT by Bob
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To: RoosterRedux

Thanks for the picture. I had never heard of such a thing. I’m not sure that I would want one but I guess it worked for her. Still an Anaconda would have gotten her point across much better.


27 posted on 04/28/2013 9:42:52 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: RoosterRedux

Cylinder length and shape indicates that is the .22 magnum version. Trust me, I know these things.


28 posted on 04/28/2013 9:45:58 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Those commenting about Wolf pulling his weapon and racking it being BS didn’t read the full article. He handed the criminal his wallet and ASKED if he could just have his drivers license back. AS the criminal was apparently looking into the wallet, it gave Wolf the 2/3 seconds to rack. Smart move. See the advice the good Sheriff gave him.


29 posted on 04/28/2013 9:50:15 AM PDT by capt B
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To: MHGinTN

Yep. I have a friend who carries one.


30 posted on 04/28/2013 9:50:40 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: Colorado Doug
Dixie Ranger .22

31 posted on 04/28/2013 9:51:54 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Mouton
I don’t think carrying a double action firearm and then having to rack it before being ready to fire is a good idea. If you pull it, be ready to use it, immediately especially if one already has a firearm at the ready against you, IMO.

For sure - always one in the tube so the most you might need to do is thumb any safety off. My pocket pieces are "LEO Spec" in that they have no safety. Convenient but the longer trigger pull takes a bit to get used to and to be able to maintain "double-tap efficiency". Way too much can go wrong if you try to acquire it in a hurry and have to worry about chambering a round on top of it.

32 posted on 04/28/2013 9:55:09 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Try practicing with air soft of the same model you carry. One of those little pellets is a great reminder of how you blew it. WEAR SAFETY GLASSES!!!


33 posted on 04/28/2013 9:58:14 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Second Amendment First
Magic Thinking seems to be a hallmark of any class of people dependent upon fedzilla for life:

“He could have shot my son in the arm or in the leg,” said Christopher Holland Sr. “I’d rather see my son in jail right now.”

The father said he left the incident in God’s hands and now, several times a week, he drives past the scene of his son’s death and honks.

“I say, ‘Hey, Little Chris,’ just to let him know I haven’t forgotten him.”

Had Wolf shot the perp in the arm or leg, the perp might well have shot Wolf in the chest or head in return. Best to drop the perp asap with however many boolits it takes to stop the assault delivered as quickly as events permit. The night blindness after the first muzzle flash is also a real phenomenon, and probably why Wolf was not prosecuted for shooting the perp in the back.

34 posted on 04/28/2013 10:01:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Mouton

Even if you have one in the chamber, having your gun in the holster when the other guy has his drawn puts you way behind.


35 posted on 04/28/2013 10:02:29 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: RoosterRedux
And, after chambering a round, Wolf emptied his entire mag into the guy and then loaded a spare mag into his Glock .40 cal.

He needed one of those 30 round magazines.

36 posted on 04/28/2013 10:02:38 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

I was wondering how a man could get shot by 10+ rnds of .40 cal and still walk across the street.


37 posted on 04/28/2013 10:06:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: RoosterRedux; All

“I was wondering how a man could get shot by 10+ rnds of .40 cal and still walk across the street.”

Not that uncommon. It takes a while for shot to have an effect. He did knock the guy down first. Immediate effects are close to certain with central nervous system hits, but even they are not 100%.


38 posted on 04/28/2013 10:30:11 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: RoosterRedux

IIRC, the story has two rounds that actually hit the perp, from behind.


39 posted on 04/28/2013 10:37:47 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: outofsalt

Isn’t that cute! I know that it could kill you but it would be hard to take someone seriously with one of those. A fatal mistake to be sure.


40 posted on 04/28/2013 10:39:46 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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