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Itís payback time for our insane energy policy
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 23 Mar 2013 | Christopher Booker

Posted on 03/24/2013 1:56:24 PM PDT by neverdem

An obsession with CO2 has left us dangerously short of power as coal-powered stations are forced to close

As the snow of the coldest March since 1963 continues to fall, we learn that we have barely 48 hours’ worth of stored gas left to keep us warm, and that the head of our second-largest electricity company, SSE, has warned that our generating capacity has fallen so low that we can expect power cuts to begin at any time. It seems the perfect storm is upon us.

The grotesque mishandling of Britain’s energy policy by the politicians of all parties, as they chase their childish chimeras of CO2-induced global warming and windmills, has been arguably the greatest act of political irresponsibility in our history. Three more events last week brought home again just what a mad bubble of make-believe these people are living in.

Under the EU’s Large Combustion Plants Directive, we lost two more major coal-fired power stations, Didcot A...

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So we are doomed to see Britain’s lights going out, all because the feather-headed lunatics in charge of our energy policy still believe that they’ve got to do something to save the planet from that CO2-induced global warming which this weekend has been covering much of the country up to a foot deep in snow. Meanwhile, the Indians are planning to build 455 new coal-fired power stations which will add more CO2 to the atmosphere of the planet every week than Britain emits in a year.

Thank you, David Cameron, leader of “the greenest government ever”. Thank you, Ed Miliband, father of the Climate Change Act, the most expensive suicide note in history. Between you, you seem determined to switch off our lights, lock the door and throw away the key. We owe you more than we can say.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; coal; energy; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 03/24/2013 1:56:25 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Daffynition

Voila! Just excerpt.


2 posted on 03/24/2013 2:00:10 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

I’m probably sounding cold when I say this, but I do love it when the chickens come home to roost.


3 posted on 03/24/2013 2:06:36 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: neverdem
Ungland...
4 posted on 03/24/2013 2:07:44 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem
"Between you, you seem determined to switch off our lights, lock the door and throw away the key. We owe you more than we can say."

Well, the electric chair is out of the question -- might just be the final straw.
5 posted on 03/24/2013 2:12:34 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: RWB Patriot

“I’m probably sounding cold when I say this,...”

Actually, you’re sounding like you’re warm and toasty. It’s the Brits who are cold.


6 posted on 03/24/2013 2:13:40 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: neverdem

Somehow the people who wrote those dopey laws will manage to remain warm.


7 posted on 03/24/2013 2:14:38 PM PDT by allendale
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To: neverdem

The good news is we have places (China and India) to sell our coal to, LOL.


8 posted on 03/24/2013 2:15:38 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: neverdem

Are the British able to burn wood and coal for heat...or is that banned too?

Is freezing their only (self-imposed) option?


9 posted on 03/24/2013 2:16:59 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: RWB Patriot

Roosting chickens. My thoughts, exactly.


10 posted on 03/24/2013 2:19:31 PM PDT by white trash redneck (Just one of B. Hussein Obama's "typical white people")
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To: neverdem
We are watching the West commit suicide. We tried to stop it, but the west and its klepto-oligarchial globalist financial structure, wants to commit suicide. Not much can be done to stop it now.

UK’s coldest spring since 1963 claims 5,000 lives

Germany – Coldest spring on record (for northern and eastern Germany)

11 posted on 03/24/2013 2:21:06 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: lacrew

The average heating-season “room temperature” in Britain is lower than in the U.S. or Canada.

Here’s an interesting article on the topic (read the comments too):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12606943


12 posted on 03/24/2013 2:28:07 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: nascarnation
The good news is we have places (China and India) to sell our coal to, LOL.

Have you read about all the protests going on in the NorthWest to prohibit building coal export/shipping ports???
13 posted on 03/24/2013 2:36:06 PM PDT by StevieB
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To: neverdem

One heck of a comment here:

Let me explain something to you Mr. Booker (and the rest of you Brits), since we deal with the same people here in the states.

There is NO ‘insanity’ or ‘madness’ to these policies. These people implementing these policies know FULL WELL that they would bring your economy TO ITS KNEES with an 80% reduction in greenhouse gases. When you do the math, with that level of reduction, it will be difficult to have heating in the winter, and IMPOSSIBLE to also have lorrie transport or even factories operating at the same time.

The loss of electricity production is what transformed North Korea from a fairly modern, industrial country (albeit run by a Communist nutcase) into the starvation nightmare that it is now. NOTHING ELSE. The Soviet era ended, and the Russians stopped sending them crude to run their power plants - and the food supply dried up. It’s well documented.

As to motive - very simple. To bring your society down a few notches (just like they’re trying to do here). Ever since their protest-filled college days they have been FILLED WITH GUILT about the material success of the West versus the rest of the world and have ALWAYS wanted to do something about it. Now they’re older and have the levers of power. Like us, most of you people trust them because you cannot bring yourself to believe that they could be that bad - but as was stated in the article, other countries are JUMPING IN to produce the cheap, dirty, power, as we strangle ourselves. Have a look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...

China now leads the US. China, India, and Russia now lead the EU and US, combined. In probably 5 years, China ALONE will lead both the US and EU combined. Those trend lines aren’t going to change, we are going to be left in the dust as those countries industrialize.

We are NO LONGER the kings of this planet. If anyone, it’s China, India and similar countries. Because of that we CANNOT save the world from evil carbon. But we can still kill ourselves trying, by having freezing cold winters, and like North Korea, probably starving, once the power plants are shut off.

So maybe it’s time to question the people you’ve trusted for the past couple of decades - for it’s hard to see how they are putting the interests of Brits first - and it’s also hard to see how they wouldn’t know the NIGHTMARE they are leading you to.


14 posted on 03/24/2013 2:37:44 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: nascarnation
The good news is we have places (China and India) to sell our coal to, LOL.

And per the article, we now sell wood chips to the UK.

Instead of getting Californians to move to Texas, Gov. Perry should be getting UK and European industries to locate in Texas. Energy prices are much cheaper there than in Europe, gas is about 1/3 as costly in Texas.

15 posted on 03/24/2013 2:37:44 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: StevieB

No, but I assume it might still be viable to ship via railroad to Canada or Mexico and then export?


16 posted on 03/24/2013 2:38:17 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Vince Ferrer

My SIL works for Rolls Royce here in Indiana.
They consider us their “Mexicans” based on the low cost of doing business compared to Britain.


17 posted on 03/24/2013 2:40:00 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I remember decades ago hearing how cold they had it in England. It amazed me that they would put up with that crap...but they did and still do. They were also dealing with gas rationing when there wasn’t even a shortage or even a price spike. They were just living out the last years (and still are) of an empire rotting away from the center.


18 posted on 03/24/2013 2:45:02 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Aria

Starting to look like the west was suckered into suicide. The Soviet Union used their Programmed Communist agents here in the US to hamper and weaken our industrial output. While that is occurring the Russians and the East are not weakening or hampering their industrial output. Thus they have jumped way ahead of us in military capability. Right now the country of India with just 4 submarines can annihilate 60 % of all major US cities with just 4 subs and 15 minutes. And there is not a thing the US can do right now to stop that. And Russia and China have even greater capabilities.


19 posted on 03/24/2013 2:50:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: BobL
It amazed me that they would put up with that crap...but they did and still do. They were also dealing with gas rationing when there wasn’t even a shortage or even a price spike.

The way this is playing out right now, all Western governments will either be overthrown or annihilated. Imagine, thousands dying every winter, and they are, as the planet heads into the colder times of the current Ice Age, while the AGW supporting governments try to eliminate as much energy production as possible. That is suicide. The people will eventually rise up and topple these governments or starve to death. And if we do not change course soon, the East will annihilate the current Western governments. Because in a cooling world, Russia and China will be the worse affected. Just use this winter as an example. And the Russians and Chinese know about all the black box projects the US has been running to insanely, suicidally try to cool the planet.

20 posted on 03/24/2013 2:59:40 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Here we are sitting on resources our EPA won’t allow us to use - pretty easy to imagine that some day someone stronger will want what we’ve got and we’ll just be a toothless tiger unable to defend ourselves.


21 posted on 03/24/2013 3:02:24 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: nascarnation
The good news is we have places (China and India) to sell our coal to, LOL.

You forgot that we are dealing with absolute fanatics!

epa export coal

Take a look see...

22 posted on 03/24/2013 3:09:55 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Aria

Much worse then that. Western governments have been actively trying to cool the planet. And the East does not want to freeze to death. They will annihilate us instead of freezing to death.


23 posted on 03/24/2013 3:13:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

I’ve been seriously thinking of moving to panama.

However, in previous centuries people survived the cold. Even much of England didn’t have central heating until the last 50 years or so. You can survive if you know how.


24 posted on 03/24/2013 3:38:46 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: neverdem
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25 posted on 03/24/2013 3:42:49 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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26 posted on 03/24/2013 3:46:06 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Aria
This new cold part of the Ice Age, could be something very different. For one, we are long overdo to reenter the real cold phase of the current Ice Age and modern civilization has never had to deal with that. Last time was just over 10,000 years ago. There is no way this current population level can be maintained, unless we unshackle energy development.

Additionally, US and European governments have been actively trying to cool the planet. We need to know every single one of the projects they have undertaken to cool the planet. My guess is that some of these could have had an influence. Much easier ways to modify temps without using CO2. And if they did manage to increase cooling, we could enter this next cold Ice Age period very quickly.

Basically the perfect storm. We actively attempted to cool the planet just before it was headed back into the cold Ice Age period. Probably one of the dumbest moves ever in the entire Universe.

27 posted on 03/24/2013 3:53:45 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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Thanks neverdem.


28 posted on 03/24/2013 4:18:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

My thermostat stays at 64F all winter. Except at night, of course, when it’s at 58F.


29 posted on 03/24/2013 4:22:09 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: neverdem
Thanks neverdem.

I'll try to remember that. :(


30 posted on 03/24/2013 4:46:46 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. ¬ó D.H.)
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31 posted on 03/24/2013 4:48:29 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. ¬ó D.H.)
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32 posted on 03/24/2013 5:39:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Daffynition

LOL!


33 posted on 03/24/2013 5:56:33 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

I have a sign in my office “Large carbon footprints make for happy trees.” Drives the libtards boocooo crazy. Once in a blue moon someone actually wants to engage and discuss, the truth blows their mind. Low information is very dangerous.


34 posted on 03/24/2013 6:30:04 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III
I have a sign in my office “Large carbon footprints make for happy trees.” Drives the libtards boocooo crazy. Once in a blue moon someone actually wants to engage and discuss, the truth blows their mind. Low information is very dangerous.

You might want to add this factoid to your discussion:

The first Surveyor-type satellite was launched in 1968. Every year since that date has marked a small, but measurable, increase in the percentage of the planet that was forested.

Perhaps, the Rain Forest is shrinking. But, if it is, the Taiga is going berserk.

We produce CO2, the trees appreciate it...and thence, indeed, they go forth and multiply.

35 posted on 03/24/2013 6:50:30 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 03/24/2013 8:37:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Chode
Ungland...

As if we have any room to talk.

37 posted on 03/24/2013 8:38:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: allendale
Somehow the people who wrote those dopey laws will manage to remain warm.

Peasant fat burns hot, and is carbon-neutral.

It's a threefer: they get a high protein diet, the fuel to cook it; and they remain warm!

Jonathan Swift was ahead of his time with his Modest Proposal!

38 posted on 03/24/2013 10:02:16 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: lacrew
Are the British able to burn wood and coal for heat...or is that banned too?

Yes, although the coal has to be treated ('smokeless') in urban areas. Worth pointing out that there are still huge unexploited stocks of coal in Britain, which won't be going away. However, by far the most common heating fuel in Britain is gas.

39 posted on 03/25/2013 5:46:14 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: dfwgator
yeah i hear ya, but more than 48 hours anyway...
40 posted on 03/25/2013 8:32:48 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem

My sympathies to the good people of Great Britain.


41 posted on 03/26/2013 8:50:53 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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