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Margaret Thatcher funeral: thousands line streets to witness final journey
The Guardian ^ | 04/17/2013 | Caroline Davies

Posted on 04/17/2013 10:04:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Lady Thatcher, Britain's first female prime minister, was borne to St Paul's Cathedral for a ceremonial funeral as thousands lined central London's streets to witness her final journey.

With full military honours, the coffin bearing the body of one of Britain's most divisive politicians of modern times was escorted by members of all three armed forces to a service before a congregation of 2,300 from across the globe and led by the Queen.

Although not officially a state funeral, as accorded to Sir Winston Churchill, the event was conducted with a level of pomp and ceremony not witnessed in London since the death of the Queen Mother in 2002.

Her children, Sir Mark Thatcher and his twin sister Carol, and her American grandchildren, Michael and Amanda, listened as the bishop of London, acknowledging the bitter debate over her legacy, said this was not the time or place for such matters.

In a powerful address, the Right Rev Richard Chartres, a friend of Thatcher, who died last week aged 87 following a stroke, defended her and firmly rejected the assertion that she did not believe in society. She had overcome hurdles and experienced many rebuffs, and applied herself to work with "formidable energy and passion", he said.

"Her later remark about there being no such thing as 'society' has been misunderstood and refers to some impersonal entity to which we are tempted to surrender our independence," he said.

Acknowledging her as a polarising figure, he told the congregation: "After the storm of a life led in the heat of political controversy, there is a great calm.

"The storm of conflicting opinions centres on the Mrs Thatcher who became a symbolic figure – even an 'ism'."

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: funeral; margaretthatcher; thatcher

1 posted on 04/17/2013 10:04:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So glad this went off without a hitch. Godspeed, Maggie. :*(


2 posted on 04/17/2013 10:08:42 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Images of the Funeral:




3 posted on 04/17/2013 10:08:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Here’s the telecast of the entire funeral for those who want to see it:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/ThatcherF


4 posted on 04/17/2013 10:09:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We love you Maggie, we will always love you. Good bye friend, and good job.


5 posted on 04/17/2013 10:11:34 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: SeekAndFind

Which representative from the United States was in attendance to honor the life of Ms. Thatcher?


6 posted on 04/17/2013 10:15:36 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: SeekAndFind

She is without question the anti-Communist. Those that hate her are the Communists within GB.


7 posted on 04/17/2013 10:18:56 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Then said she:

I am going to my Father’s; and though with great difficulty I am got hither, yet now I do not repent me of all the trouble I have been at to arrive where I am.

My sword I give to him that shall succeed me in my pilgrimage, and my courage and skill to him that can get it. My marks and scars I carry with me, to be a witness for me that I have fought His battles who now will be my rewarder.

So she passed over, and all the trumpets sounded for her on the other side.


(Freely adapted from Pilgrim's Progress)

8 posted on 04/17/2013 10:19:05 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Renegade

I saw that Michelle Bachman was attending...


9 posted on 04/17/2013 10:20:37 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was sort of surprised she was cremated.


10 posted on 04/17/2013 10:21:17 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: SeekAndFind
Thank you so much for this thread, photos and links, SeekAndFind.

Thank you, Mrs. Thatcher... Godspeed, and may you Rest in Peace...

11 posted on 04/17/2013 10:22:57 AM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: agere_contra

After all the “temporary” controls of World War II, after six years of Clement Attlee and full-blooded socialism, after 28 years of the muddle of the middle and the so-called era of Butskellism (named after leftist Tory Rab Butler and rightist Labourite Hugh Gaitskell), all mixed in with Keynesianism, what did Margaret Thatcher do? It’s worth reminding ourselves:

She smashed the militant mineworkers;

She brought unions back under the rule of law and gave them back to their members by making them accountable;

She conquered inflation;

She turned poor-service loss-making nationalized industries into superior-service profit-making privatized ones;

She stood up to tin-pot Argentinean dictators 8,000 miles away in the Falklands because she believed in the international rule of law, even to the extent of dispatching a task force;

She said NO to the Euro and Brussels-but not often enough;

She told Bush I not to wobble;

She faced down the IRA despite losing very close friends Airey Neave and Ian Gow and nearly being killed herself;

She sold off public housing;

She took Britain from 19th to second in the OECD; and with President Reagan,

She helped tear down that Berlin wall.

Because of her, the whole attitude of the country to enterprise, profit, and building wealth changed, and for the better. Through wider share ownership, the sale of public housing, and the liberalization of the City (the financial district of London) people got access to capital for the very first time in their lives.

In doing so, she created New Labour: Whoever is in power now has to acknowledge Britain need a healthy private sector, and that was just not true prior to 1979. Indeed at times (daily almost) one sees Labour and Liberal Democrat MPs being far more radical than David Cameron’s Conservatives.

To some, that is a disappointment; to others, it is a cause for celebrations and deep reflection.

She was the Iron Lady on so many fronts and issues, and she did not turn or bend. With President Reagan she brought the light of freedom to so many parts of the world. She brought the blessings of freedom to hundreds of millions of people.

She spent nearly 12 years at 10 Downing Street, but really her spell lasted up to 1997, as there was no Major era-nothing you could label Majorism except retreat. So it is fair to compare 1979, when she came to power, with 1997, when New Labour triumphed. And what do we see?

The middle classes grew by 17 percentage points or just over half (from 33 percent to 50 percent).

Home ownership grew by 18 percentage points, or just over a third (from 53 percent to 71 percent).

Share-owning more than trebled (7 percent to 23 percent).

Share-owning among trade unionists all but quintupled, to 29 percent (I’ll explain how and why later).

Strikes virtually disappeared, and the one place they still take place is the postal service which Margaret Thatcher reportedly refused to privatize because Her Majesty The Queen, Queen Elizabeth II would have been upset at not having her likeness on every stamp.

The percent of workers who are self-employed doubled, to 14 percent.

And the percent of workers who are in a trade union collapsed from over 50 percent to under 20 percent.

That’s one heck of an accomplishment !!


12 posted on 04/17/2013 10:23:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Excellent list, thanks!


13 posted on 04/17/2013 10:27:39 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Too bad we didn’t have a Thatcher in America.
God Speed Lady Thatcher


14 posted on 04/17/2013 10:28:19 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: Renegade
I see Michele Bachmann attended. Whether she was an official representative or not, I don't know.
15 posted on 04/17/2013 10:29:24 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Renegade
Which representative from the United States was in attendance to honor the life of Ms. Thatcher?

I know that there was a congressional rep, in Michelle Bachman.

However, the executive branch of the government decided it was more important to send their reps (including "Plugs," I believe) to the funeral of an avowed enemy of the USA, Hugo Chavez.

It's embarrassing, thought it's typical of the current regime, which simply refuses to be embarrassed.

Mark

16 posted on 04/17/2013 10:30:46 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Renegade

RE: Which representative from the United States was in attendance to honor the life of Ms. Thatcher?

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Neither Obama nor Biden went to London. No Obama administration official went.

He’s a very petty man. Has lots of time to go on golfing vacations but a one day trip to London, he has no time for.

But we do have people from the USA who went.

House delegation to fly commercial to Thatcher funeral

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/15/house-delegation-to-fly-commercial-to-thatcher-funeral/

EXCERPT:

House lawmakers will be flying commercial to the funeral of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

House Speaker John Boehner announced Monday he will be sending a House delegation to Thatcher’s funeral, led by Tennessee Republican Rep. Marsha Blackburn.

“Margaret Thatcher was one of the greatest champions freedom has ever known, and her funeral gives Americans and friends around the world an opportunity to pay final respects,” Boehner said in a statement.

“I’m pleased that Congressman Blackburn will lead a House delegation to Baroness Thatcher’s funeral to communicate our prayers and condolences to her family and the British people,” he added.

The House delegation sent to the papal inauguration also flew commercial last month, in keeping with Boehner’s directive that members not use military air transportation while sequestration is in effect.

Minnesota Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann and North Carolina Republican Rep. George Holding will also attend the funeral as part of the House delegation.

See also here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310506/Margaret-Thatchers-funeral-guests-Henry-Kissinger-Dick-Cheney—Michele-Bachmann-turn-out.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Henry Kissinger, Dick Cheney... and Michele Bachmann. American politicos turn out for Margaret Thatcher’s funeral but no one goes from Obama administration


17 posted on 04/17/2013 10:31:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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19 posted on 04/17/2013 10:33:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: McGavin999
We love you Maggie, we will always love you. Good bye friend, and good job.

                                                       "

20 posted on 04/17/2013 10:35:32 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SeekAndFind

Bravo, Dick ! !


21 posted on 04/17/2013 10:37:17 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SeekAndFind

W coming off back surgery and dad just got over being really sick and hospitalized for a long period of time.


22 posted on 04/17/2013 10:38:36 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m glad these people traveled to show respect for Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. I have a great deal of respect for her.

Great Britain lost a good one...


26 posted on 04/17/2013 10:47:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Great pictures, thanks much !

How good to see Bibi there .. well, all of 'em actually   :-)

27 posted on 04/17/2013 10:48:32 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SeekAndFind

If I manage to outlive der Fuehrer,even if I have to handle the wheelchair itself, I will piss on his grave. That is still more honor than he deserves.

FUBO, FAD, down with the democrat party


28 posted on 04/17/2013 10:49:16 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: tomkat

For those who don’t remember, Netanyahu was the DEFENSE MINISTER during the first Gulf War to free Kuwait.

Thatcher was with the Israelis all the way ( even as Saddam’s missiles were going towards Israel ). That was the first time the Patriot Missiles were used in an actual war.


29 posted on 04/17/2013 10:51:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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30 posted on 04/17/2013 10:55:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I wonder why neither Papa nor W. Bush went...

I can't say for "W," but hasn't Papa Bush been pretty ill lately? Probably not allowed to travel.

Mark

31 posted on 04/17/2013 11:04:52 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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According to Post #22 above ...

“W coming off back surgery”


32 posted on 04/17/2013 11:05:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Good comments...

As for the Reagan and Pope John Paul comments...

You know, I see reason to rue the day the Soviet Union fell.

Many good thing came from it, but many bad things did as well.

The Middle-East has melted down in no small part from the fact that the old friction melted away, and Middle-Eastern players felt free to do whatever the hell they wanted.

Islamic ascension resulted.

In our own nation, you can’t even get people to bat an eye-lash when you mention the USSR. It means nothing to people who champion the policies the USSR was known for.

With the old friction, this world might actually be a better place today. As it is, the free-for-all atmosphere translated into impending doom internationally.

It’s at least food for thought.

No slam on Reagan and the Pope is intended. They did exactly as I desired.


33 posted on 04/17/2013 11:06:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: SeekAndFind
QUEEN ELIZABETH


34 posted on 04/17/2013 11:19:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Here’s a description of what transpired:

http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/041713-652200-margaret-thatcher-funeral-obama-snub.htm?p=full

The military were everywhere in London today—guarding the flag-draped casket, escorting the casket, carrying the casket, saluting the casket—featuring soldiers, sailors and airmen primarily from units involved in the Falklands War Thatcher successfully lead in 1982 to regain that British territory from Argentina.

Three military bands standing along the funeral route played martial music at subdued volume to match the somber occasion. Six black horses, their manes shorn, pulled the casket on a World War I gun carriage. The procession band, their drums draped in black, played the funeral marches of Chopin, Mendelssohn and Beethoven.

A ceremonial minute gun fired salutes from the Tower of London throughout the 20-minute procession. All government flags at home and abroad were flown at half-mast for 12 hours. There were no early signs of the threatened protests.

Prime Minister David Cameron read from the King James Bible her favorite verse John 14.1 beginning: “Let not your heart be troubled.”

The sonorous chimes of London’s iconic Big Ben clock were silenced throughout the procession and service.

There was, however, no traditional RAF flyover. The conservative Thatcher left word she would find that a waste of precious pounds.

Among the many dignitaries attending today’s service were former prime ministers John Major, Gordon Brown and Tony Blair along with Canadian leaders Stephen Harper and Brian Mulroney and several Middle Eastern leaders.

Cultural icons such as Michael Caine, David Frost, Richard Attenborough, Shirley Bassey, Michael Crawford and Andrew Lloyd-Webber also attended, as did 10 staff members from the Ritz Hotel as a symbol of appreciation for their care during Thatcher’s last weeks.

Henry Kissinger, Newt Gingrich and Dick Cheney attended as private U.S. citizens.

President Obama has created his own reputation as anti-British through serial snubs of its leaders and gifts.

Whether there’s a connection between his obvious feelings and Britain’s colonial rule of Kenya, the homeland of Obama’s absentee father, is really irrelevant. It’s shown Obama as a petty, parochial pol, hardly presidential.
The Democrat is often photographed with his feet atop the presidential desk, a gift from Britain decades ago made from the timbers of a British man-of-war.

You may recall on his first day in the Oval Office, Obama ordered the gift bust of Winston Churchill removed and returned to Britain. He famously gave Brown a gift of American movie DVD’s, which won’t play on British machines.

He’s declined to appear jointly with some Brits and generously gave the queen an iPod packed with recordings of his own speeches.

But Obama trumped himself this week by declining to send any representative of his administration to the funeral of free-market advocate Thatcher. The Chicago Democrat appointed instead two former secretaries of State in Republican administrations—James Baker and George Schultz—and a staffer from the embassy in London.


35 posted on 04/17/2013 11:23:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Edit to add...

RE: Thatcher’s Favorite Bible verse (“Let not your heart be troubled.”)

Sean Hannity keeps using that line too :)


36 posted on 04/17/2013 11:26:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: RJS1950

RE: FUBO, FAD, down with the democrat party

Someone should have told Obama they have great golf courses in Britain...

:)


37 posted on 04/17/2013 11:28:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting this.

RIP PM Thatcher. Our country owes you a huge debt of gratitude. I’m sorry that our “pres_ent” could not be bothered to send someone from the current administration to your funeral.

Believe me it was a slap in everyone’s face.


38 posted on 04/17/2013 11:48:01 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: SeekAndFind

I read on another thread that the Loser in Chief sent an embassy staffer from London as a representative.

Here’s the article: http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/041713-652200-margaret-thatcher-funeral-obama-snub.htm?p=full

And a blurb from it:But Obama trumped himself this week by declining to send any representative of his administration to the funeral of free-market advocate Thatcher. The Chicago Democrat appointed instead two former secretaries of State in Republican administrations—James Baker and George Schultz—and a staffer from the embassy in London.


39 posted on 04/17/2013 11:51:58 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: leapfrog0202

P.S. Article linked to in post above really is worth a read.


40 posted on 04/17/2013 11:52:32 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: SeekAndFind
"According to Post #22 above ...

“W coming off back surgery”

I'm not trying to snark, but on a recent thread it was posted that W has recovered enough to play golf. In my opinion, if he can do that, he could have made the trip to Baroness Thatcher's funeral. After all, she was hardly well when she forced herself to come to Reagan's service.

41 posted on 04/17/2013 12:29:51 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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interesting if true


42 posted on 04/17/2013 12:40:46 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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Seems he had surgery back in January and is, indeed, back on the golf course. Yes, he could have made the trip to London.

"According to published reports, Bush 43′s doctors told him to give up golf until his back healed, but he managed to sneak in some chipping and putting in Florida and has now been seen back on the links at a Dallas country club."

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/04/george-w-bush-on-the-mend-after-back-surgery.html/

43 posted on 04/17/2013 12:49:21 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Java4Jay

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/04/george-w-bush-on-the-mend-after-back-surgery.html/


44 posted on 04/17/2013 12:49:50 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: SeekAndFind

Add to that he has to rested and ready for the dedication of his Presidential liberary.


45 posted on 04/17/2013 12:50:55 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: leapfrog0202

That’s why Baker and Schultz went? At O’s request? You sure wouldn’t know it. Seemed all this time they did it on their own. Not a peep from this admin.

Bottom line, no state-side current official was there?

I grow more embarrassed. After what happened for Reagan.


46 posted on 04/17/2013 1:35:11 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; leapfrog0202

SKY NEWS Interviews Congresswomen Marsha Blackburn and Michelle Bachmann after the funeral:

http://stmichael.patch.com/articles/video-michele-bachmann-on-margaret-thatcher-she-had-great-moral-clarity#youtube_video-14037613


47 posted on 04/17/2013 1:58:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I’m with you. Huge snub and an f-you to our greatest ally.

Much mending of fences will need to be done if we ever get this pond scum out of office.


48 posted on 04/17/2013 2:12:26 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Godspeed Lady Thatcher

From an grateful American.


49 posted on 04/17/2013 3:03:58 PM PDT by signor_ugarte
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