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US 'plans tit-for-tat response to North Korea'
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 4/8/13 | Damien McElroy

Posted on 04/08/2013 3:14:34 AM PDT by markomalley

The United States and South Korea have reportedly drawn up joint plans for a retaliatory set of tit-for-tat responses to any strikes by North Korean on its neighbour.

The scale of the response has been set down in a new war plan to ensure that there is no unintended escalation into broader war.

The new "counter-provocation" plan is calling for an immediate but proportional "response in kind" to North Korea if it decides to launch a ground attack or a missile, the New York Times reported last night, citing unnamed US officials.

Under the plan, the source of any North Korean attack will be hit with similar weapons, the report said.

If the North Koreans were to shell a South Korean island that had military installations, the plan calls for the South to retaliate quickly with a barrage of artillery of similar intensity, the paper noted.

White House officials are attempting to downplay the military build-up on the penninsula in an effort to calm the situation. Dan Pfeiffer, the senior advisor to President Barack Obama, said on Sunday that North Korea had display similar behaviour "many times" in the past.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Japan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: barry0titter; japan; nktitfortat; nkwar; northkorea; waronterror
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Gee...sounds like a winning strategy. "Tit for tat."

I sure am glad we have such a fantastic military mind running this place (/sarc)


1 posted on 04/08/2013 3:14:34 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Tit for tat? How about smoking hole in the ground? Oh that’s right, just something he’ll have to apologize for later.


2 posted on 04/08/2013 3:18:55 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: markomalley

We should nuke North Korea before it nukes us.

I don’t know about you but Dr. Strangelove appears to be running our North Korean war strategy - sans the bomb.

Too bad we can’t eject Peter Sellers over Pyongyang.


3 posted on 04/08/2013 3:19:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: markomalley
Where the heck did the concept of "proportional response" come from? Tit for Tat?

Don't tug on Superman's cape. Unless, of course, the guy wearing the cape is a wimpy Muslim.

4 posted on 04/08/2013 3:23:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

George Patton would be rolling over in his grave.

Americans are in it to win. Tit-for-tat? Sounds like a politically correct “you live to fight another day” war.

If we had fought World War II like that, we’d be speaking German today and hailing the Fuhrer!


5 posted on 04/08/2013 3:26:02 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: markomalley

6 posted on 04/08/2013 3:27:43 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: markomalley

Tit for tat? Our response is more twaddle from that twit Obama.


7 posted on 04/08/2013 3:33:11 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: goldstategop
Nukes? Not necessarily.

Destroy missiles on the pad? Yes.

Unrestricted cyber warfare? Yes.

Decapitation strikes? Yes.

Blockade? Yes. (Not sanctions, a REAL blockade. Nothing goes in, nothing comes out.)

Bomb nuclear sites? Yes.

Incubate a revolt? Yes.

That should be sufficient.

By the way, cancelling the missile test in California gave NK a great victory and has emboldened their efforts. They see it as a vindication of their policies.

8 posted on 04/08/2013 3:43:08 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: markomalley

North Koreahas already declared they are at war. They have even given us the date they intend to start the battles

When a country attacks another country, you kick it’s ass. You don’t say you shoot ten of my guys and I will shoot ten of yours.,

North Korea is a boil on the ass of theworld that needs to be lanced.

Lance it and “Git er Done”. once and for all.


9 posted on 04/08/2013 3:48:28 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: markomalley
Sh!t is about to get real


10 posted on 04/08/2013 3:57:15 AM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: markomalley
immediate but proportional "response in kind"

A really stupid strategy.

When your enemy strikes, hit back with all you have. Destroy.

11 posted on 04/08/2013 4:03:53 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: markomalley

This whole thing is an annual joke.

FK em....

Let their people eat grass.

Nuttin’s gonna happen.

Kabuki theater done so very poorly ....

Ignore that fat FK ....


12 posted on 04/08/2013 4:05:22 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: markomalley

What would the Kenyan flash know about tits; let alone tats?


13 posted on 04/08/2013 4:05:35 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: markomalley

Great. Two gangsta thugs going at it. As usual, there will be no winners.


14 posted on 04/08/2013 4:07:28 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: goldstategop

No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. You won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country


15 posted on 04/08/2013 4:07:34 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: markomalley

Just send a couple of Carnival cruise ships to the NORKS.

They will have a fun time cruising in circles eating their own feces.


16 posted on 04/08/2013 4:08:24 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: markomalley

We’re going to have a heck of a time ensuring casualties are of the same age, race, gender, persuasion, income bracket, etc.... That is if we really want to be fair about it.


17 posted on 04/08/2013 4:12:25 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: markomalley

This is exactly what Johnson and McNamara did in Vietnam. It is also the perfect receipe for disaster. The pain will grow slowly in NK and they will adjust and continue to survive and fight. The first response on our part should rather be substantial enough to shock them into reality.


18 posted on 04/08/2013 4:12:57 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: markomalley

This is one of the most idiotic “strategies” I’ve ever heard of.


19 posted on 04/08/2013 4:16:56 AM PDT by youngidiot (God help us.)
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To: markomalley

How about this—we tit them before they tat us...........

What the heck has this country come to? Iit’s like waking up in a different universe every morning.


20 posted on 04/08/2013 4:24:30 AM PDT by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: markomalley

Uh... what's a tat?


21 posted on 04/08/2013 4:27:44 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: markomalley

New Wednesdays at 9, 8 Central. Wuss-Wars! Only on Discovery...


22 posted on 04/08/2013 4:30:47 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: markomalley

Gee, good plan. /sarc

NK takes out a world-class thriving metropolis like Seoul, and tit-for-tat would be to, what, take out Pyongyang? The Detroit of Asia?

Meanwhile, millions of innocent people on both sides will die. And Dear Leader doesn’t realize that North Korea has nothing to lose.

This is precisely the kind of plan that you get from ‘leadership” that:
- has no respect for human life (as shown by his support for abortion)
- has no experience with diplomacy
- has no military experience
- is spineless


23 posted on 04/08/2013 4:49:32 AM PDT by kidd
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To: markomalley

Sounds like JFK. They just want a kinda-almost-war.


24 posted on 04/08/2013 4:50:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: markomalley

What moron thought this up?
The only thing an enemy really understands is overwhelming superiority as a response to an attack.


25 posted on 04/08/2013 4:50:59 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: markomalley

So if NK chooses a civilian target Obama will retaliate by,,,going golfing...


26 posted on 04/08/2013 4:54:47 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: ClearCase_guy
Where the heck did the concept of "proportional response" come from?

The first time I remember hearing it was when (j)urinalists complained about one of their ilk being killed in the battle of Bhagdad. US troops were taking fire from a hotel so a tank blew a big hole in it and a (j)urinalist was killed...,...(no loss imo)

IIRC, there was some kind of court case brought about over this but I don't remember the outcome.

27 posted on 04/08/2013 4:55:40 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: markomalley

Oh, yeah, giving them the first shot is SUCH a good strategy!

I’m getting a headache from the stupidity of this Keystone Kops bunch!


28 posted on 04/08/2013 4:55:58 AM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: IbJensen

Ok, that made me LOL!

You’re right... :)


29 posted on 04/08/2013 4:58:47 AM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: markomalley
tit for tat?

first of all, I don't want tat

second, the whole thing lacks that essential Capone feeling.

Malone: You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way! And that's how you get Capone. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I'm offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?
After all, Obama is from Chicago, is he not?
30 posted on 04/08/2013 5:10:07 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: NonValueAdded
Crush your enemies; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women. Conan the Barbarian

Or as Genghis Khan, might put it,

vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.

Good times.

31 posted on 04/08/2013 5:21:43 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (01-21-13, Obama declares war on The Constitution of the United States)
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To: markomalley

Telling my second daughter that we would spank her if she did “X” never worked well, as she thought we were making a deal. She could do “X” if she was willing to get a spanking. We had to find a more useful form of punishment.

I’m afraid the same applies to NK. We have now announced that they can do whatever they want, as long as they are willing to accept the a punishment of their choosing.


32 posted on 04/08/2013 5:22:56 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Zer0 doesn’t want to be portrayed as a “bully”

His feminine side keeps getting in the way. Problem is, it’s both sides for this little pansy.


33 posted on 04/08/2013 5:28:03 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: youngidiot

You got that right. It is one insult and one outrage after another with this boob in the White Hut.


34 posted on 04/08/2013 5:41:43 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: markomalley

Obama will send Michelle over there to Korea, and she will solve all the US problems at once.


35 posted on 04/08/2013 5:52:43 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: markomalley

The White House has become a reality TV show.

WHAT’S THE DUMBS**T GOING TO COME UP WITH TODAY?


36 posted on 04/08/2013 5:53:08 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Proportional response”

Comes from the lefts idea that Israel shouldn’t use more force in response to an attack that the turd heads had used to attack Israel.


37 posted on 04/08/2013 5:56:00 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: markomalley

We don’t have a gunfighter for President. That’s for sure.


38 posted on 04/08/2013 6:01:09 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: markomalley
Thankfully, Obama is ready for anything, given his demanding schedule today, which starts at the crack of Dawn:

11:15 AM Obama and Biden receive the presidential daily briefing.

39 posted on 04/08/2013 6:03:18 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: markomalley

RIP, concept of overwhelming military response.

Once upon a time, America actually sought to win conflicts against aggressors. Now it’s just “tit-for-tat.”

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.


40 posted on 04/08/2013 6:06:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: onedoug
We don’t have a gunfighter for President. That’s for sure

That is DEFINITELY for sure...


41 posted on 04/08/2013 6:10:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: markomalley

That is stupid. We should either ignore the Norks, or, if we can’t, strike with overwhelming and massively destructive force.
Personally, I’d go for declaring a blockade, mining their harbors, destroying their rail links to China and Russia, and taking down any major bridges I could reach. Clamp down on the food and fuel, then sit and wait. If any one complains about “humanitarian issues,” tell them to go piss up a rope.


42 posted on 04/08/2013 6:20:30 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: goldstategop

“... and hailing the Fuhrer...”

Sadly, there are those in this country today doing exactly that.


43 posted on 04/08/2013 6:26:04 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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To: markomalley

On this day, cannot think of anything else other than what would Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher do? Then the understanding comes forth of why these two are missed so very much. God normally allows Giants to come forth to solve problems when most needed as was the case with God having brought forth Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. While typing today it is easy to think God has turned His back on this planet. If God has not turned His back may there be leaders coming forth instead of the lack of leaders we presently witness in power.


44 posted on 04/08/2013 6:34:28 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Portcall24

Exactly.

The libs didn’t learn a darned thing and are doomed to repeat their error. . . at the cost of American lives.


45 posted on 04/08/2013 6:54:13 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Roccus

Proportional response, I seem to recall, was first used in the nuke context, as in instead of massive retaliation we would respond in a proportional manner.


46 posted on 04/08/2013 6:56:20 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: hondact200

Oh heck. . .she would luv it there, what with all those skinny people avoiding fats and salts and other bad foods.


47 posted on 04/08/2013 6:58:13 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Could be, but I always thought our response to nuke was supposed to be all-out retaliation...hence, MAD.


48 posted on 04/08/2013 7:11:02 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Telepathic Intruder
This is nothing more than the "Proportionate Response" crapola that Johnson and McNamara tried in Vietnam. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

If you unleash the dogs of war, you had better be in to win.

49 posted on 04/08/2013 7:28:20 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: markomalley

What happened to “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”?

Oh yeah. That’s just his approach to dealing with US citizens.


50 posted on 04/08/2013 7:34:49 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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