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Remington Sells Out To NY For $80 Million “Sniper” Rifles Government Contract
freedom outpost ^ | 4-13-14 | tim brown

Posted on 04/13/2013 5:55:09 PM PDT by TurboZamboni

Back in February, several gun manufacturers decided to boycott law enforcement in states that are hostile to the Second Amendment, states like New York for instance. They would not be providing weapons or ammunition. Within a week that number had grown by over 700%. In the first article I provided information for several gun manufacturers that could be contacted to come on board with this boycott, including Glock, Sig Sauer, Smith & Wesson and Remington. Well, now we know where Remington stands. They stand on the side of government as they have let it be known that they will be staying in New York and they have now acquired a government contract worth $80 million.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; corruption; democrats; glock; govtabuse; guncontrol; newyork; nyc; remington; secondamendment; sigsauer; smithandwesson; tyranny
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1 posted on 04/13/2013 5:55:09 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni
$80Million , the new thirty pieces of silver...
2 posted on 04/13/2013 5:59:51 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

$70 mil is chump change in the weapons business, but their lack of fidelity will certainly become well known anyway.


3 posted on 04/13/2013 6:07:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TurboZamboni
U.S. Representative Richard Hanna today announced that Remington Arms has been awarded a nearly $80 million contract to produce more than 5,000 sniper rifles for the U.S. military.

That's $16,000 per rifle.

Remington's version of the $5,000 hammer.

4 posted on 04/13/2013 6:08:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: muawiyah

Tis Sad, they make a fine rifle.


5 posted on 04/13/2013 6:08:49 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: TurboZamboni

Remington, remember Smith & Wesson?


6 posted on 04/13/2013 6:09:19 PM PDT by glock rocks (No, the game never ends, when your whole world depends, on the turn of a friendy card.)
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To: TurboZamboni

The only Remington firearm I own was made by the typewriter company.


7 posted on 04/13/2013 6:12:44 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: TurboZamboni
The contract will be awarded over the course of 10 years.

80 million over 10 years, calculates to 8 million per year. Is that a lot of business for the company. Sounds like BS to me.

8 posted on 04/13/2013 6:12:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: TurboZamboni

I’ll remember.


9 posted on 04/13/2013 6:13:53 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: TurboZamboni; Gilbo_3; NFHale

Gun safety ping!


10 posted on 04/13/2013 6:19:18 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: TurboZamboni

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20130318.aspx


11 posted on 04/13/2013 6:22:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TurboZamboni

People often wonder why business supports Democrats. The answer is quite simple: Democrats are for sale and everyone knows it. They will give you what you pay for and they will punish your competition. They are not bound by any moral scruples or political philosophy, so everyone is welcome as long as you bring lots of money.

Republicans do this too, but they aren’t really serious about it, aren’t well organized to do it on a large scale, and sometimes take a stand on principle. They can’t be relied upon to practice corruption at a professional level.


12 posted on 04/13/2013 6:24:08 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Texas Fossil
Remington makes nothing that is not supplant-able by some competitor's product. I doubt that I will ever buy anything connected to Remington ever again.
13 posted on 04/13/2013 6:26:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Boycott


14 posted on 04/13/2013 6:28:28 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

think about this! “over 5,000 rifles”? The contract is over 10 years. That is 500 rifles at $16,000 per rifle per year.

A stupid 500 rifles per year. This is nuts.


15 posted on 04/13/2013 6:33:25 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: muawiyah; All

The free market strikes again. A two edged sword.


16 posted on 04/13/2013 6:38:04 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: TurboZamboni

I remember when they listed Lon Horiuchi’s name as a satisfied customer of their H-S precision sniper rifles. I wrote their president a very polite but venomous email and actually got a response. My suggestion of a boycott rattled him. He changed his stance and pulled all the advertising.

Perhaps someone here can use this: tommy.millner@remington.com

Be polite and remember that he is a gunmaker and generally on our side. He might still be planning on moving outta New York. Is the contract tied to producing it in NY?


17 posted on 04/13/2013 6:38:58 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: TurboZamboni

That’s a shame, a Custom 40x in 25-06 was on my list. I’m not sure what I’ll replace it with, few rifles even compare.


18 posted on 04/13/2013 6:41:21 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: muawiyah
i hope so...
19 posted on 04/13/2013 6:41:44 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: TurboZamboni

The announcement “did not” say Remington is not moving any of it’s production from NY. It said they were awarded a 80 million contract over 10 years and that they were spending 20 million on the plant. This is the new “modular” rifle for the U.S. military. That contract translates into 500 guns per year (total of 5,000 weapons).

I think it is early to assume some of the other production will not be moved. They do produce weapons in other places and in foreign countries. Nothing new there.

We shall see.


20 posted on 04/13/2013 6:43:03 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: MHGinTN
While I might agree that their off the shelf new stuff isn't what it used to be, they make what I would consider among the best of the best. Dad has 3, 40x in various chambers and I can tell you, only their model 700v even comes close. If you want a bench rifle, it almost has to be a 40x. If there is something recent out there that can compete, I haven't heard about it.

I'm more than a little disappointed in their decision to do this, I always thought they would take the high road but you never know, it may not have even been their decision, they are held by someone else now.

21 posted on 04/13/2013 6:47:32 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: MHGinTN

I understand, but I am holding judgement for a while. It may be as presented, but this did not come from Remington, It came from a ComDem POL.

We shall see.


22 posted on 04/13/2013 6:56:10 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Umm, what am I missing here. The article says they are contracted to make new modular rifles for the US military, not for NYS LEOs. Just happens that they’re making them in the NY factory.


23 posted on 04/13/2013 6:57:05 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: centurion316

excellent post....very well said...


24 posted on 04/13/2013 7:02:17 PM PDT by homegroan (Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Doesn’t make sense to me.

Something is hidden from the public.


25 posted on 04/13/2013 7:02:55 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Marine snipers use the Remington 700 frame. It’s all the attachments that make it an M40 “sniper rifle”, and those attachments cost a lot more than the rifle. A LOT more.


26 posted on 04/13/2013 7:04:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FreeInWV

When it came out the Lon was promoting HS, somebody posted a picture of Vicki Weaver to their “Trophy Page”. They took it down, but not before it got all around the net.


27 posted on 04/13/2013 7:06:57 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: FreeInWV; All
I've met the man. Remington's headquarters are just a few miles up the road from me in Madison, NC. Their Custom Gun Shop has been a marketing client of mine in the past.

Y'all are barking up the wrong tree, here. Remington began in New York, that's their historic main plant in Ilion. Going on two centuries of history there, tradition, jobs at stake, longtime employees.

Trying to boycott every single company that doesn't act in absolute perfect accord with demands, and demands made after the fact at that, will weaken the meaning and impact of any such boycott in general.

Remington Arms is not your enemy. They've just elected to stay in the manufacturing facility they've always been in.

28 posted on 04/13/2013 7:07:20 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: TurboZamboni

What in the world does New York need with $80 million dollars worth of sniper rifles? That seems to be the real question.


29 posted on 04/13/2013 7:08:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Texas Fossil

Tex. Ive had both Remington and Savage varmitt rifles. Still have one in a Savage .223. IMO the Savage rifles have been more accurate right out of the and a much better value. Their accu trigger is is as good as it gets for an OEM trigger set up.

Regardless I will not buy any Remington again. Screw em.


30 posted on 04/13/2013 7:09:18 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: Lancey Howard

The contract is for the M2010, 700 action, but everything else is new. Very good sniper rifle.


31 posted on 04/13/2013 7:09:26 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: TurboZamboni

Color me Rip Van Winkle, but when did the U.S. military become “law enforcement in states that are hostile to the Second Amendment, states like New York?”


32 posted on 04/13/2013 7:16:39 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Tijeras_Slim

It doesn’t look taken down to me:

http://www.progunleaders.org/H-S/


33 posted on 04/13/2013 7:25:49 PM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: TurboZamboni

will those rifles be for domestic use?


34 posted on 04/13/2013 7:27:47 PM PDT by stickywillie (how come there's no father-in-law jokes?)
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To: MHGinTN

Here is an announcement about a contract they made with the US Government on April 20, 2012 for the procurement of a maximum of 120,000 M4/M4A1 carbines by the US Army.

The Army has initially ordered 24,000 M4A1 carbines from Remington; deliveries will start in September, 2013

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120426006224/en/Army-Awards-M4-M4A1-Carbine-Contract-Remington%C2%AE

The company has had a history of large government contracts for weapons. They are the oldest company of it’s type in the US.

They have also had a history of financial problems. Feast or famine type production really hurts a company that is heavily dependent on government contract.

They consolidated their Marlin production in upstate NY. Their headquarters are in NC.

So, it appears they have a large Government Contract with delivery scheduled to begin in September. And now this new contract for $80 million over 10 years.

My conclusion is that this had NOTHING to do with the gun legislation, but was due to a shift from civilian to military production by the ownership (Freedom Group).

I do not work in this industry, but it looks like their focus is military now.


35 posted on 04/13/2013 7:30:10 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: RegulatorCountry
Remington Arms is not your enemy. They've just elected to stay in the manufacturing facility they've always been in.

while the ground the plant stands on is now openly hostile to freedom

Sorry - business is business - I dont do business with people that support abortion either - as the politics dont match my own. If remington chooses to do business with people that take away my freedoms, I no longer do business with them…period

36 posted on 04/13/2013 7:30:44 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: Afterguard

I read that the same way as you did.

The plant is in NY, the buyer is the US military.


37 posted on 04/13/2013 7:31:07 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“U.S. Representative Richard Hanna today announced that Remington Arms has been awarded a nearly $80 million contract to produce more than 5,000 sniper rifles for the U.S. military.”

Did you read that sentence in your post to its end? That whole “U.S. military” thing? Do tell how, exactly, U.S. military is New York State law enforcement?


38 posted on 04/13/2013 7:33:03 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
I didn't catch that.

Ubama bribed them.

39 posted on 04/13/2013 7:36:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: suijuris

I am not defending them.

I simply do not believe the gun grab is the reason they are expanding in upstate NY.

Yes, I have heard the Savage bolt action rifles are very good. I have not bought a new rifle in a long time. But made a commitment in January to beef up my reloading equipment and supplies. That is almost all in place. Do I expect to need it? Not sure. But I think I will be able to reload what I have and hunt if I need to.

There is a great rumbling in the ether. I smell the scent. This summer will not be without gatherings.


40 posted on 04/13/2013 7:46:54 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Revelation 911

You realize the contract in question was military and not with the State of New York, don’t you?


41 posted on 04/13/2013 7:55:35 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: TurboZamboni

Let me see if I have this straight.

Our country is at war and an American firearms company (Remington) is selling firearms to our military to be used in this war and there are those on this website who are offended by this.

Have I stumbled across a DU website?

I’m out of here.


42 posted on 04/13/2013 7:57:35 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think THIS boycott will work. They are getting absolutely steamrollered on their Facebook page. Boycotts are easy to publicize these days.


43 posted on 04/13/2013 8:04:04 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Texas Fossil

I agree. Wonder what the real deal is and who really gets the greatest amount of the profits.


44 posted on 04/13/2013 8:06:44 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Texas Fossil

The expansion of the Ilion, NY facility was under discussion before this controversy ever began. I told several people who were insisting on FR that Remington was moving from NY to TX this some time back, that they were slated for a major expansion in NY which is odd behavior if they’re about to move it all to TX. Whatever the source of that rumor might have been, clearly it was incorrect regarding this plant in NY.


45 posted on 04/13/2013 8:06:59 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Politicalmom

And it’s utterly inane, Emily Litella level misunderstanding. It’s a US military contract for one, and they were planning on expanding that plant before the controversy ever began.


46 posted on 04/13/2013 8:09:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: TurboZamboni
Maybe they'll get a contract for the new "Good Citizen" line of firearms, with RFID chip trigger activation.


47 posted on 04/13/2013 8:13:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Politicalmom

80 mill in sniper rifles alone how many snipers do the military have now and they need more?
Give me a break here kids. We have 80mil dollars worth of sniper rifles that need a home! This is BS to the max!
More Like 80mil payoff to keep what 1000 jobs in the state of Ny!
Take our weapons but keep their jobs! Sorry Remmington I was lookin at a new 30.06 but it will not be from you!


48 posted on 04/13/2013 8:15:04 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: EDINVA

“but when did the U.S. military become,,,,,

I would say the Military became law enforcement worthy of high suspicion and close scrutiny when NDAA passed saying they could arrest US citizens, in America, and hold them incommunicado, with no hearings or attorneys, no due process, no trials, as long as they want. All they must do is deem that you “support terror”. This could even be with writings opposing Obama.

And also, when the military began using TEA party activists as a fictional insurgent enemy instead of “orange republic” etc,,, as they have for decades. When the troops are trained (like last week) that Christianity is terror related, as are people who wish the constitution to be followed.

Thats when.


49 posted on 04/13/2013 8:16:48 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Texas Fossil
The state of New York has granted Remington millions of dollars over the years to upgrade and renovate their Illion facilities, almost $6 million just recently.

“In 2010, Empire State Development, the agency that works with private companies to attract and retain jobs, announced $2.5 million in grants and subsidies to help Remington bring its Marlin lever-action gun production from Connecticut to Ilion and add 100 jobs. That followed two grants in 2009 worth $3 million for renovations and machinery.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006698/posts

50 posted on 04/13/2013 8:18:30 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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