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Online sales tax lobbyist: Constitution ’18th-century document,’ holding industry back
The Daily Caller ^ | 4/26/2013 | Betsi Fores

Posted on 04/26/2013 5:16:06 PM PDT by markomalley

As the debate over the merits of an online sales tax policy that would allow states to collect tax from vendors outside their state boundaries brews, a lobbyist for the National Retail Federation, a group supporting the proposed legislation, dismissed the United States Constitution as an “18th-century document.”

“The industry is evolving very rapidly, and the law today is a 20th-century interpretation of an 18th-century document that is holding back the entire retail industry as it adapts to 21st-century consumer preferences and demand,” David French, senior vice president for government affairs at the NRF, said in a statement provided to the Wall Street Journal.

The constitutional context of the online sales tax surrounds the “commerce clause” in Section 8 of Article I, which gives Congress the authority “to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.” This power has traditionally been interpreted to mean that states cannot tax outside their borders. The Quill v. North Dakota Supreme Court ruling determined that a business was required to have a physical presence in a state in order for the state to collect sales tax.

The pending legislation would undo this and allow states the authority to require businesses to collect and remit sales tax at the time of purchase if the buyer is in the state.

Opponents of the bill, titled the Marketplace Fairness Act, call the move a tax grab by states and argue it would vastly expand states’ taxing authority. They site the nearly 9,600 tax jurisdictions retailers would have to comply with under the new law.

RedState’s Erick Ericson says the bill is designed to favor “massive corporations like Wal-Mart who want to hurt small businesses that have become successfully competitive against big retailers.” Americans for Tax Reform founder Grover Norquist told The Daily Caller recently that the bill’s real purpose is to allow “loser states…to extend their tax rates into other states that have done a better job on taxation.”

Proponents meanwhile, contend the bill is about states’ rights.

“This legislation boils down to two words: states’ rights. We ought to support states’ rights by letting Tennessee and other states decide whether they want to collect taxes that are already owed, and how to treat businesses fairly in the marketplace,” Tennessee Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander, who has signed on as a co-sponsor, said on the Senate floor Wednesday.

The corporate giants in support of the bill include big-box chains like Best Buy and Wal-Mart, which currently exist in every state and thus already collect sales tax for online purchases, as well as Amazon, which recently has expanded its locations into new states to provide faster delivery for customers. Amazon previously opposed any kind of internet sales tax legislation.

Online marketplaces like eBay and Etsy, meanwhile, oppose the legislation because retailers who use their sites and services would be directly affected.

There is an exemption for small online retailers making less than $1 million a year.

However, opponents point out that this is hardly an exemption. Small businesses defined by the Internal Revenue Service is a business that makes $30 million in revenue or less and the Small Business Administration classifies small businesses as earning less than $20 million.

The Senate is scheduled to vote for the bill on May 6.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: constitution; davidfrench; internetsalestax; retailindustry; talkingpoint

1 posted on 04/26/2013 5:16:06 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

nope, not the problem. not adhering to it is the problem.


2 posted on 04/26/2013 5:40:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: markomalley

Next up will be flea markets, garage sales and swap meets
It’s all about fairness after all.


3 posted on 04/26/2013 6:38:51 PM PDT by funfan
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To: markomalley

Doing this will result in a National Sales Tax, mark my words...


4 posted on 04/26/2013 6:54:02 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: markomalley
"...a lobbyist for the National Retail Federation, a group supporting the proposed legislation, dismissed the United States Constitution as an '18th-century document.'

'The industry is evolving very rapidly, and the law today is a 20th-century interpretation of an 18th-century document that is holding back the entire retail industry...'
"

Those retailers are the ones holding industry back. In their efforts to outlaw competition through every level of government (especially local), they've outlawed real production.


5 posted on 04/26/2013 6:55:11 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Axenolith

Doing this will result in a National Sales Tax, mark my words...

IN ADDITION TO INCOME TAX, not replacing it...


6 posted on 04/26/2013 6:59:36 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Axenolith
"Doing this will result in a National Sales Tax, mark my words..."

Yes. Subgroups of both political parties are pushing for the national sales tax, an abolition of income taxes for government-linked, global corporations and skyrocketing personal property taxes (slavery).


7 posted on 04/26/2013 7:07:08 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: markomalley

Retailing is not industry. Real industry is manufacturing. The retailers are shipping products not made in the USA, that is the problem.


8 posted on 04/26/2013 7:07:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: markomalley
This is not from Section 8, but please tell me what you think of it in regards to the topic.

Article I, Section 9 [Excerpt]:
"No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any state.

No preference shall be given by any regulation of commerce or revenue to the ports of one state over those of another: nor shall vessels bound to, or from, one state, be obliged to enter, clear or pay duties in another.
"

[...]

Section 10. [Excerpt]:
No state shall, without the consent of the Congress, lay any imposts or duties on imports or exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection laws: and the net produce of all duties and imposts, laid by any state on imports or exports, shall be for the use of the treasury of the United States; and all such laws shall be subject to the revision and control of the Congress.



9 posted on 04/26/2013 8:01:03 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: markomalley
And because we're not discussing products being imported or exported to or from our country (USA),...

Article I, Section 9 [Excerpt]:
"No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any state.

No preference shall be given by any regulation of commerce or revenue to the ports of one state over those of another:"

Might they be aiming for a national sales tax, if a law for state sales taxes on out-of-state products won't pass the constitutional test?


10 posted on 04/26/2013 8:13:01 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: funfan

Just wait until they tax the work you do for yourself.


11 posted on 04/26/2013 9:21:11 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GraceG

Exactly...

The first rule of politics should be “If it benefits the government or increases their revenue in ANY way, vote NO! on it...”

The government will craft legislation to “Facilitate the ending of scary under-the-bed monsters from runneling their claws through the intestines of small children” if it means they can get a fee or a tax levy out of it... And they will do so knowing full well that there ARE NO SCARY UNDER-THE-BED MONSTERS!


12 posted on 04/27/2013 2:03:50 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: familyop

The arguement will be that the collection of state sales taxes by each state for every other one will be to onerous and will be more easily facilitated if the FEDs just collect the tax and reapportion it.


13 posted on 04/27/2013 2:06:24 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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