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Report: Federal Judge Compromised Investigation By Prematurely Mirandizing Tsarnaev
breitbart.com/Big-Government ^ | 4-25-2013 | John Nolte

Posted on 04/25/2013 5:50:27 AM PDT by servo1969

Thanks to the "Public Safety Exception" to Miranda (which was created in 1980), the government is not forced to choose between treating a suspect as an enemy combatant or immediately allowing said suspect to hide behind an attorney and the right to remain silent. In extraordinary circumstances, when a suspect is believed to be part of a broader conspiracy that might result in the loss of innocent life, authorities have 48 hours to question the suspect before mirandizing him.

Dzokhar Tsarnaev, the man suspected of being a co-conspirator in the Boston Marathon bombings, was mirandized after only 16 hours of questioning. According to a Fox News, FBI officials were "stunned" when federal District Court Judge Marianne Bowler arrived at the hospital and read Tsnarnaev his rights. Sources told Fox News that this premature action might have hurt the investigation.

Apparently, prior to Judge Bowler reading him his rights, Tsarnaev was cooperating with investigators. The arrival of public defenders and the Justice Department, though, compromised the interrogation and now the belief is that "valuable intelligence may have been sacrificed as a result."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bbmiranda; bomber; boston; bowler; dzokhar; jaharmiranda; judge; marathon; marianne; mariannebowler; miranda; tsarnaev
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She did as she was instructed.
1 posted on 04/25/2013 5:50:27 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

She’s a braindead liberal first and a judge second.

Pray for America to Wake Up


2 posted on 04/25/2013 5:52:59 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: servo1969

Holder sent in his shock troops.

How does he qualify for a public defender? He been living the life of the rich and famous. Attending some of the most expensive schools in the nation, fancy cars, party, party, party.


3 posted on 04/25/2013 5:56:59 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: servo1969

So the Judge just shows up at the hospital?? Who sent her or was she “self radicalized?” We need an investigation within the investigation. The FBI should be checking her out, as well.


4 posted on 04/25/2013 5:57:12 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: servo1969
She did as she was instructed.

Precisely!

IMHO it's a case of, "Quick, quick! We've got to shut him up."

Of course the interesting question is WHY?

5 posted on 04/25/2013 5:58:58 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Truth29

no doubt she has a homosexual lover on one side and one from AlQaida on the other.


6 posted on 04/25/2013 6:00:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: servo1969

Said it on the other thread, I’ll just repeat myself.

“I’ll just say one thing.

Communists in our top tier government ARE really pushing hard for CW II.”


7 posted on 04/25/2013 6:03:40 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: servo1969

8 posted on 04/25/2013 6:04:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sir Napsalot

IF people don’t feel the government can protect them, they WILL meter out their own justice.

Ominous dark clouds ahead.


9 posted on 04/25/2013 6:05:56 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: servo1969

So the White Hut and al Qaeda reached out and
SELECTED a judge.

How special is that?


10 posted on 04/25/2013 6:06:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: servo1969; maggief; STARWISE; onyx; SE Mom; Nachum; crosslink; ConservativeMan55; ...

Ping to another Holder outrage!!

Obama and Holder sent that judge from the DOJ.

Please help spread the word!


11 posted on 04/25/2013 6:07:21 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: servo1969

One Word Sabotage


12 posted on 04/25/2013 6:12:54 AM PDT by STD (One day closer to street justice)
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To: Diogenesis; All

Transcript of bedside hearing:

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/690732/transcript-for-dzhokhar-tsarnaevs-bedside-hearing.txt


13 posted on 04/25/2013 6:14:18 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: servo1969

Why did they let this bitch in? Funny how Obama ignores seperation of powers for (non-)recess appointments and amnesty, but respects it for compromising terrorism investigations.


14 posted on 04/25/2013 6:14:43 AM PDT by montag813
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To: penelopesire

How did they fit all of these people in the romm LOL.

Jennifer Daskal she is the ring leader

The current Justice Department employees who previously represented Guantánamo detainees or terrorism suspects are:
•Tony West, the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division.
•Jonathan Cedarbaum, of the Office of Legal Counsel.
•Eric Columbus, senior counsel in the Office of the Deputy Attorney General.
•Karl Thompson, of the Office of Legal Counsel.
•Joseph Guerra, Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General.
•Tali Farhadian, an official in the Office of the Attorney General.
•Beth Brinkmann, Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Civil Division

http://www.mainjustice.com/tag/jennifer-daskal/

http://www.dcjunkies.com/archive/index.php/t-13581.html


15 posted on 04/25/2013 6:17:12 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: bray

Pray for America to Wake Up
*******
The Wake Up won’t come out of any sudden moral awakening or political epiphany; it will be in the form a calamity. Most likely an economic collapse. But other possibilities abound.


16 posted on 04/25/2013 6:17:47 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: upchuck

Fingers start pointing in embarrassing directions when a 19 yr old kid who knows too much keeps talking.


17 posted on 04/25/2013 6:18:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: penelopesire

A Magistrate judge is NOT an Article III judge.

This is unConstitutional as well as obstruction of justice.


18 posted on 04/25/2013 6:18:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“Communists in our top tier government ARE really pushing hard for CW II.””


While I would not start it, I for one would welcome it. Maybe we could purge ourselves once and for all of the communist enemy within (taking all Muslims along).

I agree they keep pushing and pushing hoping Real Americans will be the first to fire back. They know we have a greater respect for the law than the left. Eventually the left will have to fire the first shot and I think most of us can site numerous occasions where they already have and we did not respond. Time will come when we must respond. I think we at at that time.


19 posted on 04/25/2013 6:20:55 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: servo1969

Is this traitor to the American people judge protected from telling us who sent her?

If not, then what agency must tell us they sent her?

We must know the source before they bury it like they have done with the 212.3B Saudi rag head they first arrested.


20 posted on 04/25/2013 6:23:51 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Wurlitzer
NOBODY wants to see a fight break out amongst us.

I just think peaceful addressing our grievances only accomplish so much. More and more people wake up to an ever more tyrannical government, then one day they will rebel.

21 posted on 04/25/2013 6:28:53 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Diogenesis; crosslink

Her picture here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48197575@N04/5793852251/


22 posted on 04/25/2013 6:29:36 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Diogenesis

Can you explain more please? Would be good reading for those of us who do not know why this matters. Thanks.


23 posted on 04/25/2013 6:31:04 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

The judge is a traitorous subhuman who hates America. Just who sent her to the hospital to read this traitor his “rights”? Isn’t her action a bit odd? Is their no end to what these communists running this administration will go? Hopefully, they will ALL be brought to justice.


24 posted on 04/25/2013 6:34:23 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: servo1969

wonderful that Obama instructed Eric Holder to cut off the intelligence gathering. Obama is protected again by his orders.


25 posted on 04/25/2013 6:36:32 AM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: servo1969

Ya know, I’m getting a little tired of this Mirandizing debate.

As an American citizen, I KNOW what my rights are. They don’t have to be read to me.

Any citizen who whines about not being read his bed-time story - Miranda - deserves whatever comes their way.

You get arrested, you keep your mouth shut until you have legal counsel. Period.


26 posted on 04/25/2013 6:37:35 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: servo1969

Ooooooo... a judge.


27 posted on 04/25/2013 6:41:21 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: penelopesire

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/04/23/meet-boston-bombing-suspects-defense-team

Meet the Boston bombing suspect’s defense team


28 posted on 04/25/2013 6:44:14 AM PDT by maggief
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To: servo1969

http://www.mad.uscourts.gov/boston/bowler.htm


29 posted on 04/25/2013 6:50:33 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: maggief

Gads.....


30 posted on 04/25/2013 6:51:50 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: maggief

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3012190/posts

Article on Bomber’s ‘All Star Defense Team’

Thanks Obama....(eye roll)


31 posted on 04/25/2013 6:54:47 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: servo1969

Why does the article refer to her as District Court when she is Magistrate?
IIRC they aren’t the same thing.


32 posted on 04/25/2013 6:58:54 AM PDT by steve8714 (Any homosexual man can marry any woman he wants. Just like any normal man.)
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To: penelopesire

I think it is better to Mirandize than to risk exclusion of his testimony later, if this was challenged.


33 posted on 04/25/2013 7:01:33 AM PDT by alamogal
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To: penelopesire; crosslink

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/24/us-usa-explosions-boston-scenarios-idUSBRE93N1F620130424

Boston Marathon, where two bombs went off killing three people and wounding 264, included preparation for such an emergency, a top Massachusetts public safety official said on Wednesday.

“We spend months planning for the marathon. We did a tabletop exercise the week before that included a bombing scenario in it,” Kurt Schwartz, the state’s undersecretary for homeland security, told a panel at Harvard University.

(snip)

http://www.ready.gov/business/testing/exercises

There are different types of exercises that can be used to evaluate program plans, procedures and capabilities.

Walkthroughs, workshops or orientation seminars
Tabletop exercises
Functional exercises
Full-scale exercises
...
Tabletop exercises are discussion-based sessions where team members meet in an informal, classroom setting to discuss their roles during an emergency and their responses to a particular emergency situation. A facilitator guides participants through a discussion of one or more scenarios. The duration of a tabletop exercise depends on the audience, the topic being exercised and the exercise objectives. Many tabletop exercises can be conducted in a few hours, so they are cost-effective tools to validate plans and capabilities.

http://www.safecomprogram.gov/SiteCollectionDocuments/CommunicationsSpecificTabletopExerciseMethodology.pdf

Communications-Specific Tabletop Exercise Methodology


34 posted on 04/25/2013 7:07:20 AM PDT by maggief
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To: alamogal

Nothing that he said under the safety rule could be used anyway. It is strictly used for determining other threats..the way I understand it. They say they have plenty to convict him but with this bunch of left wing hacks at DOJ...it is doubtful.


35 posted on 04/25/2013 7:08:59 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: hal ogen
"Hopefully, they will ALL be brought to justice".

Just who will do that? There is nobody who is going to step up. These Communists will continue to shred the Constitution and nobody will stop them.

36 posted on 04/25/2013 7:19:45 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: Travis McGee

Hahaha...great signs brother.....if only people would open their eyes.


37 posted on 04/25/2013 7:33:25 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: servo1969

‘compromised investigations’ ?

Just an excuse for the ‘investigators’.

The truth is that since he was technically an American Citizen, that NOT MIRANDIZING him would set a precedent. With this administration, that is not a good idea.

This ‘judge’ may have been doing more to protect OUR rights, than Tsarnaev’s.


38 posted on 04/25/2013 7:35:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: servo1969
 photo Ukraine-judges-Boston_zps20f9b7c1.jpg
39 posted on 04/25/2013 7:49:50 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: servo1969

That’s her pictured in the center standing under the plaque


40 posted on 04/25/2013 7:51:09 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: servo1969

Is it normal for judges to personally deliver Miranda rights and bring public defenders with them?

Strange.


41 posted on 04/25/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: Sir Napsalot
Communists in our top tier government ARE really pushing hard for CW II.”

You say that like that would be a bad thing.

42 posted on 04/25/2013 7:55:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: servo1969
She's also active in the U.S. Consulate with partnership to UAE Institute of Training and Judicial Studies in Sharjah.  photo judicial_review2_zps25824763.jpg http://dubai.usconsulate.gov/judicial_exchange.html
43 posted on 04/25/2013 8:01:04 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: servo1969
Cairo: American Judge Marianne Bowler arrived on the Egyptian plane coming from the United States to attend the issue of foreign funding. http://feelnor3.blogspot.com/2012/03/blog-post_4888.html  photo 2012-634671484773029206-302_zpsebc084a2.jpg
44 posted on 04/25/2013 8:10:12 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: servo1969
If the FBI & other officials at the hospital had any balls, they should have simply blocked her from entering the room. That's what they would have done if the bomber was a so-called "Christian right-wing conservative".

My other thought is this.... Well, liberal dumb-ass Boston Massachusetts, you will now see liberal political correctness & fawning & pandering to muzzies played out to its' maximum extreme. Here you have a terrorist muzlim bomber who's killed 3 people & maimed & injured over 170 others, and the politically correct liberal Gestapo will do everything possible to protect this muzlim terrorist bastard with full rights & taxpayer money. Way to go, you liberal retards!!!

45 posted on 04/25/2013 8:21:30 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: servo1969
I found this article from the Dubai Consulate Web page to be informative about Judge Bowler:

U.S.-UAE Judicial Exchange

March 8-10, 2011

The Consulate General, in association with the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office, sponsored 3 U.S. federal judges for a series of workshops in the UAE. Judge Ronald Lew of the Central District of California, Judge Joanna Seybert of the Eastern District of New York, and Marianne Bowler of the District of Massachusetts. During their time in the UAE, the judges helped conduct a legal seminar on intellectual property rights at the UAE Institute of Training and Judicial Studies in Sharjah.

The judges also visited the DIFC Courts and then participated in a judicial roundtable with the Dubai Courts, where they were joined by Consul General Justin Siberell. The roundtable consisted of a mutually-rewarding exchange of judicial best practices and information about the respective legal systems of both nations. The U.S. judges were particularly impressed by Dubai Courts’ innovative use of technology and world-renowned case management system.

46 posted on 04/25/2013 8:36:44 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: penelopesire

Thank you penelopesire for the ping. Not sure if I feel more like crying or laughing. So out of control. I have much to read.


47 posted on 04/25/2013 8:38:32 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: alamogal
I think it is better to Mirandize than to risk exclusion of his testimony later, if this was challenged.

Alan Dershowitz agrees...

Dershowitz insisted that authorities would come to “regret” not reading Tsarnaev his Miranda rights, partly because there was never any basis for the public safety exception, but, more significantly, because they may have “blown” their chances of getting a death penalty conviction. Why? Because they’ll need to be terrorist intentions, but the information they get may not be admissible in court.

Link

This whole thing is confusing, to say the least.

48 posted on 04/25/2013 8:41:45 AM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: servo1969

This was a ticking clock example.

This was probably an antideathpenalty judge who did not want the defendant giving away negotiating points.

Never mind rules of evidence would ultimatly apply.

Perhaps now the judge should recuse as being biased. Both the appointed magistrate (not for life) and/or supervising judge (life appointment)


49 posted on 04/25/2013 8:42:09 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lonevoice; Diogenesis

“A Magistrate judge is NOT an Article III judge. This is unConstitutional as well as an obstruction of justice.”

God save our country.


50 posted on 04/25/2013 8:46:15 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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