Posted on 04/16/2013 5:59:25 AM PDT by iowamark
The business community has long supported the idea of immigration reform — particularly the high-tech sector and the construction industry, which badly need the workers.
What they don’t support are some of the specifics leaking out on a new immigration reform proposal expected Tuesday from the Gang of Eight.
Now, companies and trade groups — that have been pressuring the key Senate negotiators — are preparing to unleash their lobbying forces broadly on Capitol Hill in hopes of securing changes to the package.
And that could spell trouble for the bill since any significant change to even a single element could scuttle the delicately reached bargain, leaving final passage of a comprehensive immigration reform bill in serious jeopardy.
“There are a host of different interests who will want to go to the other 92 senators,” said veteran lobbyist Tony Podesta, who represents several clients on the issue. “I think the immigration groups, high-tech community, there are lots of interests that are implicated, the agriculture industry, lots of concerns and interests that will matter a lot to people, to companies that rely a lot on Indian technology consulting companies.”
When the bill is unveiled, the eight key negotiators are expected to have signed off on the plan. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) already gave the deal a full-throat endorsement on Sunday’s talk shows.
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Whatever we do to legalize those who came here illegally, we will be making a GRAVE MISTAKE if includes a path to being a voter. AFAIK, not being able to vote must be part of the price for violating the law in the first place.
They want to come over for seasonal farm work, that’s what the old Bracero program did. However, if you are an American citizen, you are not going to get construction work in Texas. Dominated by Mexican illegals. Just a fact of life. Thousands of high-tech workers in Texas have been put out of work by H1-B visas, because they can hire them at $25-30K vs the market pay.
Let’s employ US citizens first. Then worry about H1-B, etc.
H1-B is proof that publik edukashin is a failure
Do you really think our government, which can’t/won’t enforce a border or visa visit rules, will be able to enforce voting rules concerning citizens?
I’m against amnesty but the ‘no voting’ stuff just makes it worse. I don’t want a 2 tiered citizenship. Even if it happened then 10 min after amnesty there will be chants of ‘no taxation without representation.’
I’m still waiting for Simpson Mazzoli enforcement.
They have no interest in stopping illegal voting
There's no "if" to this... it's WHEN. That was the whole point to all this. And they'll be voting much sooner than we might think. Every concession we give to La Raza -- and this IS most assuredly a concession -- will be met with demands for more. They'll be voting en masse by 2024 just in time to elect Julian Castro into the White House at the end of the Hildebeast's second term.
I LOVE IT!!!
These “tech companies” that walk around with their chin in the clouds, with PURE CERTAINTY that they know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING, and the rest of the country is a bunch of useless yahoos, just got THE SHAFT from the Senate Amnesty bunch.
They got USED, got taken for their money, to help out the Amnesty Bunch in getting their primary bill through, which was to legalize millions of new Democrat voters. Now they’re not needed, the money is spent, and the Amnesty Bunch would rather CLAMP DOWN on the H1-B visas, so as to say they’re “being tough on immigrants that steal American jobs”.
And the high tech companies, still with their chins stuck in the clouds, can’t understand what just hit them - they ALWAYS thought that Obama was “their friend”...no different than the useful idiot companies and organizations that supported Obamacare (like insurance companies), just to be LAUGHED AT after it passed.
“I’m against amnesty but the ‘no voting’ stuff just makes it worse. I don’t want a 2 tiered citizenship.”
If they’re talking that, it’s a RUSE. The courts will throw out “2-tier citizenship” the day after it’s passed...and the Dems get their voters practically overnight...and it’s game over for us.
If we must have H1-B visas, then make them easily transferable between employers so the worker can pick up and move to another company. That would force employers to at least pay them close to market wages for citizens. Of course that is the last thing businesses want for their new serfdom.
On second thought, what’s likely to happen, is that Obama will privately wink to the leaders of the High Tech firms, who will immediately drop to their knees, knowing that the wink means expanded H1-B’s, and without the new rules. Basically the Bart Stupak effect with Obamacare.
Of course Obama will then not recall the meeting.
We don’t need foreign hi-tech workers. We have plenty here that can do the job. I have been around foreign hi-tech workers for years and their work product is sub-par and borderline crap. We are constantly re-working their stuff but since they work cheap and allow software shops to maintain a 24 hour load balancing scheduled presence management keeps them, also because half of management are now foreigners as well.
“The business community has long supported the idea of immigration reform — particularly the high-tech sector and the construction industry, which badly need the workers.”
We have the high-tech sector workers but the industry does not want to compensate for the years of learning and creativity required. No they would rather hire some less qualified people from turd would countries who’s command of our language is rudimentary at best and force the rest of us to deal with them.
I got to see some of the job offer letters sent out by a tech consulting firm to a certain turd world country and it absolutely pissed me off to see how our visa program was being manipulated at the expense of Americans, willing to do the job but not for turd world wages.
I have also seen companies advertising for welders which may in most people’s minds be blue collar grunt work, but in reality requires a great degree of skill, only offer $13/Hr then turn around and complain to the government they cannot find US workers.
You would be hard pressed to find a more anti-union, pro-business person than myself HOWEVER, if we are honest with ourselves we need to admit some businesses are gaming the system and need to be kicked in the....damned censors..., “crotchal” area.
No Bias here. Lies are bad, but this is a STUPID lie.
I'm in High-Tech, I know plenty of people (including myself) who've been pushed out by low budget workers.
Agree and the lobbying forces cause amnesty,no one in the congress or senate can pass up a buck but they sure know how to pass the buck.
I’ll have to agree. Red flag BS. I don’t know anything about high tech (not smart enough for that) but as a former construction worker, and one who has a husband and 4 brothers in the construction industry, I know for a fact, Americans aren’t too lazy to do the work! A few years ago, when the economy starting bottoming out and the construction industry was going belly up, my husband and several others went south after a couple of hurricanes, hoping to pick up some extra work. After a week or so, they were told to go back home as the Mexicans had finally started trickling in and they didn’t need them (Americans) any more. My husband said some of the men actually cried as they were desperate for work to take care of their families. One of my brothers was a construction foreman in Dallas a few years ago, and he said that the illegals were taking over the industry down there, also. He picked up quite a bit Spanish and he said it was awful the way they would talk about America and us if they thought no one could understand them.
“I don’t want a 2 tiered citizenship.”
Me neither. Give them a Green Card. They become legal resident aliens. They get to enjoy complying with our tax system. They can even enjoy 2nd Amendment! But NO VOTING!
Indexed and Bumped.
“The business community has long supported the idea of immigration reform — particularly the high-tech sector”
It helps when the guys, who are supposed to be ‘conservative’, are lobbyists for Microsoft, like Grover Norquist and Suhail Khan who run CPAC, the ACU. Then throw in the other open border/lobbyist Cesar Conda...make him Rubio’s chief of staff...Bodda boom!!! INSTANT AMNESTY!
They’ve sold out the sovereignty of this nation to lobby for the ENEMY!
What is being pushed as a plus, is that the amnestied aliens won’t get citizenship for years. Well, in many local elections they can vote as soon as they’re ‘legalized’. They don’t have to be citizens to vote in local elections! That’s how places like LA only vote in Mexican leaders like their la raza mayor.
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