North Korea seen moving mid-range missile to east coast: reports

Reuters ^ | 2013/04/03

[Hot Tabasco]

should I be hiding under my bed?

Pack up the babies, grab the old ladies and head out on a road trip......

[muawiyah]

Un has no idea what he's doing.

The NK military commanders probably don't know either.

[jersey117]

Benghazi Hillary is just as bad.

[Venturer]

If the thing has a decent range why do they have to move it?

[newnhdad]

I hope the SoKo forces have eyes on the NoKo airports because if there are a lot of pale-faced ruskies buying one-way tickets home, the cr@p is about to fly IMO.

[darrellmaurina]

7 posted on 4/3/2013 9:29:41 PM by Sarah Barracuda: "I live on the Left Coast of California..should I be hiding under my bed?"

I think your nutty neighbors are more of a nuisance to you than the nutty North Koreans.

That applies today. If the North Koreans get away with this I'm not sure anyone knows how far they will try to push things. Given enough time, they are the hostile government most likely to be both willing and able to build a nuclear missile that could reach the United States.

[bert]

I had that experience except the rocket climbed 50 ‘ before heading sideways three hundred yards into the picnic grounds.

The rocket, alderan’s revenge, was handed to me by an irate park ranger who more or less said “ stop that crap”

[darrellmaurina]

49 posted on 4/3/2013 10:27:49 PM by Prince of Space: “Great. My daughter is going to Japan at the end of the month for 3 weeks to visit a friend. Now I’m totally freaked out about her trip. Tell me I’m over-reacting, please.”

If you talk to South Koreans, many will tell you that North Korea routinely yowls, howls, and makes threats they will not and probably cannot carry out.

Some will also say, as TikerLikesRooster has said, that what Kim Jong-un is doing has gone well off the long-established choreography of North Korean blustering.

My view is that very similar things were said about Adolf Hitler in the 1920s and early 1930s. He wrote what he planned to do in Mein Kampf and then proceeded to carry it out. However, many in Germany and elsewhere in Europe considered him to be an inconsequential buffoon — until the SA and SS started killing political opponents and the tanks started rolling over the borders to other countries.

Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il were both “known commodities” with a long history of bluster and minimal followup in most cases.

That may prove to be true of Kim Jong-un, but that has not yet been established. What is clear is that North Korea has major problems and Kim Jong-un must do something to fix the mess. One of the few tools in his toolbox is the military and it looks like he may actually be willing to use it.

A further factor is that Kim Jong-un’s rule is likely not yet secure. As the world's only hereditary Stalinist state, North Korea acts in some ways more like the monarchies of the ancient Korean “Hermit Kingdom” than like a traditional Communist nation, and they've just had one “king” die to be replaced by a new “king” who has at least one potential competitor, a brother who was originally favored for the succession but currently is under the control of the Chinese in Monaco.

For a very long time, the Kim family has promoted a military-first policy, creating a different dynamic from a traditional Communist country in which the Army and the Communist Party are two competing poles of influence. I don't think anyone yet knows how much control Kim actually has over the North Korean military. Maybe Kim himself doesn't know. That makes Kim dangerous for the same reason that a caged dog or rat or even kitten can be dangerous; people in fear of their survival may act in unpredictable and even irrational ways.

Here's the bottom line: my guess, for whatever it's worth, is that Kim Jong-un is new, he needs to establish his authority, he sees weakness in the White House, and wants to act before the new South Korean president (who is the daughter of a former South Korean general and strongman, probably South Korea's toughest-ever president) has time to establish her own authority in Seoul.

[jehardy]

Hopefully, lard A$$ is just having another temper tantrum.

[SIRTRIS]

I thought you guys sleep on water beds laying on the floor.

[darrellmaurina]

I typed "Monaco" when I meant "Macao" in my post with regard to Kim Jong-un's brother, Kim Jong-nam, who was originally favored for the succession to lead North Korea, but was "found out" while using a false passport in an attempt to visit the Japanese Disneyland. Given the precedents of ancient dynastic politics, as long as Kim Jong-nam remains alive and remains under Chinese control in Macao, he could be a threat to Kim Jong-un's rule during this transition phase.

If the Chinese decide they don't want to lead with Kim Jong-un anymore and want to install a Korean to head the North Korean government rather than letting North Korea collapse and be absorbed by South Korea, Kim Jong-nam is the logical candidate.

All of this is speculation, however. I don't think anyone really understands what is going on in North Korea, and I'm not convinced that even Kim Jong-un understands or is in control of what is happening.

Also, here's a graphic that may indicate why the North Korean military is not something to be taken lightly.

[tsowellfan]

Expect incoming missile heading toward(or trying to head toward) West Coast. I think the Fat Boy has to do this if he intends to climb down safely after upping the political stake so high.

At the very least I would expect to see an invasion of South Korea.

[ConservativeMan55]

I completely agree!

This is the same guy that loves the Bulls and had Dennis Rodman over. I don’t think he’d want to risk annilation at the beginning of his term. He’s only 26.

I don’t think he’s near as crazy as his old man. His old man had LOST his mind and was capable of ANYTHING!

I don’t think Lil Kims running the show. By the way.. does anyone know where he was while his father was in charge?

Was he in North Korea? Part of the government? Or was he abroad somewhere?

[Windflier]

does anyone know where he was while his father was in charge? Was he in North Korea? Part of the government? Or was he abroad somewhere?

I hear he went to school in Europe somewhere (Switzerland?).

He's got a brother too. From what I've read of him, he's living outside NoKo, and disaffected from the family and the country. Very western from what I can tell.

[Jack Hydrazine]

Good movie about the Korean War.

“71: Into The Fire”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/71:_Into_the_Fire

The film is based on a true story of a group of 71 undertrained and undergunned student-soldiers of South Korea during the Korean War, who were mostly killed on August 11, 1950, during the Battle of P’ohang-dong. For 11 hours, they defended P’ohang-dong girls’ middle school, a strategic point for safeguarding the Nakdong River, from an attack by overwhelming North Korean forces.

These 71 teenagers, most of whom had never shot a gun before, managed to hold out against the advancing North Korean army for 11 hours. Their heroic defense of the area was actually a turning point in the Korean War. 71: Into the Fire tells the story of these student-soldiers over the course of that fateful day.

Oh Jang-beom is forced into becoming the leader of the student-soldier unit, simply because he is one of only three of the students who has combat experience (his combat experience was ammunition running between stations - not actual fighting). The rest of the student-soldiers have not even fired a weapon - that’s how little training these young men had. This lack of experience and training makes the story even more amazing and inspiring.

100,000 South Korean students volunteered to fight in the war. This film was made as a commemoration of their sacrifices and was released during the 60th anniversary of the Korean War.

It’s posted on GoogTube with sub-titles!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGfOK5ZHnP4

Maybe the world will end similar to this except with the NorKs starting it.
http://www.endofworld.net/

[ConservativeMan55]

Yep! I read the brother was not picked to lead North Korea because he’s “into men”

[Windflier]

I read the brother was not picked to lead North Korea because he’s “into men”

A likely story. More probably he hates the regime and what they've done to his country.

[AmericanInTokyo]

I give him six months perhaps before he is removed in a bloody internecine coup, the details of which will only leak out, and which will only be known in full when that hellhole on earth, the illegitimate DPRK, falls once and for all. There is no honor among thieves (let alone tyrants and murderers). This provocation to taunt the US, S. Korea and Japan (and the world community), at age 29, could well be Fat Turd’s first and last hurrah. He is defecating bricks out of sheer nervousness and is in way over his head no doubt, that is for sure, he has tightened his ring of personal security to levels I think never witnessed in the regimes of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il. Tanks heavily fortified around all his personal installations, battle fatigue (automatic long guns, helmets) for personnel around him within a 3 meter reach, you name it. I suspect he is wearing a vest as well, but won’t save him if an expert can place a bead and then can get a double tap on his forehead. Poor, stupid kid. He should have known what he was getting into, and given it up to Older Brother to worry about. Raw thirst for power, and papa’s dying favoritism toward the youngest one, over the other two, the “loose cannon on the deck” eldest Jong-nam and the “gender issue challenged” second son, Jong-chol (disregard the one daughter, Kim Sol-song, part of the father’s security detachment during his “on the spot” visits wearing a KPA lieutenant’s uniform).

[AmericanInTokyo]

That was a damned good movie. Saw it!!

[tet68]

Great movie, went from there to “9 platoon” a russian
movie about Afghanistan. Worth watching.
It says it has english subtitles but I couldn’t see any
although you can figure out what’s happening.
Followes a platoon from training to Afghanistan.
Awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbwMuZ7sf-c