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BREAKING: NBC Reporting that Suspect #2 has been Mirandized by the FBI
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Posted on 04/19/2013 7:03:31 PM PDT by Perdogg

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To: Jim Noble
I want as much information, as fast as possible, for use not by courts in a trial but by US and Russian special forces to prosecute in Pakistan and Chechnya (and maybe Saudi Arabia)...

...We need to find, fix, and kill his chain of command, and most of them are not here...

You won't get any complaints from me. The course of action you propose is the entire reason 1st SFOD-D ("Delta Force") was created.

201 posted on 04/20/2013 5:06:41 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Jim Noble

what’s the latest on this?? The can only ask limited questions under the safety exemption.

If this kid lives and he hasn’t been mirandized yet and they have questioned him this will be headed for SCOTUS.

I can imagine some overzealous you killed cops kind of guy overstepping their bounds.

202 posted on 04/20/2013 5:08:58 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: JohnBovenmyer

I don’t know that he has met any of the elements of treason, but perhaps the investigation will reveal something. The spy case that I was involved with was certainly treason, but that charge was never brought, only espionage. In fact, that dirtbag was tried in a German court, not a U.S. court.

A U.S. citizen can become an enemy combatant, but he would need to join a military or insurgent group that is an enemy of the U.S. Probably doesn’t apply here.

This guy will soon have one of the Left’s best lawyers who will go after any misstep by LE.

203 posted on 04/20/2013 5:20:58 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Perdogg

With or without Miranda, this terrorist doesn’t have to say one word and he know that much.

204 posted on 04/20/2013 5:35:24 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 101stAirborneVet
Giving him Miranda just increases the likelihood that he'll lawyer up...

They're not interested in asking him questions about HIS crimes. They already have enough on him to convict and sentence him to death.

They want to find out what he knows about all the OTHER people involved, in exchange for a plea bargain of life in a pleasant prison.

205 posted on 04/20/2013 5:38:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
When these terrorists see the disarray caused by two young snot nosed kids, they will hit us again... This was a test run.

Yep. Consider all the havoc and expense that a single team of jihadis caused in Boston.

Now consider the chaos that can be caused by a thousand teams.

206 posted on 04/20/2013 5:40:50 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I know.

207 posted on 04/20/2013 5:41:45 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: RummyChick
If this kid lives and he hasn’t been mirandized yet and they have questioned him this will be headed for SCOTUS

It's only a case for SCOTUS if his own statements are used to convict him of a crime.

There's plenty of evidence to convict him if he never says a word, and if he makes statements that are used to fly drones to Turdistan and kill his buddies, well, çest la guerre.

208 posted on 04/20/2013 5:50:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Thanks for the kind words.

My point anyway is somewhat theoretical - there is so much evidence already in possession against this guy that the miranda point we are discussing probably is not significant one way or another.

This is a slam dunk case from an evidence point of view. I don’t see anything significant right now that a defense lawyer has to work with - unless the cops or prosecutors foolishly screw up and hand them something to work with, and I would hate to see that.

Because of the overwhelming nature of the evidence, and assuming no screw-ups on our side, there should be no serious chance of this going to trial. The negotiating between the two legal sides should quickly arrive at negotiating over penalty in exchange for cooperation.

Of course if Holder won’t seek the death penalty, that weakens the government negotiating position. On the other hand, if this guy is a true believer, he may WANT to be put to death by the US and go collect his virgins, so it depends. And in that case, he’s certainly not going to cooperate and tell what he knows about other members of the terrorist cell or network.

209 posted on 04/20/2013 6:33:46 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

I just heard the most amazing thing on Fox News from Allison Camerada and Brian Kilmede, neither one the brighest bulb on the porch. They both said that the surviving bomber had not yet been granted his right to silence via the Miranda warning. Allison said, “he doesn’t have a right to silence”.

Well, Allison, he does. The government does not grant this right, you have it and can hide behind it in criminal proceedings. If this guy were to recover and start talking, any evidence from that discussion would be challenged in court. The public safety exception that is being discussed may or may not apply as determined at trial. That seems to be a risk not worth taking. This guy is both smart and educated and certainly knows his rights, so informing him of those rights does not seem to pose a great risk.

His medical condition may be the real reason for the delay, although if they have already been read, then the delay isn’t real. The ignorance of the Fox News folks is rather remarkable.

210 posted on 04/20/2013 7:01:36 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Wow, you sound like you were important. All those big important decisions that us mere serfs could never hope to understand.

211 posted on 04/20/2013 7:10:58 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Thorliveshere

Waterboarded? Now that would be too easy. I was thinkng more along the lines of nonstop Jonas Brothers and reading the entire ObamaCare act.

Either that or shove redhot needles into his scrotum until he talks about higher-ups that trained him and mentored him. Every name that he gives, kill that person after getting 10 more names from them. And so on and so on...

Kill them by public hanging and pick from a poll of wounded soldiers or deceased soldiers families as to who gets to slip the rope around their necks.

One condition... the wounded soldier or family member must spit in the face of the Muzzie right before sliding the cover over their heads. Thats to ensure that the last thing these Muslim’s eyes ever see is an American spitting in their face.

212 posted on 04/20/2013 7:16:16 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: Perdogg; Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...

Thanks Perdogg.

213 posted on 04/20/2013 7:16:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: bigdaddy45
Wow, you sound like you were important

You're like Humphrey Bogart, you were misinformed.

214 posted on 04/20/2013 7:22:04 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Biggirl
Well he is a citizen, he took his oath to become a citizen and in irony, on September 11th last year.

added to the irony of the COEXIST sticker on the 'jacked car..

215 posted on 04/20/2013 7:45:06 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: dfwgator

Halal meals, a cell to himself, an Internet connection and DirecTV with Al Jazzera..

216 posted on 04/20/2013 7:46:43 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: okie01

Thanks for posting your comments.

During WWII, an uncle by marriage and a US citizen and vet of WWI with German parents, who had become American Citizens, turned his two uncles in for being active Nazis in America. They were supposedly American citizens.

His uncles were interrogated by the FBI and arrested for having Nazi literature in their homes and for holding pro Nazi Bundt meetings.

The uncles were put into a high security prison until the end of WWII. Then, they were sent back to Germany. I don’t remember anyone talking about them after that.

Their German wives, who had become American citizens were put under custody in a former mental institution and were allowed to have visitors. After WWII was over, they stayed in America until they died.

U.S. citizen arrested on U.S. soil had better get due process.
Unless he has committed a terrorist act in service to a foreign power.

In which case his ass is grass. Literally. And legally.

Dzhokhar Tsaraev acted as a traitor and committed a terrorist act against the country and thereby sacrificed all rights of citizenship. Instead, he qualifies as an “enemy combatant” — a status which doesn’t even qualify for protection under the Geneva Convention.

Tsaraev belongs in a military court — where he would be sentenced to death.

See Ex parte Quinn (1942).

217 posted on 04/20/2013 8:16:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm afraid to go visit any American college because of all the foreign students with bombs.)
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To: envisio

Blindfold him with a large slice of bacon.

218 posted on 04/20/2013 8:19:59 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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219 posted on 04/20/2013 8:32:29 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; Southack

It also occured to me this morning that in the more specific case of spillover from Chechnya, why would terrorists from Chechnya or Dagestan (etc.) fear U.S. drone strikes?

220 posted on 04/20/2013 9:54:19 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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