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Broadcasters worry about 'Zero TV' homes
AP ^ | 4/7/13 | RYAN NAKASHIMA

Posted on 04/08/2013 2:43:32 AM PDT by markomalley

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Zero TV since 2002!


141 posted on 04/08/2013 8:36:29 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: markomalley

I don’t think broadcasters are as catatonic about this as the reports make out.

They still sell advertising space on programs they air over the internet.

This is just a paradigm shift. That’s all.


142 posted on 04/08/2013 8:37:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: markomalley

It should also be noted that people are still going to have televisions. They’ll merely stream direct to the source rather than pay high rates to a third party cable service.

Televisions are already out that surf the internet, and can access video content directly. It’s a great deal.


143 posted on 04/08/2013 8:39:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: redgolum
Either legislation mandating the watching of commercials (can't fast forward on your DVR), which doesn't have a great shot of working,

I'm not cross-examining you and appreciate our dialogue but it has NO shot of working. Web sites, torrents, usenet, etc...first-run shows are available ad-free within minutes of airing. Powerful hardware/software to encode and distribute content is everywhere, with an unseen, unpaid army willing and able to provide the content to millions worldwide (which also makes a mockery of the staggered international release of shows and films). The copyright argument has been done to death...no need to relive it here. While I thoroughly support capitalism, in this case the model of restrictive technology (in the form of premium channels, unskippable DVRs etc.) in order to drive up prices (or hold them steady) is so broken that it has joined the other side i.e. it repels new customers as well as the old ones! Madness.

144 posted on 04/08/2013 8:59:27 AM PDT by relictele
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To: GregB

HDHomeRun is a brand name for a TV tuner that outputs the signal to an Ethernet cable. Previously used a tuner card in my Vista computer, but when I upgraded to Windows 8 it wasn’t supported and found it better to go with this external tuner, now can access from any of my computers in the house (currently 7, with the kids’ and wife’s).


145 posted on 04/08/2013 9:02:47 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: relictele

Of course it is dead on arrival, but the ad industry is going away. They have a lot of influence and connections, and will try to fight the change.

In the end it will be like what is happening to the music industry. Adapt or die.


146 posted on 04/08/2013 9:17:47 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: markomalley

You get older you know all the plot lines and you have seen better and better looking actors and actresses. So movies rarely interest me anymore. Drama rarely interests me. The younger you are the easier it is to get wrapped up in the fiction you get on TV or movies. A girl will think her life depends on what Justin Beiber does


147 posted on 04/08/2013 9:47:20 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: dennisw
My recent favorite shows have been

— Gold Rush Alaska
— Game of Thrones
—Breaking Bad
-— Mad Men — plots are silly but I like the time travel back to the sixties for me. With the way the people look and everything else looks. A nostalgia trip

148 posted on 04/08/2013 9:50:49 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: markomalley

I cut the chord almost 2 months ago. TV’s are hooked up to Mohu Leaf antennas which pull in around 30 channels (lots more offerings now with digital TV). Have one Roku on Family Room TV and one Apple TV on basement big screen. As far as sports go, I get all the local channels obviously, but also use the Watch ESPN app on my iPhone with AirPlay on the Apple TV to broadcast the ESPN channels to the TV. That solves about 95% of the sports I like to watch. I will miss the NFL Network in the fall, but hope there is a solution to that soon!

I came across another cool work-around for watching You Tube over the Roku (you can do so on the Apple TV already). I did this and it worked great, similar to the AirPlay feature:

http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57575819-285/how-to-watch-youtube-videos-on-roku/

Recommend you watch all 6 episodes of Inside Combat Rescue!


149 posted on 04/08/2013 10:27:29 AM PDT by castowell (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I still like having the original media as a backup and as a source of high quality rips. I don’t want to buy locked down digital files and don’t want to download illegal files.

I don’t mind streaming some stuff but what is available to stream today may not be available next month or next year.

I’ll keep buying media as long as they sell it. I just store it in a closet in the basement instead of in the living room.


150 posted on 04/08/2013 10:35:15 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: dangerdoc

The backup issue is a good one.

The streaming issue is as well.

Keeping media is a good strategy, especially if you’re younger.

I’m at a stage in my life when possessions don’t mean as much as they once did.


151 posted on 04/08/2013 11:47:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: markomalley

We’re all subsidizing 494 liberal channels so we can watch the 6 channels we enjoy. When FoxNews moves to Hulu I’m kissing cable goodbye... maybe even sooner...


152 posted on 04/08/2013 12:21:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Ronin
Last month, the Nielsen Co. started labeling people in this group "Zero TV" households, because they fall outside the traditional definition of a TV home. There are 5 million of these residences in the U.S., up from 2 million in 2007.

I'll bet the demographics of 'Zero TV' groups are the folks advertisers would drool over... Cable's making a big mistake forcing everyone to buy 500 channels when we only want to watch a few...

153 posted on 04/08/2013 12:31:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: markomalley
0-TV since 1999...
154 posted on 04/08/2013 3:20:47 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: reformedliberal
We have noticed that the Brit and Scandinavian shows seem to be low key, show real-looking people instead of glossy Hollywood constructs. People live in smaller homes that still seem more spacious/less cluttered and dress down compared to American actors. The personal issues displayed are more in line with reality, as well, instead of being hyped to present some current PC concern.

We have noticed and appreciate the same things in British TV.

Also, Brit Christmas specials actually mention the birth of Jesus Christ. Over here, they're only ever about vague feelings of family time and giving. Christ is persona non grata on American TV.

155 posted on 04/08/2013 4:11:15 PM PDT by EricT. (The Republican Party is a friend to conservatives the way Pakistan is an ally in the War On Terror.)
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To: icwhatudo

I have the Xfinity router for my internet and used it when I had TV. I couldn’t get this to work for me. I tried running it through a digital to analog converter box since my TV isn’t digital (HDMI capable).


156 posted on 04/08/2013 7:43:27 PM PDT by castowell (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: castowell

I split the cable just prior to my wireless router and ran one end to the router for internet, the other to my digital TV. I get, without paying for cable, all my local channels, Fox news, Ion, and some other stuff-about 25-30 channels total in digital quality. At first I thought it was BS but apparently when you cancel cable tv, but still pay for internet-since they use the same wire they are unable to fully block the cable tv signal.


157 posted on 04/09/2013 5:45:35 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: icwhatudo

Ah, got it. I’ll give it a try. Thanks for clearing it up for me!


158 posted on 04/09/2013 6:35:00 AM PDT by castowell (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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