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White Men Donít Count
National Review Online ^ | April 1, 2013 | Robert VerBruggen

Posted on 04/01/2013 9:42:05 AM PDT by neverdem

Over at the Washington Post, two “researchers and consultants on social and political issues” argue that American mass shooters are overwhelmingly white males, and that therefore the opinions of white males on what to do about mass shootings should be discounted.

They are correct that the demographics of mass shooters are interesting — certainly, mass shooters differ from other murderers (and from the general population) in various ways. But mass shooters are not as overwhelmingly white as the authors imply, and the conclusions they draw are utterly bizarre.

Frankly, the authors don’t seem to have a very good grasp of the situation. They list Fort Hood — the massacre committed by a pale-skinned man of Palestinian descent named Nidal Hasan, who yelled “Allahu Akbar” — as a white-male rampage. They say that “immigrants with mental health issues are not committing mass shootings in malls and movie theaters,” which might be true, but only because Korean immigrant Seung-Hui Cho targeted a school and Laotian immigrant Chai Vang killed six hunters in the woods.

Nowhere do the authors give the only two numbers that matter: the percentage of mass shootings committed by white males, and the percentage of mass shootings we might normally expect to be committed by white males.

According to liberal journalist David Sirota, “70 percent of mass shooters have been white men in a country where only 30 percent of the population is white men.” Of course, anyone who isn’t a liberal journalist realizes that this has a lot more to do with maleness than with whiteness — a better way to put it is that 70 percent of mass shooters are white males in a country where about 60 percent of potential mass shooters (i.e., males) are white. That’s not exactly a huge discrepancy.

And regardless of the exact degree of the disparity, what does it mean? Here’s what the authors think we’d do if the shooters were black, and they see this as a model for how we should treat white men:

Imagine if African American men and boys were committing mass shootings month after month, year after year. Articles and interviews would flood the media, and we’d have political debates demanding that African Americans be “held accountable.” Then, if an atrocity such as the Newtown, Conn., shootings took place and African American male leaders held a news conference to offer solutions, their credibility would be questionable. The public would tell these leaders that they need to focus on problems in their own culture and communities.

Yes, the idea here is that when it comes to race and crime, Americans frankly assess the numbers and demand racial accountability — except when the criminals are white. I’m not sure this even deserves a response, but take a look at the numbers for murder in general. Blacks are dramatically overrepresented. Has anyone demanded that blacks as a group, not just the individual murderers, be “held accountable”? Has anyone said that black organizations that suggest ways of reducing violence should be scrutinized more heavily than non-black groups that similarly offer solutions? Of course not.

And that’s a good thing — we shouldn’t ignore racial disparities, but we shouldn’t shun entire groups based on statistical trends, either.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; enemedia; fascistmedia; guncontrol; liberalfascism; mediabias; secondamendment; whiteysfault
The title of the article is, "White men have much to discuss about mass shootings."

Here's a quote:

"Unlike other groups, white men are not used to being singled out."

How about. utterly clueless at the Washington Compost? The last 40 years were just a bad dream for white men from their depiction in thw BS media as the bumbling idiot or evil bad guy, or getting the short end at either family court or affirmative action decisions!

1 posted on 04/01/2013 9:42:05 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Unlike other groups, white men are not used to being singled out.

White men are the single most systematically discriminated-against group in our country.

2 posted on 04/01/2013 9:47:37 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: neverdem

FROM THE WASHPOST ARTICLE: “Imagine if African American men and boys were committing mass shootings month after month, year after year.

Yeah, imagine if African American men and boys were committing shootings month after month, year after year. Who could ever imagine something so preposterous.

FROM THE WASHPOST ARTICLE: “Articles and interviews would flood the media, and we’d have political debates demanding that African Americans be “held accountable.”

Hypothetically, if African American men and boys were shooting people regularly, I’m going to guess that the media would go the other direction and try to suppress that information. Call me crazy, but that’s just my guess.

Are these “researchers” actually living in America?


3 posted on 04/01/2013 9:58:13 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

the medium is the message.

truth does not matter.

only a “newspaper” reports white men bad.

the medium is the message.


4 posted on 04/01/2013 10:02:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem

I guess they don’t count drive by shootings where 4 or 5 black or hispanic teenagers are killed or wounded by blacks or hispanics as a “mass shooting”.

If they put drive by shootings into the mix, I suspect the demographics might be a bit different.


5 posted on 04/01/2013 10:05:16 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: neverdem

More and more the Soros paid propaganda machine is demonizing white males. Obamabots must be convinced they have a permanent majority with black, latinoes and welfare women.


6 posted on 04/01/2013 10:15:07 AM PDT by y6162
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To: y6162

Sad part is that almost all of the non-white population in the US believe this to be the truth.


7 posted on 04/01/2013 10:35:50 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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To: Sheapdog

The sadder part is a big percentage of the WHITE population believes this is truth....


8 posted on 04/01/2013 10:38:39 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Sheapdog

The non white and non female part of America are racist sexists who feel entitled to oppress white males.

I ain’t no college freshman who can be oppressed without putting up a fight. Although I do answer like a Pavlovian dog to my wife’s commands with yes dear.


9 posted on 04/01/2013 10:44:59 AM PDT by y6162
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To: neverdem

It’s the Washington Post: Only fags ,liberals and Communists read it anyway.


10 posted on 04/01/2013 10:48:15 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
According to liberal media All mass shooters have been Southern white men who have missing teeth, drive big trucks with oversize tires and flying rebel flags, and beat their wives...

...when they are not having sex with their cousins...




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11 posted on 04/01/2013 10:52:23 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: neverdem

...so are we to exclude Hispanics from Open border laws and discussions?

Are we to exclude blacks from discussions of gang violence?


12 posted on 04/01/2013 10:56:07 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: neverdem
Did he leave out the DC sniper John Allen Muhammad and Lee Malvo, both black?

-PJ

13 posted on 04/01/2013 10:58:05 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Kozak
The sadder part is a big percentage of the WHITE population believes this is truth....

About 4 - 5 million white voters went AWOL last November, IIRC.

14 posted on 04/01/2013 11:09:57 AM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Don’t forget VA Tech.


15 posted on 04/01/2013 11:39:45 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Imagine if African American men and boys were committing mass shootings month after month, year after year.

THEY ARE committing mass shootings. They're just not doing them all at once, in one location. Journalists are completely incapable of critical thinking in 21st Century America. They're not much more than parrots, reading from the Marxist hymn book, retranslated into Democrat Party talking points.

16 posted on 04/01/2013 11:50:49 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: neverdem

American mass shooters are overwhelmingly white males, and that therefore the opinions of white males on what to do about mass shootings should be discounted.


These are the same people who say white people (men included) should not have an opinion on anything that has to do with blacks, hispanics etc..So according to them, whites are not allowed to have an opinion


17 posted on 04/01/2013 12:01:18 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: Personal Responsibility

“These are the same people who say white people (men included) should not have an opinion on anything that has to do with blacks, hispanics etc..So according to them, whites are not allowed to have an opinion”

Yes. To the authors, freedom of speech means: We are free to speak, you are not!


18 posted on 04/01/2013 12:27:57 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

You are quite correct. AA’s who murder whites don’t fit their religion. The media would ignore it or report it with obfuscating gobbledygook only if they had to.


19 posted on 04/01/2013 1:10:38 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: neverdem

What percentage of liberal communists go on shooting sprees?


20 posted on 04/01/2013 1:16:32 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Terry Mross

Colin Ferguson (mass murderer)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Birth name Colin Ferguson
Born (1958-01-14) January 14, 1958 (age 55)
Kingston, Jamaica
Penalty 315 years and eight months to life
Parents Von Herman Ferguson
May Ferguson
Spouse(s) Audrey Warren (1986–1988)
Killings
Date December 7, 1993
Location(s) Merillon Avenue, Garden City, Long Island, New York
Target(s) Commuters
Killed 6
Injured 19
Weapon(s) Ruger P-89 9mm pistol
Motive “Black rage”
Colin Ferguson (born January 14, 1958) is a mass murderer who was convicted of murdering six people and injuring nineteen others on the Long Island Rail Road in Garden City, New York.

On December 7, 1993, as the train pulled into the Merillon Avenue Station, Ferguson pulled out his gun and started firing at passengers. He killed six and wounded nineteen before being stopped by three of the passengers: Kevin Blum, Mark McEntee and Mike O’Connor.


21 posted on 04/01/2013 1:34:59 PM PDT by brookwood (. Bush's First Term 2 million jobs created! - using BLS Household Survey)
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To: neverdem

I can easily count to 160 using two hands.


23 posted on 04/01/2013 6:38:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: neverdem
Yes he did.

I remember the DC shootings as the media in absolute meltdown, yammering on about tarot cards and "white box trucks." Then, the day they caught those two and the country learned the shootings were done by two black Muslim men, the media was all, "Ooohhhhhh.... Look, it's Britney!"

24 posted on 04/01/2013 7:52:02 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: neverdem

I read somewhere that the per capita incidence of Gono for BM’s is 17x that of WM’s:

17 x 100 = 1,700% higher...!

Women be warned.


25 posted on 04/03/2013 7:11:55 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Ferguson, the Long Island train shooter:

He was a poor, black Jamaican, right?

NOPE..!

He was from a really rich Jamaican family, which immigrated. Problem was he REALLY hated working, and he got cut off from his family —bad news.

He tried to pull some disability scam to sponge off NY taxpayers, and he lost his case —still gots ta work. He got REALLY mad.

THAT is why he shot up the train.

Poor...? NOPE.

Just mad and lazy.


26 posted on 04/03/2013 7:16:19 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: neverdem

anyone remember Lee Boyd Malvo ?


27 posted on 04/04/2013 5:10:59 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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