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To: SeekAndFind

Aside from making sure I don’t marry my sister, or first cousin, I can find no reason for the state to be involved at all.

My priest ordained my marriage. Not my mayor.


2 posted on 03/27/2013 7:47:14 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie; All

good for you and how it works for you , I;m sure that blood test from the Govt will make it sure you don’;t marry your sister or cousin..

Cruz yet again speaks up shows no cowardly action.

If only our side had guts like Cruz, Sarah, Col West, Michelle Bachmann , instead we have whiny little pansies who run for cover on issues like this and that only helps the communist agenda to be further pushed.
For anyone thinking this is not a commuinist agenda then look at the rules for communists back in 1963 and they wanted to use a party to push this and they did , the Dem party but now they are geting in the GOP too, by using the sticker slogan of no Govt shold be involved.

Time to purge the GOP of the cowards and infiltrators


6 posted on 03/27/2013 7:54:10 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Noamie
Aside from making sure I don’t marry my sister, or first cousin, I can find no reason for the state to be involved at all.

Lets have a serious conversation:

Devil's Advocate: Why should the state be allowed to prevent you from marrying your sister or first cousin? What if they are infertile? Wouldn't this be a restriction of your pursuit of happiness?

7 posted on 03/27/2013 7:54:18 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama: Government by Freakout)
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To: Noamie

>>>Aside from making sure I don’t marry my sister, or first cousin, I can find no reason for the state to be involved at all.

My priest ordained my marriage. Not my mayor.<<<

Other than preventing you from marrying close relatives or multiple people at the same time or people of the same sex, and handling divorces, all government really does is register marriages, so that the parties of the marriage have proof for legal and tax purposes.

The argument that “government should get out of the marriage business” is false argument becasue government really isn’t in the marriage business any more than it is in the real estate business when it registers property deeds.


8 posted on 03/27/2013 7:54:25 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Noamie

Bingo! This is only a problem because some ‘bright’ legislator decided to put marriage into the tax code to conduct his own social engineering experiment. Government should just stay out! Marriage is a religious practice and the only reason these commie/atheists want to get married is to pay less taxes.


16 posted on 03/27/2013 7:59:54 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Noamie
I can find no reason for the state to be involved at all

1. It will make your culture more dangerous.

2. The state has no interest in your love life.

3. The state has an interest in the potentially procreative unit....mother/father bonded with and rearing the child.

4. Children have a right to their own father and mother.

26 posted on 03/27/2013 8:27:56 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Noamie
My priest ordained my marriage. Not my mayor.

For another person (or group of people) it would be their Muslim Iman, or Bishop Romney, or the priest of the gay goat church, for the atheist it would be himself and the others involved.

27 posted on 03/27/2013 8:28:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: Noamie

Think about this: Once the Courts decide a marriage is no longer between ONE man and ONE woman, there is an ARMY of prolific Muslims here ready to spawn from harems.


45 posted on 03/27/2013 8:53:54 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: Noamie; xzins; wmfights
Aside from making sure I don’t marry my sister, or first cousin, I can find no reason for the state to be involved at all.

What is the State's interest in preventing you from marrying your cousin or sister? Is it merely the chance of producing "defective" children?

If the State can prohibit unhealthy relationships like that, then it can prohibit marriages based on sodomy.

OTOH if a State allows homosexual marriages, then why can't a brother marry his brother or a sister marry a sister, or a father marry his son or a mother marry her daughter?

Those are all homosexual relationships that cannot produce genetically defective children.

91 posted on 03/27/2013 8:09:00 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Noamie
My priest ordained my marriage. Not my mayor.

And your priest ordaining your marriage is great, and the heart of the matter, but that DOES NOT record the act officially for purposes of public action.

Priests solemnize marriages that are already registered by the state. Without state registration in most states, you don't get to be treated as married by employers, governments, law enforcement, etc.

That is NOT saying that the government is "in the marriage business," far from it. The government becomes an officiant for the fact, in the case that the existence of the relationship is contested by an outside party.

In other words, someone can contest the fact that you are married (in the case of inheritance disputes, trials that demand testimony against your spouse, etc.), and the most durable proof you have is the certified document maintained by a government.

104 posted on 03/28/2013 1:40:54 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Noamie

“Aside from making sure I don’t marry my sister, or first cousin, I can find no reason for the state to be involved at all.”

It’s sad that so many don’t undertstand the societal interest and need to support family formation in law, in order to protect children. It’s an unfortunate consequence of decades of media/academy attacks on culture, to the point where even conservatives dont understand the importance of them.

And btw, devils advocate question: Is marrying your first cousin any more wrong or dangerous than gay relationships. if you have the right to marry anyone, why not that?

“My priest ordained my marriage. Not my mayor.”

Clearly you DID register your marriage with the civil authorities if you went ahead and filed taxes as married, bought a house as ‘community property’ etc.


115 posted on 03/29/2013 9:44:24 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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