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Bloomberg: New Yorkers will 'never know where our cameras are'
rt ^ | April 26, 2013 22:49

Posted on 04/27/2013 11:02:34 PM PDT by Red Steel

New York City police officials intend to expand the already extensive use of surveillance cameras throughout town. The plan, unveiled Thursday, comes as part of a drive for increased security around the US following the Boston Marathon attack.

New York City Police Department Commissioner Ray Kelly announced the plan during a press conference with Mayor Michael Bloomberg, in which the two announced that the suspected Boston Marathon bombers were planning to attack New York next. The pair said they hope to discourage criminals by using so-called “smart cameras” that will aggregate data from 911 alerts, arrest records, mapped crime patterns, surveillance cameras and radiation detectors, among other tools, according to The Verge.

“You’re never going to know where all of our cameras are,” Bloomberg told reporters gathered outside City Hall. “And that’s one of the ways you deter people; they just don’t know whether the person sitting next to you is somebody sitting there or a detective watching.”

Kelly said the Domain Awareness System, nicknamed “the dashboard,” would centralize already existing data captured on the between 3,500 and 6,000 cameras already placed throughout the city with new technology developed in conjunction with Microsoft. The project is expected to take three years to complete and cost between $40 and $50 million.

The commissioner previously said that at least 16 terror plots had been thwarted in New York City since the attack on September 11, 2001, asserting that such law enforcement success show that the surveillance tools put in place since then have been effective. His boast came in the face of the New York Civil Liberties Union and similar privacy advocates who have asked for more transparency on the issue of police monitoring.

“The privacy issue has really been taken off the table,” Kelly said Thursday. “I don’t think people are concerned about it. I think people accept it in a post-9/11 world.”

Mayor Bloomberg agreed, using the press conference to slam the “special interests” who have objected to his policies. The American Civil Liberties Union, for one, has criticized Bloomberg’s administration for installing thousands of cameras in Lower Manhattan in a surveillance initiative that has since expanded north through Midtown.

“The role of surveillance cameras played in identifying the suspects was absolutely essential to saving lives, both in Boston, and now we know here in New York City,” the mayor said Thursday. “We’ve made major investments in camera technology – notwithstanding the objections of some special interests."

“People are all worried about privacy,” he continued. “Yes, it is a concern, but given the balance you have between keeping people safe and total privacy, the direction the whole world is going is more cameras and better-quality cameras.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; bloominidiotberg; bullybloomberg; bullystate; tyranny
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1 posted on 04/27/2013 11:02:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Wow.
Big Brother Bloomberg. What a scary freaking animal that dude is.


2 posted on 04/27/2013 11:03:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Any day now he’s probably going to require burqas.


3 posted on 04/27/2013 11:05:05 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Red Steel

what a pr8ck. It is the terrorists who should be afraid not real Americans. Oh, by the way, jihadists are NOT real Americans and neither are those who support them


4 posted on 04/27/2013 11:05:23 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Red Steel
“And that’s one of the ways you deter people; they just don’t know whether the person sitting next to you is somebody sitting there or a detective watching.”

Jawohl - ze secret police are everywhere. Zere iss no escape.

5 posted on 04/27/2013 11:07:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Red Steel

1984? Big Brother is kinda short, isn’t he?


6 posted on 04/27/2013 11:08:57 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Billthedrill

Sic Semper Tyrannis!


7 posted on 04/27/2013 11:09:46 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: Red Steel

Not a Bloomberg fan. In this case, if the good guys know where the cameras are, then the bad guys will know too. As a law abiding citizen, I should have nothing to worry about.


8 posted on 04/27/2013 11:11:16 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: Red Steel
“You’re never going to know where all of our cameras are,”
9 posted on 04/27/2013 11:11:44 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Red Steel

Posters with the mayor’s face should be put up around the city.

“Bloomberg Is Watching You”


10 posted on 04/27/2013 11:11:51 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: Red Steel

Many people are more than willing to trade their freedoms for security. Even some FReepers are.


11 posted on 04/27/2013 11:13:57 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Red Steel

isn’t there a law against voyerism? oh wait- that only applies to the little people- perverts in washington and govenrment apparently are exempt from spyign on people


12 posted on 04/27/2013 11:14:18 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: o-n-money

Until the cameras get pics of things that no person should be able to get, like God’s eye views into cars, or building windows. And if hoping to match faces, will the computers’ word be taken for it, or will human scrutiny be required before looking up and arresting someone for being near a crime scene?


13 posted on 04/27/2013 11:15:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: o-n-money

As long as they don’t make a law you can’t abide.


14 posted on 04/27/2013 11:17:58 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Red Steel

15 posted on 04/27/2013 11:20:54 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Red Steel
New Yorkers will 'never know where our cameras are'

Shows your intent, you POS liberal - because it should read, TERRORIST 'will never know'.

16 posted on 04/27/2013 11:21:38 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Kartographer

You got that right!


17 posted on 04/27/2013 11:23:02 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Red Steel

” New Yorkers will ‘never know where our cameras are’”

Freedom of information act.

We’ll find out sooner or later.


18 posted on 04/27/2013 11:25:58 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: o-n-money

You’re being sarcastic, right? In Bloomberg’s world - a bad guy, as you say, is anyone Bloomberg says it is.


19 posted on 04/27/2013 11:26:16 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: Red Steel

20 posted on 04/27/2013 11:28:25 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Red Steel

Bloomberg and Kelley are creeps.

More like outright Nazi or Stazi.


21 posted on 04/27/2013 11:28:58 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: John W; o-n-money
As a law abiding citizen, I should have nothing to worry about..........As long as they don’t make a law you can’t abide.

Yeah, like having a big slurp in a hot cement city or not walking across the street where they say you should and those hundreds of laws that are on the books you may not be aware of.

22 posted on 04/27/2013 11:29:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: o-n-money
As a law abiding citizen, I should have nothing to worry about.

Until they decide to trump something up against you.

Not that that's ever happened before. noooooo.< /s > /s

23 posted on 04/27/2013 11:48:54 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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To: Red Steel

Nothing is as much a deterrent as not knowing who would be armed.


24 posted on 04/27/2013 11:50:03 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: wastedyears
lol. You betcha. Far more effective and far more cost effective! Pass a law that every adult over 21 is required to purchase a weapon and you watch the crime rate plummet.

"An armed society is a polite society."

25 posted on 04/27/2013 11:52:36 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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To: Red Steel

Dwarf Nazi wannabe! This guy is diabolical!


26 posted on 04/27/2013 11:57:13 PM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Red Steel

I can guess where the cameras WON’T be. In Goldman Sachs boardrooms, in the UN building, in places where Bloomberg likes to go, in mosques, etc...

They are only for the little people.


27 posted on 04/28/2013 12:08:48 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Billthedrill

Between the drones overhead and the cameras, EVERYONE should just walk around and stick their middle finger up at the sky every few minutes because you know SOMEONE is watching.


28 posted on 04/28/2013 12:15:21 AM PDT by Chainsawj
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To: Kartographer

LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!


29 posted on 04/28/2013 12:18:01 AM PDT by Chainsawj
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To: Red Steel

Bloomie just came up with a statement supporting Conceal Carry and he doesn’t even realize it.


30 posted on 04/28/2013 12:26:13 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Chainsawj

THEY LIVE, and we’re the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.

From my extensive Tagline collection, not available in Stores.


31 posted on 04/28/2013 12:33:29 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: JoeProBono; Salamander


32 posted on 04/28/2013 12:50:28 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Red Steel

“Mayor Bloomberg agreed, using the press conference to slam the “special interests” who have objected to his policies.”

To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.

Voltaire


33 posted on 04/28/2013 1:02:05 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Red Steel

Fahrenheit 451


34 posted on 04/28/2013 1:09:18 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Red Steel

Sounds like New Yorkers are the enemy.


35 posted on 04/28/2013 1:15:50 AM PDT by goldi
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To: goldi

Of course I’m the enemy, because I can still go to 7-11 and buy a Double Gulp of Sprite/7up/Sierra Mist.


36 posted on 04/28/2013 1:36:07 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Red Steel
Little fascist fantasies of a Police State. Glad to hear New York is doing so well financially that it can spend Fifty Million dollars on cameras to spy on its citizens.
37 posted on 04/28/2013 1:40:29 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Red Steel

Bloomberg’s one of those people you spend most of a conversation with, suppressing the urge to punch.


38 posted on 04/28/2013 2:09:52 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Red Steel

There’s already a TV show about this. It’s called PERSON OF INTEREST. And there are millions of cameras everywhere you go. They’re called cell phones. From the TV show “You’re being watched.”


39 posted on 04/28/2013 2:29:16 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Red Steel

When NYC and DC finally get a well deserved nuking I hope the cameras get lots of great footage.


40 posted on 04/28/2013 2:56:18 AM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Red Steel

Michael Bloomberg has gone from the mildly amusing nanny-statist with a slight authoritarian streak and an uncertain political provenance that New Yorkers seem to love, to an alarmingly full-blown fascist and a very arrogant example of one at that.

Shut him down, now. Do whatever you can to undermine his viability for national office. No presidential run, if he gets the mantle of being the bestower of free stuff, the fools will elect him.


41 posted on 04/28/2013 3:02:47 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: piasa

Or I am going to start wearing one to keep my privacy!

OMG! I hate this oppression!

Half this stuff we would not need if the progressive, liberals in government would just do their jobs AND immigration would enforce the existing laws!

Stuff like this is not even closing the barn door! Cameras will stop terrorsts? No they won’t...they didn’t stop the Boston bombers and they were photographed numerous times! Terrorists don’t care if they are on camera! In fact, they actually want you to see who they are!


42 posted on 04/28/2013 3:43:13 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: o-n-money
As a law abiding citizen, I should have nothing to worry about

famous last words

43 posted on 04/28/2013 3:48:19 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Red Steel

Why does anyone still live in NYC? I’d have fled for the nearest exit after Bloomberg showed his totalitarian spots.


44 posted on 04/28/2013 3:55:48 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: o-n-money
As a law abiding citizen, I should have nothing to worry about.

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with." Beginning on page 411 of the 35th Anniversary Edition of Atlas Shrugged

You Commit Three Felonies a Day

45 posted on 04/28/2013 3:57:48 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: Red Steel

Bloomberg: New Yorkers will ‘never know where our cameras are’

I already understood that Bloomberg was an idiot. Now I know he is stupid also. People hack into the Department of Defense and this asswad thinks he can hide cameras in New York City?


46 posted on 04/28/2013 3:58:22 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Red Steel

“The privacy issue has really been taken off the table,” Kelly said Thursday. “I don’t think people are concerned about it. I think people accept it in a post-9/11 world.”

Okay. So if news reporters/camera folks start following you around 24 hours a day recording everyone you meet and everywhere you go, you have no problem with that Mr Kelly?


47 posted on 04/28/2013 4:02:13 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Red Steel

How will anyone know if they are placed in reasonable places, if the only people who know where they are, are the thugs in govt?


48 posted on 04/28/2013 4:15:51 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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If they abuse the Fourth Amendment - then your fall back is the Second Amendment!

Capish?


49 posted on 04/28/2013 4:16:57 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Red Steel

I just had an interesting thought. The most obvious “unintended consequence” to a surveillance state is the advent of the Head to toe cloak aka burqa and a mask. ALL IDENTICAL,then what will they do with their cameras if everyone on the street looks the same, same color, same style, same mask?

And I won’t consider it surrender to Islam, I’ll consider it a Passive-Aggressive battle against overweening authority.


50 posted on 04/28/2013 4:22:40 AM PDT by The Working Man
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