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GOP Does Not Have A Hispanic Problem
Woldnet Daily ^ | April 20, 2013 | Peter Brimelow

Posted on 04/21/2013 12:32:54 PM PDT by rmlew

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California = 37% Hispanic Texas = 37% Hispanic Florida = 22% Hispanic Arizona = 29% Hispanic

Umm....probably half those numbers are illegals.

About all they do now is guarantee a Mexican Congressman from a few court-ordered gerrymandered districts.

If you deported all the illegals, the actual "hispanic" voting fractions would be tiny.

21 posted on 04/21/2013 2:14:36 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks rmlew.

Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
LATimes.com | March 19, 2013 | Michael A. Memoli
Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3010596/posts


22 posted on 04/21/2013 2:56:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: upbeat5

>>Here’s a an idea! Why doesn’t the GOP take the moral high ground on all issues.

Two reasons:

1) It takes courage.

2) The GOP doesn’t disagree with the Democrats on anything substantive. They only disagree on methods of implementation.


23 posted on 04/21/2013 2:56:11 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: rmlew; Nachum; seekthetruth; celtic gal; Doogle; SouthTexas; Forty-Niner; vette6387; mazda77; ...

In my opinion, the GOP has a spineless, gutless problem starting with stopping the massive voter fraud being perpetrated against GOP candidates. Just ask Col. West. Are there any investigations into the last voter fraud fiasco??? If so, enlighten all of us because we’re being destroyed, IMO, because of the results. Then we can list all the other issues the GOP can’t deal with because they’re out looking for their nads.


24 posted on 04/21/2013 3:02:00 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: zeestephen

If you look real close, you’ll see it doesn’t make any difference how they vote.

Big Money controls the system. Voting is irrelevant.

What I note about the Japanese is a lack of crime, net taxes, and I really like a good bento for my lunch.

They make excellent neighbors.


25 posted on 04/21/2013 3:16:30 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9
I’m married to a naturalized Cuban.

I heard a few stories directly from Cubans (I am sure that you have heard many more). They have seen communism up front and personal. If the illegal aliens were largely made up of people like them, then the discussion of "immigration reform" would not be a discussion.

The south-of-the-border (SOTB) illegals have grown up with socialism and corruption. To grant amnesty to them would give the Dem party a dominance that the leadership desires but a swarming criminal element that even the Dem party could not tame. The overwhelming attitude (yes I generalize) of the SOTB crowd has no love or appreciation of America. The Cuban immigrants, largely, on the other had do. understand America

26 posted on 04/21/2013 3:23:05 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Mexicans are here for the same reason the 1%’ers want them here: money. The same goes for most Cubans, Indians, Irish, etc. etc.

In my f-i-law’s case, it wasn’t so much money as trying to evade a Communist bullet in his head. The Che’ists had already murdered his father and two of his uncles.

BTW, he was the first of his family to arrive here, had 26 cents American in his pocket, and eventually sold the 500-person business he subsequently built, a few years ago. He’s annoying, like most Cubans, but formidable.

Last note: Democrat or Republican makes no difference. What counts to the Big Money is profit. American peasants are just beginning to wake up to that reality, I can see.


27 posted on 04/21/2013 3:38:57 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: rmlew
No, GOP has a conservative/messaging problem.

Gun legislation and comprehensive immigration reform are the LAST things GOP should be promoting.

28 posted on 04/21/2013 3:44:28 PM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Amen to that, Ex!



"Riamh nár dhruid ó sbairn lann!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

29 posted on 04/21/2013 4:16:05 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

You are totally correct, Ex-Texas Redhead. The GOP leadership consists of a bunch of elitist, gutless, old-moneyed WASP (Tom Kean Senior, Romney, the Bushes) types and their philosophical allies whose sole interest is augmenting their fiscal inheritance and preserving it from taxation while being allowed to leverage their investment in a world market aided by a globalist economy.

In order to advance and promote that agenda they are willing to sell everything else down the river like our National Identity, our National Internal Security, our cultural identity and our constitutional rights.

In a sense they are far worse than the opposition Democrats who think essentially the same way this bunch does, but is more open about it. Further this clique of elitists who govern the GOP, by their very very presence and control of the only large opposition party prevent a truly viable opposition from staking out a real alternative to the Democrats. AND THAT, after all, may be what these creeps are after in the first place.


30 posted on 04/21/2013 6:37:16 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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Which is why the GOP needs to work on Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota. The good news is we have reality on our side and we can’t borrow 44% of our spending forever.


31 posted on 04/21/2013 7:30:16 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: warchild9
Hey - Who you callin' geriatric, warchild9?

Least I don't blayme speling misteaks on my 'puter.

'Boobgey' is pretty funny, though ...................................................................................................... FRegards

32 posted on 04/21/2013 8:29:04 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: rmlew
Re: “We can get non-Cuban Hispanic votes in the long run as they assimilate.”

Disagree.

The Pew Hispanic Center did the largest Hispanic voter survey ever in 2012.

First generation Hispanics vote 80% Democrat.

Fourth generation Hispanics vote 60% Democrat.

33 posted on 04/21/2013 11:51:59 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: x

x,

Looks like you used Census Bureau data for your numbers.

One problem.

Those numbers include Hispanics with work visas, Green Cards, and illegals.

The number of Hispanics who are citizens, registered to vote, and in fact do vote, bring those numbers down at least by 35%.

I agree those numbers are moving up, and Hispanic voter turn out is also moving up.

At the same time, 1 million new Hispanics each year is NOT inevitable.

We are a sovereign nation, and we can reduce Hispanic and other Third World immigration to ZERO if we have the political will.


34 posted on 04/22/2013 12:06:58 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: warchild9

You could have defended Cubans without being a dick

Problem is today younger Cubans vote majority democrat enough to push Cuban exit polls to Obama last election

The ones who fled tyranny are dying off

I was married to a Latino....Brazil

They vote left too

Nearly all so called minorities do

Enterprising and successful or not

Its the lure of victim hood and the gringo blame game

Coral Gables 88-94


35 posted on 04/22/2013 12:21:22 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: zeestephen; Pelham

I’ve been preaching this message here for 13 years....been banned over it

Frankly surprised the race baiters and south bashers haven’t screamed for a mod to deep six a Brimelow piece

Time was anything remotely White Rabbit was ....poof


36 posted on 04/22/2013 12:25:14 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Oatka

That guy was full of it

Cuba and Argentina. WERE most snotty....top of heap....whitest too

Ecuador....not much

Bottom tier......Puerto Rico and Dom Rep...Nicaragua maybe....Honduras

Mexico was thought of as north American Latino....cowboyish

My opinion....all the good Cubans came here before 1980....Cuba is now tropical Detroit

My two bits....Colombia is top dawg....hardy patriotic folks....little bit of everything .....lotsa issues but wonderful heritage

Chile second runner up

Guatemala most exotic

The most Indian or black Hispanic nations....the most problems.....nothing new there

I have visited....lived in...worked....in every country south of Key West or McAllen


37 posted on 04/22/2013 12:35:59 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy

My experience there was that those from Ecuador bragged that their Spanish was the closest to Castillian, whereas the others were “dirty” with words picked up from the local tribes, with Mexico being the worst.

I had high school Spanish and couldn’t be understood in pre-Castro Cuba (”Oh, Hablan Castilliano” they’d say, and walk away.)

In some ways it reminded me of the snobbish attitudes against regional dialects in this country.

Agree with you on the pre-1980 Cubans. Mostly middle class that were an asset to this country.


38 posted on 04/22/2013 8:22:39 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: wardaddy

Actually he had to behave like what he is...


39 posted on 04/22/2013 11:34:38 PM PDT by Pelham (Without Deportation you have De Facto Amnesty.)
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To: Pelham

Lol...I take it you are acquainted


40 posted on 04/23/2013 1:13:25 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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