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NRA tactics erode post-Newtown support for gun-control measures
The Washington Post ^ | Apr. 5, 2013 | Tom Hamburger

Posted on 04/06/2013 9:57:48 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

Sen Mark Begich declared a “sea change” in the politics of gun control immediately after the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., telling his local newspaper that he would not hesitate to buck the powerful National Rifle Association.

Over the past two weeks, while Congress has been in recess, Begich said he was approached repeatedly by constituents who echoed NRA views, telling him not to, in his words, “mess with our gun rights” or “ban anything.”

The NRA’s recent successes on Capitol Hill — as well as a string of victories in state legislatures across the country — demonstrate the effectiveness of the group’s strategy to overcome a post-Newtown tilt toward gun control. The organization has drafted and circulated legislation, mobilized its members and continued to put pressure on politically vulnerable lawmakers.

“The NRA is one of the most important groups in my state,” said Begich, one of several Democrats from conservative states who are up for reelection next year.

But even gun-control advocates acknowledge that the NRA is getting the better of them, both in Congress and state capitals across the country.

The NRA’s congressional operation is so effective that one of the gun lobby’s most outspoken critics, Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), initially signed on as a sponsor of the NRA-supported background check bill. Blumenthal said he had no direct contact with the NRA when he signed on to the measure but had been drawn by the idea of a bipartisan initiative to improve background checks.

On Friday, Blumenthal withdrew his support, saying in an interview that he was no longer comfortable with the bill because of “serious unintended consequences” related to provisions governing the mentally ill.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; barfalert; connecticut; guncontrol; markbegich; newtown; nra; richardblumenthal; secondamendment
Republican state Rep. Tony Cornish said he received 2,897 e-mails about the bills while they were being considered last month. “Only five were in favor,” he said.
1 posted on 04/06/2013 9:57:48 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

The communist Newtown “tactics” need to be eroded. There are still too many Americans living in this country and we all still believe in liberty and freedom. We aren’t ready for the chains of communism yet.


2 posted on 04/06/2013 10:00:32 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: EXCH54FE

Maybe the NRA is ‘getting the better of them’ because the NRA is right and they’re full of bull...


3 posted on 04/06/2013 10:02:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: EXCH54FE

NRA == another kind of community organizer.

A kind that liberals don’t like too much.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 10:04:12 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: EXCH54FE

” Sen Mark Begich declared a “sea change” in the politics of gun control immediately after the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., telling his local newspaper that he would not hesitate to buck the powerful National Rifle Association. “

The intent is right there. Alaska better fire this asshole.


5 posted on 04/06/2013 10:05:03 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: EXCH54FE

Doesn’t the NRA have many members who vote?


6 posted on 04/06/2013 10:09:35 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: EXCH54FE
Republican state Rep. Tony Cornish said he received 2,897 e-mails about the bills while they were being considered last month. “Only five were in favor,” he said.

Democrats are perfectly happy to commit voter fraud, so I wouldnt be surprised if this was a case of Democrat email fraud.

7 posted on 04/06/2013 10:13:24 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: EXCH54FE
If gun-grabbers are making headway, it's a upwelling of popular support. If gun-rights folks beat them back, it's tactics.

Typical liberal spin.

8 posted on 04/06/2013 10:21:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: EXCH54FE

The NRA is only an echo of our voices on supporting and defending the most important Amendment to the Constitution...the 2nd and it’s protection of our God given Right of self defense...........

Go ahead Democrats.... push through gun control like you did Obamacare and see what happens......Whatever it is will be good for the country and bad for you!

Alaska is due for another new Senator (well actually 2 new Senators, but one will have to wait.)


9 posted on 04/06/2013 10:21:57 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: EXCH54FE

The real success of the NRA will be after total confiscation on Government. Beware, what these jackasses are doing may eventually bite them in the as@.


10 posted on 04/06/2013 10:32:08 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: EXCH54FE

Yeah yeah, it’s the eeeevul NRA that’s doing it. It’s not the voters reading this crap legislation and realizing what’s in it and the consequences of it. No...

Heh heh heh. I love the sound of the socialist gun-grabbers wailing and gnashing their teeth.


11 posted on 04/06/2013 10:34:08 AM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: Paladin2

They had better all get out and vote as well as encourage their relatives and neighbors to get out and vote for gun rights. Gun owners could volunteer for gun supporting politicians by knocking on doors and making phone calls. The Dems have their machines of government workers and cronies, it is time that gun owners and other patriots get their own “machine” together. Organization is power.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 11:00:43 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Logical me

Image the police going door to door trying to confiscate guns and ammo. The door would be locked so they would have to knock down doors with battering rams, neighbors would see this, not a very good poster for the gun-grabbing politicians. When the police are battering down the doors, neighboors could video this and display it on you-tube. Image thousands of these videos all over you-tube. Don’t shoot ‘em with a gun, shoot ‘em with a camera.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 11:06:28 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

This is part of the strategy I advocate. A lone family can’t fight the state, so your household firearms are pretty much forfeit, with or without bloodshed.
But, when the word gets out, look for some of these raids to not go like the state would want them to, as people will be ready for them.


14 posted on 04/06/2013 11:16:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: EXCH54FE
Truth is any Democrat is a danger to the 2nd amendment!!
15 posted on 04/06/2013 11:25:06 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Viennacon

Oh how so many of us would love to do so! Problem is Anchorage and the other south central towns along with Juneau. Government dependency thrives there!


16 posted on 04/06/2013 11:25:36 AM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: lowbridge

If I understand correctly what happened here, Cornish received 2,897 E-Mails regarding gun control bills under consideration. He received 5 E-Mails in FAVOR of gun control, and 2,892 E-Mails AGAINST gun control. If there was Democrat fraud here, the 5 E-Mails he received in favor of gun control would have come from one person.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 11:34:32 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: EXCH54FE
Elite liberals think there's two groups in this issue: one group wants to save children and one wants children murdered.

We kind of agree on that - but we think their silliness and lack factual understanding puts them into the ‘wanting children murdered’ group.

We want to save children - they want to grab guns.

Liberals want to 'feel' good about themselves - liberals use children's deaths to showcase how much the 'feel'... It doesn't matter to them if their ideas work it matters if their ideas make them feel superior ...

If we point out to liberals 'gun free zones' are where killers go to do killings - that the Batman killer drove PAST 4 or 5 theater's that did NOT ban guns to arrive at a 'gun free zone' to do his slaughter - they yawn. Facts are so tiresome for them.... They ‘feel’ it's us. Well, their useful idiots feel that way. Liberal elites at the top - folks running places like Chicago and Detroit don't care about the lives of non-liberal elites, they just want to take away guns.

If the Washington Post wants to stay in business they need to hire people who can think better than they write.

18 posted on 04/06/2013 11:35:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: EXCH54FE
Elite liberals think there's two groups in this issue: one group wants to save children and one wants children murdered.

We kind of agree on that - but we think their silliness and lack factual understanding puts them into the ‘wanting children murdered’ group.

We want to save children - they want to grab guns.

Liberals want to 'feel' good about themselves - liberals use children's deaths to showcase how much the 'feel'... It doesn't matter to them if their ideas work it matters if their ideas make them feel superior ...

If we point out to liberals 'gun free zones' are where killers go to do killings - that the Batman killer drove PAST 4 or 5 theater's that did NOT ban guns to arrive at a 'gun free zone' to do his slaughter - they yawn. Facts are so tiresome for them.... They ‘feel’ it's us. Well, their useful idiots feel that way. Liberal elites at the top - folks running places like Chicago and Detroit don't care about the lives of non-liberal elites, they just want to take away guns.

If the Washington Post wants to stay in business they need to hire people who can think better than they write. Tom Hamburger - let's put some thought into this...

19 posted on 04/06/2013 11:36:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: GOPJ

I wonder how liberals will try to square their “protect the children” mantra with the belief of other liberals in “post birth abortion.” Post birth abortion can only mean that the mother wanted an abortion. So the baby in born breathing and crying. And then they murder it.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 11:48:48 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: MrB

Viva Youtube! :^D


21 posted on 04/06/2013 11:57:21 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: ontap
True, the Democrats have been making it clear for 40 years where they stand on gun rights. They have even gone to the courts with their tricky lawyer speak trying to make the case that the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee the right to individuals to bear arms, only to “militias”. How disingenuous is that.
22 posted on 04/06/2013 12:02:49 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Enterprise

The five e-mail Cornish received in favor of gun-grabbing were sent by Mark Kelly, Michael Bloomberg, Joe Biden, Carolyn Maloney and Rahm Emanuel.


23 posted on 04/06/2013 12:09:07 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

LOL!!!


24 posted on 04/06/2013 12:11:54 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Stupid Conn.....And how many babies were slaughtered via abortion when this ahole govenor signed his sweeping gun law!!! I bet all the school kids feel real safe because of this.


25 posted on 04/06/2013 12:12:27 PM PDT by 1217Chic
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks EXCH54FE. Somebody forgot the Barf Alert in the title, but anyway:
“The NRA is one of the most important groups in my state,” said Begich, one of several Democrats from conservative states who are up for reelection next year... one of the gun lobby’s most outspoken critics, Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), initially signed on as a sponsor of the NRA-supported background check bill. Blumenthal said he had no direct contact with the NRA when he signed on to the measure but had been drawn by the idea of a bipartisan initiative to improve background checks. On Friday, Blumenthal withdrew his support, saying in an interview that he was no longer comfortable with the bill because of “serious unintended consequences” related to provisions governing the mentally ill.
IOW, Blumenthal wanted a fig leaf for his next reelection and was for it before he was against it.


26 posted on 04/06/2013 12:49:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Good.


27 posted on 04/06/2013 1:09:40 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: EXCH54FE
LOOK at it this way....be sensible...... as a tribute to our sadness over the unfairness victims of gun violence have had to bear... Don't WE have a duty to confiscate the weapons of self protection the rest of us who are still alive still stubbornly and wrongly hold on to?

....Yes! This would be right it would show to all how bad we feeeeel that this happened to those wronged......Furthermore aint it right WE take the same chance of being slaughtered as THEY had to take? THEY had no guns why should WE have them?..

....IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT THAT SOME SHOULD NOT HAVE THINGS AND GET MURDERED WHILE OTHERS JUST HAVE THEM AND NOT BE MURDERED....FAIR IS FAIR!...Who in the world could argue against such fairness....this is good.


28 posted on 04/06/2013 1:11:56 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: EXCH54FE

Documentation File on the harmful impact of the Counterculture of Obamanation on America.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 1:25:55 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Enterprise
I wonder how liberals will try to square their “protect the children” mantra with the belief of other liberals in “post birth abortion.” Post birth abortion can only mean that the mother wanted an abortion. So the baby in born breathing and crying. And then they murder it.

I don't believe liberals care about protecting children. It doesn't square with who they are... they're pushing an agenda... disaster's just part of their power play.

It reminds me off all those 'charities' - groups that quickly put out TV ads about national and international disasters to raise money - but somehow that money NEVER gets to the victims. It's the same liberal elite types that run both scams.

And the press never has time to look into those scams...

30 posted on 04/06/2013 2:26:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: EXCH54FE

The Washington Compost doesn’t get it. People are not following the NRA’s lead, people are pushing the NRA to do the right thing. People don’t belong to the NRA because they are brain washed. It is similar to Rush and his listeners.


31 posted on 04/06/2013 2:28:38 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: EXCH54FE

Gee - Did they ever consider that the NRA has success lobbying, because of the huge numbers of registered voters that agree with the NRA on the importance of civil rights, including the right to bear arms?


32 posted on 04/06/2013 2:31:16 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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constituents who echoed NRA views,

Translation: NRA is a bad influence......

Reality: NRA echoing the views of its constituents......

33 posted on 04/06/2013 2:33:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Enterprise; lowbridge
He received 5 E-Mails in FAVOR of gun control, and 2,892 E-Mails AGAINST gun control.

That's how I read it too.

FMCDH(BITS)

34 posted on 04/06/2013 2:34:11 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Enterprise
...the baby in born breathing and crying. And then they murder it.

Abortion....it's for the children.

< /libs>

35 posted on 04/06/2013 2:55:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cradle of freedom
“Image thousands of these videos all over you-tube. Don’t shoot ‘em with a gun, shoot ‘em with a camera.”

...and then you shoot them to make certain the JBTs will never do it again. When enough JBTs don't return, they'll be less willing to bother folks. They might just turn on their masters that have sent them to certain deaths.

36 posted on 04/06/2013 3:44:48 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: EXCH54FE

Hey washington compost......the NRA is us. Me!


37 posted on 04/06/2013 5:59:49 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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