Skip to comments.Mormon Democrats announce new national, state organizations
Posted on 04/04/2013 8:26:04 PM PDT by Colofornian
SALT LAKE CITY Mormon Democrats announced a new national organization Thursday with chapters in eight states joining the Utah State Democratic Party's year-old LDS Dems Caucus.
The Florida-based head of LDS Democrats of America, Robert Taber, said the organization is intended to counter the perception that "there's only one way to be involved in political life as a good Mormon and that's as a Republican."
The LDS Church itself has a long-standing policy of political neutrality.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is neutral in matters of party politics, church spokesman Scott Trotter said.
Taber, who also leads the organization's Florida chapter, said during a conference call to make the announcement that there is a "long and rich tradition" of Mormons participating in the Democratic Party.
But Taber, the former head of Mormons for Obama, the LDS group that backed President Barack Obama's re-election, said it's become harder over the past four decades for Mormons to be Democrats.
"Something we found is that among many Latter-day Saints, a Democrat is a four-letter word, and Republican is just the way things are," Taber said, describing LDS Democrats as suffering from "feelings of isolation."
He said the national organization, as well as the chapters in Arizona, California, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Ohio, Texas and Washington, D.C., is a place for their "coming out and saying, 'We're Latter-day Saints, and we're Democrats.'"
State Democratic Party Chairman Jim Dabakis said the caucus is a result of the party acknowledging it needs Mormons, who make up about 72 percent of voters in a state where most elected offices are held by Republicans.
The caucus gained publicity outside Utah for hosting an event featuring the nation's best-known Mormon Democrat, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, at September's Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C...
(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...
Utah's very roots were Democrat.
Why? Because the Democrats in the 19th century opposed the anti-polygamy Congressional legislation in the 1860s, 1870s, and 1880s.
Utah statehood arrived in 1896. Per Website content no longer updated, www.media.utah.edu, William Jennings Bryan drew more than 80% of the vote; a variety of Democrats to state and local office were elected then as well. That same year, William H. King was elected to Congress and the Democratic legislature selected Joseph L. Rawlins to serve as U. S. Senator.
1898: Utah Democrats elected B. H. Roberts to Congress although he was denied his seat because of his practice of plural marriage...Roberts took a THIRD wife around 1893...almost three years AFTER the "manifesto" calling for brakes to be applied to polygamy. Roberts was eventually replaced by William H. King in a special April 1900 election.
Previous year (1897): In the Utah state Legislature assuming office 39 in the Utah House of Reps in 1897 were Democrats, only 3 were Republicans & 3 were Populists. In the state Senate, it was a 17-0 shutout for the Democrats (plus one populist).
By 1900, the parties became balanced, and then the Democrats dropped off for a while in Utah as Republicans Teddy Roosevelts ways carried the national day...By the 1920s, Utah elected a three-term Democratic senator...
From: http://www.allaboutmormons.com/misconceptions_mormons_politics.php : During most of the 19th century, Utah was polarized along local rather than national party lines. Two local parties dominated the political scene: the Mormon Peoples Party and the Gentile Liberal Party. When Mormons did think in terms of national politics, they were almost universally Democrat, as the Republicans opposed Utah statehood. Brigham Young was a life-long Democrat. In order to gain the senates approval for statehood, Utah was required to normalize its political allegiances. The Church disbanded the Mormon Peoples Party but feared that a mass Mormon migration to the Democratic Party would displease Republican senators. Church leaders sent Apostle John Henry Smith to visit LDS congregations. It was possible to be a faithful Mormon and a Republican, he explained to the amazement of many LDS faithful. In 1893, the Church even asked some specific families to become Republicans, a move that would be unimaginable today.
Colorornian ... I swear you can turn a story about a dog crossing the road in Utah nto an anti-mormon rant!
So .... there’s actually Mormon Democrats? After 52 years in the LDS Church, I’ve actually met about a dozen.
I’m so glad there isn’t any Evangelical Democrats! How’d you manage that? And if there is, I’m sure that you wouldn’t hesitate to post about them ...
...since afterall, I’m sure that your hearts is freeeeee of any bigotry or bias.
IMO anyone who does not adhere to the doctrine of their faith is an ‘INO’. There are MINOS, and CINOS, and JINOS. Why do we even care about them? They’re morons. Their religion is liberalism, whatever they say their religion is.
I always thought the Reed Smoot hearing (beginning in 1903) was the event that doomed the Democrat standing with the Mormon Church.
You will recall that it concerned the seating of Mr. Smoot, a non-polygamous Mormon. Before it was over, the Rats had called President Joseph F. Smith (Joseph's nephew) as a witness (who frankly admitted that he had never received any personal revelations from Christ and never knew anybody who had), and had uncovered widespread practice of polygamy (despite solemn promises that it had been stopped) -- leading to the Second (this time we really mean it when we promise we're going to stop it) Manifesto.
The Saints have not forgiven the Rat Party for that debacle to this very day.
Tep, the source for this article is the DesNews, owned by the Mormon church. If you don't want them publishing stuff like this 'cause you interpret it as an "anti-Mormon rant" put out by the Mormon church itself, then just complain DI-rect to the source...or, better yet, stop giving $ to them!
“Utah’s very roots were Democrat.”
So was the Deep South’s. How is that working out for ya?
And the Deep South's roots was racism. How is that workin' out for ya?
[Point: We all know the transformation that has occurred in the South; and we know the political changes that have taken place in Utah; the point I'm making about Utah Territory & early Utah statehood is that Utah is starting to creep back to those days...now if you want to point out that the Deep South is starting to creep back to its 19th century days as some sort of "parallel," be my guest...but it'll be up to you to supply some facts on that estimation]
Hey, I just wrote to Harry Reid and thanked him. For years ( since High School actually) I wondered just who the Son’s of Perdition were, because none were ever identified to me. But since I was taught what they did to earn this lofty distinction, it was easy to see that Harry was one of them! Why he hasn’t been excommunicated is beyond most Mormons in California that I know. I just don’t understand how a man who got his financial stake from the Nevada whore houses is still a member!
Moron democrat: the mother of all contradictions.
“After 52 years in the LDS Church, Ive actually met about a dozen.”
FWIW, When David O. McKay was president of the LDS Church, he openly endorsed Richard Nixon over JFK, I heard him say it.
Mormons are overwhelmingly conservative. Utah is the most reliable Republican state in the union. Only Salt Lake City has succumbed to the RATs, and I guess like other places that infestation has it’s genesis in the Northeastern States by way of California.
Hey, the BYU elite gave Harry a special platform to tell ALL BYU students & faculty the following:
October 2007: Heres the FReeper story on that Reid Gets Warm Reception at BYU: Sen. Reid told BYU students: "I am a Democrat because I am a Mormon, not in spite of it."
(Perhaps one of the BYU freshmen in the audience then was Kelsey Jorgenson: I respect him. I think that he basically does do a good job of representing Mormons in general, said Kelsey Jorgenson, a BYU student from Las Vegas. He is a political leader after all, and I think he puts on a good public face. I think its a good thing that he is a Democrat and a Mormon. (BYU Daily Universe, Jan. 13, 2010)
I don’t get the Republican Mormons. I am with Harry on this. If you are Mormon you should be supporting Democrats at least nationally. Democrats are going to bring back polygamy and democrats are going to make more programs to support those polygamous families. The rest of the political games doesn’t really matter to Mormons. The sons don’t go to war after school they go on missions. Abortions are also fine in Mormonism, after all the spirit just goes back to the pre-existance to return again. What is there left?
Without being snarky I don’t believe that you only know of 12 democrat Mormons. I have more than that in my family between inlaws and cousins.
Who'd a thunk it!
Ding, ding, ding we have a winner! You’ve started the Mormon bashing all by yourself. I’m not happy with Mormonism, but you take the cake pal! Must be one of those Born Again Christians who hate everything and everyone who doesn’t share their belief system. Because you just know “you are so right.” Loved your candidates for US Senate last election. (Mourdock and Akin) Why, let’s bring back snake handling, it will be real hit with the voters!!
You should be banned for your hatred.
Your a Christian like Nancy Pelosi is a Christian.
All your posts do is validate what the morons in Fresno said of FR
‘We’re Latter-day Saints, and we’re Democrats.’”
“I’m a Mormon and I’m a Democrat”
Reid showed up to support the Mormon Democrat candidate for mayor of Pocatello a few years ago. The ward building closest to city hall was decked out with banners and balloons welcoming Reid. That would not have been permitted at my ward building in San Diego. The LDS community in the Pocatello area is very old and closely knit. They certainly operate differently from my experience in San Diego.
My son went to Kuwait and Iraq with the Marines. Where did your son serve?
Therefore, by your own standards, you are to be "banned"
The Rats are running low on dough! Their printing press is about to crash. They need to grab some money from somewhere to keep buying votes. The Mormon Church with its supposed tens of billions in assets is one fat plumb. And that's what's left!
I'll bet THAT makes for some interesting discussions around the dinner table!
Sounds like a LOT of folks either do NOT know their RELIGION or do NOT know Baraks values!
(Probably both. As Rush would say, "Low information voters."
They've VOTED for Mormonism firat; so I guess failing to choose the right person to elect would just come naturally; too.)
Where is the hatred?
teppe; I KNOW that when things are brought up about Mormonism in these threads, directed specifically towards you to comment on; you'll disappear from that thread.
I dont get the Republican Mormons.
Does this make teppe a Mino?
MORMON in name only?
A doctrine of Mormonism is found, ironically, in DOCTRINES and Covenants 132:58-66; and it is non-adhered to be MOST Mormons.
Only the TRULY faithful do what it says.
Dog crossing the road alert!!!
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.
The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.
This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."
Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.
Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'
August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:
(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,
"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.
According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.
Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:
"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).
When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:
"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."
When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)
Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.
I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.
At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parentson the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.
One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.
(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)
YOU should be ashamed for ACCUSING someone with NO proof.
Don't you just HATE it when HATRED is exposed on FR???
bandwidth hogging drivel.
I hoped your 15 minutes was up after you helped elect Obama. Guess I was wrong
The LDS of California do some STRANGE things...
Quotes from MORMON leaders?
They should be pure as GOLD to you!
But they are merely embarrassing now; eh?
The words of the Mormon “prophets” and the LDS doctrine is indeed drivel. There maybe hope for you yet Bert...
MINOs can't get the SIMPLEST 'doctrine' straight!
|The Official Scriptures of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
© 2006 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.
Really, did you read the story?
This article is from a mormon production, about mormons, and democrat mormons.
Funny really, I would guess based on my mormon family that there are more democrats than republicans, but doesn’t really matter.....it’s how they vote which is interesting.
You got it! And then there is that If then Else woman posting extended excerpts from the Mormon literature as IF she were promoting Mormonism, but no, she’s another hater.
A Conservative respects other people’s faiths, and doesn’t engage in fruitless debates.
I will play. My sons are not old enough. I served in Bosnia and was a reservist for a few years but never got deployed during GWOT.
I just call it like I see it. The duplicity in the Mormon church is so horrendous. I really could not understand their outward support for prop 8 in CA. It blows my mind that they would stand up for traditional marriage. True LDS people know that polygamy is supposed to come back. Why would they block the very law that would allow them to operate openly? It would be like a lion advocating a vegan lifestyle. It is that crazy.
“I just call it like I see it. The duplicity in the Mormon church is so horrendous.”
You hate Mormons! Why don’t you just come out and say it! I’d also like to know just how “you know” Mormons can’t wait for polygamy to be legal. I’m not particularly happy with a couple of other religions ( and that includes the Mormons), but I don’t trash them making my points. In today’s world, you could to a whole lot worse than being a Mormon. At least they believe in the family unit. But you go right ahead and continue your spew. It’s your right to do it, as distasteful as it is.
My ward in Mira Mesa (San Diego) was full of Navy pilots from Miramar as well as some Navy doctors who were called to serve out of the country when things heated up for Desert Storm. There's plenty of LDS people serving in the military. They aren't dodging service to go on missions.
Wow, it is easier to just scream hate than it is to deal with the issues...
“Wow, it is easier to just scream hate than it is to deal with the issues...”
Just what “issues”? Mormons teamed up with the Catholics here in California to try and preserve the sanctity of marriage (Prop 8), but you seem to think that they are just foaming at the mouth to start plural marriage again. Maybe you should consider going after the Jewish judges that have been wreaking havoc on our society like the Gay Jew, Vaughn Walker who overturned Prop 8, or Mariana Pfaelzer the jewish judge who overturned Prop 187 a few years ago to force the citizens of this state to support illegal aliens. Then there’s Bloomberg, Feinstein, Emmanuel each doing his or her best to drive this country to Marxism! Jews represent about 2% of our population, but thanks their Secular Progressive/Marxist philosophy, the are doing real, permanent damage to our society. When you look at what they are doing, the Mormons aren’t even on the radar screen.
Mormon Democrats - Two mistakes
“Yes” would suffice and required less typing...