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Rick Santorum: ‘It Would Be Suicidal’ If GOP Embraces Gay Marriage
Business Insider ^ | 04/09/2013 | Billy Hallowell, The Blaze

Posted on 04/09/2013 6:33:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

As conservatives continue to grapple with how they — and the Republican Party at large — should handle the issue of gay marriage, some prominent voices are coming out to either endorse or condemn pushes for the movement to embrace same-sex nuptials. Among those personalities is former presidential candidate Rick Santorum.

In an interview with the Des Moines Register, the politician said that embracing gay marriage would be “suicidal” for the party. The former senator also noted that some Republicans, like Sen. Mark Kirk of Illinois, and Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio, who have openly endorsed gay marriage are no different than those politicians who parted ideological ways from the party over the abortion issue in the 1960s and 1970s.

Former GOP presidential candidate and former Sen. Rick Santorum said: “I’m sure you could go back and read stories, oh, you know, ‘The Republican party’s going to change. This is the future.’ Obviously that didn’t happen,” Santorum told the outlet. “I think you’re going to see the same stories written now and it’s not going to happen. The Republican party’s not going to change on this issue. In my opinion it would be suicidal if it did.”

Santorum went on to note that speaking about how best to communicate messages is fine, but that transforming “foundational principles” is another story — one that could prove problematic for the GOP.

“Just because some of those things happen to be popular right now doesn’t mean the Republican party should follow suit,” he noted.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; ricksantorum; santorum; ssm

1 posted on 04/09/2013 6:33:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP is rotten to the core!!

This club will embrace, kiss and enjoy rolling around in the hay with the sodomites. Their business is gaining more seats in Congress period.

They’re so damned stupid they don’t realize that negroes and Mexicans will NEVER vote for them en masse.


2 posted on 04/09/2013 6:40:35 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: SeekAndFind

3 posted on 04/09/2013 6:41:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rob Portman is the Mike Castle of today.

I will never vote for a candidate that embraces homosexual marriage.... EVER. PERIOD. END OF STORY.


4 posted on 04/09/2013 6:44:08 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: SeekAndFind

He is correct.


5 posted on 04/09/2013 6:58:18 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Viennacon

If you’re gunna walk like a Democrat and quack like a Democrat, just be a Democrat.


6 posted on 04/09/2013 6:59:20 AM PDT by super7man
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To: SeekAndFind

“If GOP Embraces Gay Marriage”

Too late. The Whig Party has already embraced suicide.


7 posted on 04/09/2013 7:06:12 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well said, Senator.


8 posted on 04/09/2013 7:06:56 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Viennacon
I will never vote for a candidate that embraces homosexual marriage.... EVER. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

Mega-dittoes from me.

9 posted on 04/09/2013 7:09:43 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good grief, the GOP IS suicicidal.

Example: McQweeg, Bob Dole, Bonehead Boenher.

QED

RIP GOP.


10 posted on 04/09/2013 7:19:49 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind; xzins; P-Marlowe
I hate to give the Rats credit for anything since their goal is the enslavement of the American people through a tyrannical govt., but they are succeeding. They have a 2 pronged strategy to achieve this goal; first, expand their base; second, shrink the Pub base. They are pushing the normalization of illegal immigrants to build their base and SSAD Marriage is the means by which they will destroy the most reliable voting bloc in the Pub party.

SSAD (Same Sex Attraction Disorder) Marriage will be the end of my ever voting for Pubs again. In their rush to reach the left they are undermining the Judeo-Christian values that are the foundation of civil society. We are falling into Gomorrah and I'm not going to support it. I know that all these "tolerant" liberals (Pubs included) will be shocked when they discover that living like barnyard animals means you will be treated like a barnyard animal, but by then it will be too late.

GOD help us all.

11 posted on 04/09/2013 7:29:08 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: SeekAndFind

If this doesn’t split the Party we are all doomed - I can see the Tea Party transforming into a true political party - and we take the Ted Cruzes, Sarah Palins, and Colonel Wests with us.


12 posted on 04/09/2013 7:38:34 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: SeekAndFind
‘It Would Be Suicidal’ If GOP Embraces Gay Marriage

IT will be suicidal for the GOP and they WILL embrace gay marriage. What does the GOP stand for in 2013 - can anyone tell me? Don't say small Government after Boner and the boys funded 2013 at a higher level than 2011.

The GOP is every bit part of this problem as the RATa are.

Quote from the DebatePolicy forum - "Sequestration doesn't cut anything! We will INCREASE spending 7% instead of 9%.

All the politicians are screaming about how terrible the cuts will be in sequestration.

Just one problem: There aren't any.

For the last four years (2008-2011), we have increased govt spending an average of 9% per year.

13 posted on 04/09/2013 7:41:19 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: wmfights; SeekAndFind; P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson
Santorum....“Just because some of those things happen to be popular right now doesn’t mean the Republican party should follow suit,” he noted.

SSAD (Same Sex Attraction Disorder) Marriage will be the end of my ever voting for Pubs again.

Good for Santorum, but allow me to suggest that when we "vote for the team" as Santorum has done, and as I have done, and have others have done, we end up getting a Romney who was totally in the gay camp so far as I remember.

And Santorum and the rest of us ended up supporting him. I had my reason....Benghazi...which Romney ended up turning coward on...so I was proven wrong.

I'm also correct that the Constitution Party ran an absolutely stupid campaign for the presidency when they should have been running Goode for his old congressional seat in Virginia.

But, I agree, Wm, if the GOP officially endorses gay marriage, then I will depart. Departure only makes sense if I have the moral courage to actually begin working with an alternative political party. Otherwise, I'm just putting my head in the sand.

14 posted on 04/09/2013 7:43:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Travis McGee

The reason the Dems support Gay Marriage is because the GOP oppose it, so if the GOP would support Gay Marriage then the Dems would oppose it


15 posted on 04/09/2013 7:56:32 AM PDT by molson209
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To: SeekAndFind

Suicidal in a spiritual sense, as well.

Thank God for at least one voice of sanity.


16 posted on 04/09/2013 8:07:41 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: CatherineofAragon

RE: Thank God for at least one voice of sanity.

That is why he can’t be President. :(


17 posted on 04/09/2013 8:12:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: xzins; SeekAndFind; P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson
Departure only makes sense if I have the moral courage to actually begin working with an alternative political party. Otherwise, I'm just putting my head in the sand.

my wife and I have attended Tea Party functions. Overall I've been less than impressed. My experience at these events is they are long on rhetoric and short on practical application. We will continue to contribute to conservatives campaigns and to vote in the primaries.

I supported Romney and thought he would be alright, especially compared to the alternative. I suspect that a majority of those conservatives that did not vote did so either because he was another northeast liberal pretending to be a conservative, or because he is a member of a fringe religious cult. Now that we see the Pubs collapsing I will probably be in that camp that won't vote for a party candidate in the general election unless I'm confident they really are a conservative.

18 posted on 04/09/2013 8:22:14 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: IbJensen

Agreed. The Republican party is no longer raising men one can entrust to govern our public affairs. In fact ALL of our public officials whether Democrat or Republican are bankrupt. They will turn us over to governance by aliens, Sodomites, drug addicts, money grubbing nonentities and any other foul and low thing.


19 posted on 04/09/2013 8:33:16 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SeekAndFind
Our pastor began a sermon series on marriage last Sunday, and, as expected, a major portion of the first sermon was on the impossibility of same-sex "marriage," not to mention the illegitimacy of the heaven-barring activity of homosexuality itself.

He related the instance of some young women who came to as him some questions after an a previous service. The "questions" were almost cut-and-dry talking points of the homo-Left, not genuine inquiry. The pastor has fallen into the erroneous belief that young people are almost wholly Bible-illiterate, especially when it comes to sexuality. Nothing can be further from the truth. Largely uninformed in the scriptures, yes, but EVERYONE who is even tangentially involved in a biblical church knows that homosexuality is condemned, and the basic reasons it is.

These young women DIDN'T WANT TO ACCEPT the biblical position; it wasn't that they were ignorant of it.

20 posted on 04/09/2013 8:41:40 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Psalm 73
I can see the Tea Party transforming into a true political party...

Well, the TEA Party, as originally established, was admittedly only about "fiscal" issues of taxation, and many of its early leaders scorned ANY social/moral issues being associated with the movement.

The TP is good as far as it goes, but it doesn't go far enough. Even STILL, it is largely a "fiscal-only" conservative movement, which couldn't care less about other equally important issues, wanting to "call a truce" on them (Mitch Daniels, anyone?). Until we have a party that espouses ALL the principles of true conservatism, we will be "men without a country."

21 posted on 04/09/2013 8:47:06 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can anyone imagine the answers that Mitt Romney would be giving regarding this issue?

And then, ask why Romney was a better candidate than Santorum.


22 posted on 04/09/2013 8:48:28 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: IbJensen
The GOP is rotten to the core!!

Maybe not to the core but that it's "leaders" have just gone squishy soft on the core tenets of what republicanism is. Much like the leaders of the Catholic Church have gone away from the core of Christ's church and what he preached.

Charles Voris explains here and in other videos on his ChurchMilitant.TV site what is at work here. Give it a look see.

Catholic Twilight Zone

23 posted on 04/09/2013 9:09:36 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: SeekAndFind

You’re right. Once the GOP fully supports homo marriage, he and other “purists” will be completely marginalized.


24 posted on 04/09/2013 9:12:14 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: SeekAndFind
Santorum is correct, but the problem is much broader. It's suicidal for the republicans to try to out-democrat the democrats. We see the republicans caving on all manner of issues: immigration, spending, entitlements, etc.. In so doing, the republicans will alientate their base, lose votes and never get enough democrat crossovers to compensate for the loss. RIP GOP.
25 posted on 04/09/2013 10:58:25 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: SeekAndFind; xzins; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; ...

If the GOP embraces same sex marriage, it will be the end of the GOP. The same fate will befall it should it embrace amnesty, abortion, gun control, ObamaCare or any other major failure to defend God, Life, Family, Country, Liberty!!

We don’t need another democrat/socialist party.


26 posted on 04/09/2013 12:08:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!n)
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To: Jim Robinson

No we don’t and I will no longer EVER vote for the GOP! My candidate will have to pass a conservative litmus test from now on! The last election taught me something.


27 posted on 04/09/2013 1:00:53 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I guarantee you, if the next Republican Presidential candidate approves gay marriage, most on this forum will vote for him/her using the reason, “He/she is better than voting for a Democrat.” And those of us who won't vote for that gay approving Republican candidate, will get hit over the head - again.
28 posted on 04/09/2013 1:30:44 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: IbJensen

In order to attract more white people, the party will have to move to be more neutral on cultural issues. What group of social conservatives have we not already won who are hiding out there?


29 posted on 04/09/2013 4:26:28 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Marcella

Well, I for one will have to take my licks and live with them, because there is a line I won’t cross.

Just the other day, someone here told me if it comes down to voting for a Democrat or a Republican who supports sodomite marriage, he’ll support the Republican every time———BUT, he hastened to say, that wouldn’t mean he himself feels the same!


30 posted on 04/09/2013 5:28:49 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: SeekAndFind

I just might support Santorum again in 2016 to force the RNC platform to stay true to conservative social issues. You can’t have a truce on social issues when the Homosexual Agenda is bent on destroying faith and freedom.


31 posted on 04/09/2013 5:31:48 PM PDT by yongin (If the GOP embraces gay marriage, then more Mark Foley scandals will emerge)
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To: Jim Robinson

Indeed. Thanks for the ping!


32 posted on 04/09/2013 8:24:12 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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