Skip to comments.Department Of Education Website Quotes Mao Zedong
Posted on 03/24/2013 10:15:25 PM PDT by huac
"...The Kids' Zone of the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) website, part of the Department of Education's Institute of Education Sciences, quotes communist leader Mao Zedong. The NCES is theprimary federal entity for collecting and analyzing data related to education in the U.S. and other nations...."
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Dept. of Education - Arne Duncan, Obama’s pick from Chicago
Anita Dunn - Obama’s pick, loves Mao
Van Jones - Maoist revolutionary and picked by Valerie Jarrett
Mao Christmas ball ornament on White House tree
Do you think we have a pattern here, folks?
The next time you visit the “Red House”, years from now because of sequestration, look for Mao’s portrait in the Lincoln room
Sociopaths don’t care about the consequences of their actions, just that they had the power to see their demands realized. Think an infantile mind of steroids.
The fact that Mao was quoted is not nearly as bad as the fact that they BOTCHED THE QUOTE.
Mao didn’t say that he wanted people to be “satiable in learning”; he said EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE: he wanted people to “insatiable in learning”. (See http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_10.htm for evidence of this assertion.) It’s not a bad sentiment, even if it was expressed by Mao.
Not only are the Dept of “Education” folks commie sympathizers, they are also morons.
Consequences have Elections.
A thinking child is a threat who spoils the harmony of the collective society that is coming.
John Dewey, the designer of Americas public school system.
Liberals love Mao.
In their minds, he was misunderstood, an agrarian reformer. He meant well, but made some mistakes.
The people you listed all likely think they would be much more efficient and humane than Mao.
Well, except for maybe the 40 million or so of us they would have to kill off, and the other 100 million who would need re-education. But to people like Van Jones, that is just a detail.
The quote doesn’t make sense. Satiable is able to be filled/satisfied.
But at least it is consistent. Mao means indoctrination and that’s the purpose of government schools.
Thank you for sharing this reference. Ironically, just this morning I was reading Mao’s writings about applying Sun Tsu’s ‘Art of War” in his revolutionary war. It is very interesting reading. I read these writings as I always seek to step into and understand the mind or our opposition.
Here is an excerpt from your link:
In view of Chang Kuo-tao’s serious violations of discipline, we must affirm anew the discipline of the Party, namely:
(1) the individual is subordinate to the organization;
(2) the minority is subordinate to the majority;
(3) the lower level is subordinate to the higher level; and
(4) the entire membership is subordinate to the central Committee.
Whoever violates these articles of discipline disrupts Party unity. Experience proves that some people violate Party discipline through not knowing what it is, while others, like Chang Kuo-tao, violate it knowingly and take advantage of many Party members’ ignorance to achieve their treacherous purposes. Hence it is necessary to educate members in Party discipline so that the rank and file will not only observe discipline themselves, but will exercise supervision over the leaders so that they, too, observe it, thus preventing the recurrence of cases like Chang Kuo-tao’s. If we are to ensure the development of inner-Party relations along the right lines, besides the four most important articles of discipline mentioned above we must work out a set of fairly detailed Party rules which will serve to unify the actions of the leading bodies at all levels.”
(So much for individual freedom...)
“National consciousness, national self-respect and national self-confidence are not sufficiently developed among the broad masses, the majority of the people are unorganized, China’s military power is weak, the economy is backward, the political system is undemocratic, corruption and pessimism exist, and a lack of unity and solidarity is to be found within the united front; these are among the adverse circumstances. Therefore, Communists must consciously shoulder the great responsibility of uniting the entire nation so as to put an end to all such undesirable phenomena.” (Sounds like he is talking about USA today)
Here is the context of the quote used on the website”
“It is entirely wrong to think that we alone are good and no one else is any good. As for people who are politically backward, Communists should not slight or despise them, but should befriend them, unite with them, convince them and encourage them to go forward. The attitude of Communists towards any person who has made mistakes in his work should be one of persuasion in order to help him change and start afresh and not one of exclusion, unless he is incorrigible.
Communists should set an example in being practical as well as far-sighted. For only by being practical can they fulfil the appointed tasks, and only far-sightedness can prevent them from losing their bearings in the march forward.
Communists should therefore set an example in study; at all times they should learn from the masses as well as teach them. Only by learning from the people, from actual circumstances and from the friendly parties and armies, and by knowing them well, can we be practical in our work and far-sighted as to the future. In a long war and in adverse circumstances, the dynamic energy of the whole nation can be mobilized in the struggle to overcome difficulties, defeat the enemy and build a new China only if the Communists play an exemplary vanguard role to the best of their ability together with all the advanced elements among the friendly parties and armies and among the masses.”
Chang Kuo-tao, also known as Zhang Guotao (November 26, 1897 December 3, 1979) was a founding member and important leader of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and bitter rival to Mao Zedong. During the 1920s he studied in the Soviet Union and became a key contact with the Comintern and organized the CCP labor movement in the United Front with the Guomindang. In 1931, after the Party had been driven from the cities, he established the E-Yu-Wan Soviet. When his armies were driven from the region, he joined the Long March but lost a contentious struggle for party leadership to Mao Zedong. Zhang’s armies then took a different route from Mao’s and were badly beaten by local forces in Gansu. When his depleted forces finally arrived to join Mao in Yan’an, Zhang continued his losing challenge Mao, and left the party in 1938.
Zhang eventually retired to Toronto, Canada, and became a Christian shortly before his death in 1979.
Please provide a source for that quote.
He can't claim credit for the idea, though.
Our schools were modeled after Bismark's Germany, which were designed to produce obedient soldiers and bureaucrats.
"If you want to influence [the student] at all, you must do more than merely talk to him; you must fashion him, and fashion him in such a way that he simply cannot will otherwise than what you wish him to will." --Fichte
Good times, good times.
The another product of the DOE.
Here's the full quote:
You cant make Socialists out of individualists children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society which is coming, where everyone is interdependent. --John Dewey
Dewey didn't want children to learn how to read independently, which is why he re-introduced to Columbia Teachers College "whole language reading," where children are taught to read words as pictographs, as in Chinese, rather than phonetically.
This is a major reason why children graduate from high school without being able to read.
Dewey wanted young children to work together to guess at the meaning of texts. He wasn't interested in the stories or teaching reading. He wanted them to work together, and be "interdependent."
The full story of American Education is far more nefarious.
Asking for a quote source is skeptical?
Yeah, they knew what they were doing. Remember Anita Dunn?
I dunno....I just think some of this B.S. is done by people who have no clue.
I've been in many organizations...that the heads didn't have a clue what the worker bee's were doing....( Not that Dunn wouldn't have approved!! )
I guess my point is....PLENTY of dumb ass "educated idiots" out there...don't really know who Mao was. Same with Che'...and all the other murdering Commies.
If you would kindly search for the source of the quotation you have attributed to John Dewey, it would be most appreciated.
You can skip the following works by John Dewey which I have already searched:
The Child and the Curriculum
China, Japan and the U.S.A.
Present-Day Conditions in the Far East and Their Bearing on the Washington Conference
Essays in the Pragmatic Attitude: The Need for a Recovery of Philosophy
Democracy and Education: an introduction to the philosophy of education
Essays in Experimental Logic
German philosophy and politics
How We Think
Human Nature and Conduct An introduction to social psychology
Leibniz’s New Essays Concerning the Human Understanding
A Critical Exposition
Letters from China and Japan
Moral Principles in Education
Psychology and Social Practice
Reconstruction in Philosophy
Studies in Logical Theory
The information revealed in Gattos work should have hit national scandal level, long ago.
For a brief encapsulation, his History Tour is excellent:
It was interesting to me to read about how, as a school teacher in New York, Gatto had to skirt, bend, or even break the established policies to facilitate the actual education of his students.
That from his book “A Different Kind of Teacher...”
Speaking of Gatto, freeper vikingd00d’s Dewey quotation is not found in Gatto’s 400-page “Underground History of American Education,” either.
Until we can cite a source from the works of Dewey, I will assume that the source is Ann Coulter, per the citation from freeper St_Thomas_Aquinas.
A lot of bad things came out of Germany in the 1800s. Not the least of which were German Talmudic critics. They founded modern atheism, particulary among Jews. These atheists graduated to communism.
TO #10> Yes, but Van Jones dresses well. No more sloppy communist executioners like Che or the pig Beria.
Nope. Mao suits and a copy of “The Quotations of Chairman Mao” in his back pocket, just in case he forgets the Party line.
Anita Dunn. Definitely a schizophrenic personality. Mother Teresa and Mao. I couldn’t have thought of that combo as great philosophers if I were drunk and popping LSD.
Try to find, on the internet, a copy of the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, Sen. Judiciary Committee, 1971 study “The Human Cost of Communism in China” by Prof. Richard Walker.
It is a companion study to Robert Conquest’s “The Human Cost of Communism in the Soviet Union” (1970) and “The Human Cost of Communism in Vietnam”, 1971 (the study I created and co-edited), Part II, “THCCinVN - Testimony of Daniel Teodoru” and the interim hearing “Testimony of D. Gareth Porter”, the Hanoi propagandist.
I know that some of these are on line. You might try the Texas Tech Univ.’s Vietnam Archives site.
From all I can tell, either Dewey’s quote was from some speech he gave that has been lost to the ages, or he never said it. MANY people credit that specific quote to him, though; there has to be a root, there, somewhere, even if it was someone else talking about Dewey.
All that aside, though, the quotes that CAN be legitimately accredited to John Dewey, and his philosophical bent, are plenty bad enough that I’d never let him influence my children’s education. Of course, Gatto has Dewey on the sidelines in the formation of American Public Education; a bit player, not one of the industrialist central figures.
In other words, it's false but accurate.
“...false but accurate.”
Dewey actually said several other things that show his take on children’s independent thought was completely different than characterized by the misquote. So, the misquote is inaccurate. The only sense in which it rings true is in it’s placement of Dewey as an avid collectivist, which he was. Dewey’s humanist, socialist, Marxist, collectivist streak was a mile wide, and not conducive of the formation of an educational structure suited to the preservation of this Republic. Any extent to which his influence on the developing system was marginalized can be considered good.
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