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McCain emerges as key senator for expanding background checks
The Hill ^ | March 24, 2013 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 03/24/2013 12:27:25 PM PDT by jazusamo

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has emerged as a key player if Senate Democrats are to have any chance of passing legislation to expand background checks for private sales of firearms.

McCain and Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Dean Heller (R-Nev.) are at the top of a list of Republicans considered most likely to sign on to legislation expanding background checks after talks with Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) stalled earlier this month.

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) has signaled he will likely support the yet-to-be-finalized proposal he negotiated with Sens. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) to expand background checks to cover private gun sales, according to Senate sources.

The proposal includes modifications to attract Republican support. One would let rural gun owners conduct background checks from their home computers. Another would give military veterans who have been declared mentally unfit to own a gun a process for appealing that finding.

Expanding background checks is the centerpiece of President Obama’s proposal to change the nation’s gun laws in response to the mass shooting that killed 20 children in Newtown, Ct., last December.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has announced he will include background-checks legislation in a gun-violence package scheduled for the Senate floor in April, even though it’s uncertain whether it could gather the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster.

McCain could provide crucial Republican support because he has a "B-plus" rating from the National Rifle Association, one of the most powerful interest groups in Washington. His endorsement could bring along Heller, who has an "A" rating from the NRA.

Collins and Kirk have weaker credentials on gun issues within Republican circles. Collins has a "C-plus" rating from the NRA and Kirk has an "F."

Manchin, who has an "A" rating from the NRA, has taken the lead in shopping the background-checks proposal to Republican lawmakers, said a Senate aide.

Manchin said he is shopping the proposal widely, but declined Friday to reveal his lobbying list.

“Anybody and every one of them. I’m talking to everybody,” he said when asked to identify targeted Republican senators.

McCain said he has discussed extended background checks, but declined to reveal any details from those talks.

“We’ve had discussions about the issue,” said McCain. “I never describe my discussions with other senators.”

A Senate aide said Collins has had conversations with Manchin over the past several weeks. Another Senate source said she has been approached about background checks.

Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) said he has also been approached by Manchin. He is open-minded about expanding background checks, but shares the concerns Coburn had over requiring private sellers to maintain records.

Heller said he wants to make sure felons and people suffering from mental illness do not have access to guns but is unsure about how to implement expanded background checks.

“We’ve had a couple of conversations. We’ve had a couple of conversations,” he said.

Heller wants to make sure that expanding background checks does not lead to a national registry of gun owners.

“Coburn and I share that concern only because you have to keep those records from 15 to 20 years and even proponents of the legislation say they would subject law-abiding citizens to stings by the ATF,” he said in reference to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

But Heller said the record-keeping requirement for expanded background checks, which Schumer has insisted on, is a deal breaker.

“I wouldn’t say anything at this point is a deal breaker,” he said.

Sen. Dan Coats (R-Ind.) is seen as another Republican who might support a bipartisan proposal to expand background checks. Coats has a "C-plus" NRA rating, which makes him an attractive target. But Coats on Friday denied that he has been approached by colleagues to back the Schumer-Manchin-Kirk proposal.

“I don’t know if I’m the shopping list or not. No one has approached me,” said Coats.

Coats said he wants to see the details of legislation on background checks before making a decision. He said he would oppose Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s (D-Calif.) proposal to ban military-style semi-automatic weapons.

"Sen. Kirk remains largely supportive of the background check proposal so far negotiated between he and Sens. Manchin and Schumer, and he will continue negotiating for language to protect veterans' Second Amendment rights," said Lance Trover, Kirk's spokesman.

Gun-control advocates on Friday praised Reid’s decision to include a background-checks measure in the base gun-violence bill he will bring to the Senate floor.

“I applaud Senator Reid for sending a bill to the Senate floor that includes comprehensive, enforceable background checks— and for emphasizing that to be effective, any bill that passes the Senate must include background checks,” said New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I), co-chairman of Mayors Against Illegal guns. “This sensible reform — with overwhelming support from Americans, including gun owners — will save lives and keep our communities safer.”

Reid on Tuesday raised the possibility that he would leave it out of the base bill because of concern that Republicans might block the legislation if it included objectionable language on background checks.

On Thursday, Reid said he would include the background-checks legislation approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee last week on a party-line vote. That provision will likely not garner 60 votes, but Schumer and other gun-control advocates hope Republicans can be found in the next few weeks to support a bipartisan alternative to expand background checks.


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Heller wants to make sure that expanding background checks does not lead to a national registry of gun owners.

A national registry is what it's all about for the gun grabbers.

Not a surprise that McCain will go along with this.

1 posted on 03/24/2013 12:27:25 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Can’t this useless old fool just have a stroke already?


2 posted on 03/24/2013 12:29:28 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: jazusamo
McCain is part of the communists government takeover of our freedom. He is insane.
3 posted on 03/24/2013 12:32:53 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: jazusamo

McCain, Thanks for bring us Palin, now go away.


4 posted on 03/24/2013 12:33:04 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: jazusamo

The ‘RAT Nazis using a cranky old white guy to do their work for them. A “national registry” will do absolutely nothing to stop shootings from occurring. Nothing. Only those who do a lot of recreational drugs would think otherwise.


5 posted on 03/24/2013 12:34:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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To: Logical me

I always suspect something happened to him when he was a POW. Not sure what but he sure seems to like playing victim to the enemy - although that assumes he actually sees the rats as enemies.


6 posted on 03/24/2013 12:34:41 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Well, he was already a disgrace for his actions. Now he and mark kelley-giffords have something to talk about. Like how their oath of service to protect and defend the constitution really meant nothing to them. Useless.


7 posted on 03/24/2013 12:36:12 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: jazusamo

I’m betting the new “background checks” will include a lot of information not currently required. Looks like McCain is going to pull the pin on another grenade inside our own bunker.


8 posted on 03/24/2013 12:36:25 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Logical me

I want to know what happened to him in the Hanoi Hilton. The guy’s a Manchurian Candidate.


9 posted on 03/24/2013 12:36:44 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: jazusamo

background checks for American citizens to get a gun..

but none for the illegal aliens to be here...


10 posted on 03/24/2013 12:40:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: jazusamo

I so despise him. I have for years. More so now.


11 posted on 03/24/2013 12:40:20 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Ben Hecks

I’ve no doubt you’re right on both points and they’re going to come up with many excuses to retain them.


12 posted on 03/24/2013 12:40:58 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Aria

McCain wasn’t just tortured by the “enemy without”, he was brainwashed and programmed...making him a member of the “enemy within”. That much has become obvious over the years. The real trajedy here is....that our system left us with no other choice but him vs. THE most radical candidate in the history of this nation. Not much of a damned choice, IOW.

The fix has been in all along. We just didn’t know it until now.


13 posted on 03/24/2013 12:42:08 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

And.....no background check for Barack Hussein Obama (aka Barry Soetero).


14 posted on 03/24/2013 12:43:12 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: jazusamo

Is safety the goal? NO. A NATIONALIZED DATABASE is the goal.


15 posted on 03/24/2013 12:46:25 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: jazusamo

Just fired off a note to Heller telling him NO more intrusion into citizens affairs. PERIOD! Probably get the usual form email/letter back. Again.


16 posted on 03/24/2013 12:46:32 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Lurker

you mean another stroke?


17 posted on 03/24/2013 12:47:22 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: jazusamo

18 posted on 03/24/2013 12:51:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: jazusamo

Indeed it does Heller, once they have your name they have all the means they need to register you. Folks tend not to order such a background check without a reason, Big government would regard makes them dangerous.


19 posted on 03/24/2013 12:52:05 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Ben Hecks
Looks like McCain is going to pull the pin on another grenade inside our own bunker.

It's not like he hasn't done that before.

It was his A-4 that fired the rocket on the Forrestal's deck that damned near ended up sinking the carrier.

Thanking him for his service is thanking him for a mixed blessing...

20 posted on 03/24/2013 12:52:37 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Lurker

McCain doesn’t speak for anyone I know.


21 posted on 03/24/2013 12:55:03 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: rktman

Bump! I hear you but we have to keep trying to get their attention, keep blasting them.


22 posted on 03/24/2013 12:56:03 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That graphic is sadly right on the mark and powerful.


23 posted on 03/24/2013 12:58:29 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Whatever the issue is, you can always be sure John McCain is standing there on the wrong side, stabbing us in the back.


24 posted on 03/24/2013 12:59:33 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: jazusamo

McCain always seems to be the key POS in any backstabbing of Constitutional governance in this republic. Soros sure gets his money’s worth out of him.


25 posted on 03/24/2013 1:00:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: okie01

I’m no fan of McCain and not making excuses but I believe his A-4 was hit by a missile from an aircraft to his rear.


26 posted on 03/24/2013 1:00:46 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

McCain is the greaatest saboteur of America since Jane Fonda and John Kerry.


27 posted on 03/24/2013 1:03:45 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: XenaLee
The real trajedy here is....that our system left us with no other choice but him vs. THE most radical candidate in the history of this nation. Not much of a damned choice, IOW. The fix has been in all along.

Of course the fix has been in all along. I distinctly remember reading about McCain flying coach, handling his own bags, and driving rental cars on the campaign trail in the early 2008 primary.

How does someone go from being a wanna-be contender with no organization, and no cash at the beginning of a primary, to being the Republican nominee at the end?

When 2 + 2 = 5, you know you're being hoodwinked.

It was McCain's job all along to graciously 'lose' to the radical Communist, Obama. Even if he had to throw the race to do it.

28 posted on 03/24/2013 1:04:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jazusamo
This makes me want to move to Az, just so I can vote his A@@ out of office and put him into jail.
29 posted on 03/24/2013 1:05:30 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416, Fiesty Vet!!)
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To: okie01

“It was his A-4 that fired the rocket on the Forrestal’s deck that damned near ended up sinking the carrier.” WRONG the Zuni 5 inch rocket that was fired hit the jet NEXT to MacPain’s, MacPain escaped by going hand over hand and dangling and dropping off of the Re-Fueling rod to safety.


30 posted on 03/24/2013 1:08:03 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: jazusamo

McLame is just a brain twisted old Rat in RINO clothing


31 posted on 03/24/2013 1:09:26 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: okie01; US Navy Vet; jazusamo

I hate to defend McLame because he’s been a traitor since the day he first took office as a Congressman and worked with Kerry to shut down investigations into POWs. But he actually was a hero that day on the Forrestal. After he escaped his plane he helped another pilot escape the flames IIRC. No easy thing with Jet A fuel blazing up everywhere.


32 posted on 03/24/2013 1:13:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: jazusamo

2nd Amendment bump for later.......


33 posted on 03/24/2013 1:17:27 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: mongo141; All

During the last election cycle, I was able to observe Senator McCain up close and personal for over an hour.

Whatever else you might say, Senator McCain is not stupid, nor does he lack energy. He is smart, aware, and effective for what he decides he wants to push.

Unfortunately, this is often the wrong thing and works against us. I am very concerned that he influence his junior Senator, Jeff Flake, who has the possibility of being very good.

McCain, in my opinion, is an old style “progressive”, which means at his core he is a big government nanny state type.


34 posted on 03/24/2013 1:22:09 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: jazusamo
Can't have background checks of US presidential candidates, though.

That would be racist.

35 posted on 03/24/2013 1:26:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: marktwain

McCain is bought and paid for by Soros without any doubt whatsoever.


36 posted on 03/24/2013 1:28:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Bump.


37 posted on 03/24/2013 1:34:40 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: VRW Conspirator
McCain, Thanks for bring us Palin, now go away.

Palin has a house in Arizona now, she should run for his seat.

38 posted on 03/24/2013 1:37:48 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: jazusamo

Though I depise McCain to my core....I find nothing in the article but supposition he will back background checks...

Of course I have no doubt he would vote for it .....so he can be the media maverick ...again...


39 posted on 03/24/2013 1:47:33 PM PDT by Popman
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To: jazusamo; US Navy Vet; TigersEye
If I was mistaken -- as, apparently, I am -- I apologize to all. And to the Senator.

Nonetheless, there remain roughly 47 reasons why I consider him a useless, opportunistic political waste of time.

And, let the record reflect, I voted for his sorry butt -- full well recognizing it was a sorry butt -- in 2008.

Even after he called me -- and everybody else who objected to his "comprehensive immigration reform" -- a "bigoted asshole"...

At bottom, I really do detest the man...

40 posted on 03/24/2013 1:52:35 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: jazusamo

Folks....the GOP are going after your 2d Amendment and self defense rights. Wake Up

McCain isn’t going to be the only treasonous one here


41 posted on 03/24/2013 1:53:29 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: okie01

No apology needed FRiend and I agree.


42 posted on 03/24/2013 1:55:59 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
"A national registry is what it's all about for the gun grabbers."

That, and outlawing another subgroup each time. Those simply accused of domestic violence (no criminal charges needed--only restraining orders), those who see psychologists or psychiatrists,...the list will lengthen greatly in time. Then, eventually, no more support for the Second Amendment.


43 posted on 03/24/2013 1:56:08 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Palin has a house in Arizona now, she should run for his seat.

I would suppose that McCain now views his Senate seat as a personal possession and plans to will it to his daughter, Megan, when he retires.

I wonder if the Arizona voters will comply with his wishes...

44 posted on 03/24/2013 1:59:48 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Lurker

We should be so lucky.


45 posted on 03/24/2013 2:02:52 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: okie01
At bottom, I really do detest the man...

That doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about him. McCain is scum. Here are two collections of links that show just a little of what he has done to trash this country.

Why McCain is a treasonous scumbag. 1

Why McCain is a treasonous scumbag. 2

46 posted on 03/24/2013 2:03:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: familyop

I believe you’re right. If they get to that point with a gun control law; DHS, DOJ or possibly both will just add new restrictions by enacting new regulations.


47 posted on 03/24/2013 2:04:49 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You might not know any of them.

But he speaks loudly and clearly for the fools who re-elected him and will do so again and again.


48 posted on 03/24/2013 2:06:03 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: jazusamo

John Sellout McCain. In the interest of honesty and integrity, please switch parties. Thank you.


49 posted on 03/24/2013 2:07:07 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: jazusamo

Can’t stand the jerk, but you are right. He got hit and jumped off the leading edge of his planes wing.


50 posted on 03/24/2013 2:17:55 PM PDT by mortal19440
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