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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 24 March 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 24 March 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 03/24/2013 4:29:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: csmusaret

Agree.


101 posted on 03/24/2013 8:37:01 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: csmusaret; Tammy8
if we cut off benefits and jobs they would get themselves home.

Tammy noted that the illegals are living off of the "entitlements" for their citizen children.

It shouldn't be too hard to ID those child-recipients and bust their parents for welfare fraud. Make it a BIG crime (which it is) and with bad enough punishment to self-deport.

102 posted on 03/24/2013 8:39:01 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Larri...Larri...Larri...


103 posted on 03/24/2013 8:40:25 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: kabar

I agree, kabar. They are in such a hurry to make these changes...to heck with the consequences. They are trying to overwhelm us Conservatives into a defeatist attitude.....to just give up. In some ways, it’s working.


104 posted on 03/24/2013 8:43:59 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: rodguy911
..it's all over.

Not while I'm still standing, it ain't.

105 posted on 03/24/2013 8:44:14 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (For why should my Freedom be judged by anothers conscience? 1 Cor 10:29)
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To: rodguy911

It all depends on Texas and here in ol’ FLa. if we both get taken over by the third worlders its all over.


It would have happened eventually anyway. We have had too many years of relative peace and prosperity. Nearly all Americans alive today don’t know real pain.

Things like having your relatives shot by your government and buried in a family plot by your house. I see those graves every time I go over to Europe. And I never forget it.

The collapse is being accelerated by the incredible weak GOP leadership. Dems sense weakness and go all in. The GOP is just flailing around without a clue. Trying to govern with the Dems in a constitutional manner while the marxists destroy and lie. This country is in grave danger.


106 posted on 03/24/2013 8:57:55 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

It is not welfare fraud when they put their citizen children on all the programs. They are encouraged to enroll their children, ads are constant on Spanish TV channels. Under our current laws, the children born here are citizens and are eligible for all the goodies. The children are on welfare- technically the parents are not- but since the children are minors the benefits go directly to the parents.

This is why you see the back and forth argument about illegals on welfare, then someone says no they are not eligible. Technically both are right, illegals are not eligible but their children are!

The large number of the children of illegals being on welfare also helps the liberals when anyone wants to make cuts to social programs- liberals will tell you the largest number of people on welfare are children- if you make cuts you are starving children. The reason for large numbers of children over adults on food stamps is because illegal adult parents are not technically on welfare, their children are.


107 posted on 03/24/2013 8:58:12 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Kamala

Kamala

108 posted on 03/24/2013 9:07:44 AM PDT by upchuck (Free Republic: faster than a speeding bullet!)
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To: Tammy8
It is not welfare fraud when they put their citizen children on all the programs.

Yeah, I get that.

since the children are minors the benefits go directly to the parents.

DHHS/ICE Agents:

"OK Jose, drop that taco and move away from that table."

"Do you have a receipt for those tortillas? Oh, I see you paid for them with an EBT card. Can I see your proof of citizenship?"

"Hmmmm...please turn around and place your hands behind your back."

109 posted on 03/24/2013 9:10:05 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: kabar; All
None of the comments on DOMA address the primary reason why it was written, i.e., who is entitled to federal benefits like SS, Medicare, survivor’s benefits for federal pensions, etc. It has large monetary implications.

Agreed. From wikipedia, Defense of Marriage Act

..............."The General Accounting Office issued a report in 1997 identifying "1,049 federal statutory provisions classified to the United States Code in which benefits, rights, and privileges are contingent on marital status or in which marital status is a factor".[28] In updating its report in 2004, the GAO found that this number had risen to 1,138 as of December 31, 2003.[29] With respect to Social Security, housing, and food stamps, the GAO found that "recognition of the marital relationship is integral to the design of the program[s]." The other major categories the GAO identified were veteran's benefits, including pensions and survivor benefits; taxes on income, estates, gifts, and property sales; and benefits due federal employees, both civilian and military. Among many specifics, it noted the rights of the widow or widower of the creator of a copyrighted work and certain financial disclosure requirements that include the spouses of members of Congress and certain officers of the federal government. Education loan programs and agriculture price support and loan programs also implicate spouses. Financial aid to "family farms" is restricted to those in which "a majority interest is held by individuals related by marriage or blood."[28]"..................

It goes on describe employee benefits - healthcare, pensions, disbility; immigration, etc.
110 posted on 03/24/2013 9:10:41 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Tammy8

I heard the USDA is running ads in Mexico encouraging people to apply for Food Stamps. Can anyone confirm that for me?


111 posted on 03/24/2013 9:15:00 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: csmusaret

I have no idea, it would not surprise me at all. I will try to find out if it is actually true.


112 posted on 03/24/2013 9:30:32 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: JPG

They are our Masters.

We must obey.

They know what’s best for us.


113 posted on 03/24/2013 9:30:33 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Girlene

I am 90% convinced to register as a Libertarian.

Being pressed, as it were, here locally, to get involved with the pubs...Tea Party Types.

Nope.

They won.

I’m outta there.


114 posted on 03/24/2013 9:32:39 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Dear Lord you come up with common sense solution when they do not understand common sense.

They are the political elite. They live in a bubble. They do not understand borders or locked doors or fences.

They are our Masters.

They know what’s best for us.


115 posted on 03/24/2013 9:34:00 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Again, with the common sense thing.

I gotta tell you people everything.

They are our Masters.

Pay respect.

Bow down especially for Diane Feinstein, who will protect us.


116 posted on 03/24/2013 9:35:47 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: lodi90; kabar

You are both so right, and they are so wrong!


117 posted on 03/24/2013 9:51:15 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: rodguy911

Re doonebert: ***we allow you to smoke****

Talk about speaking an inadvertent truth, revealing the inner dictator! In his world he “allows” people to do certain things.

we -— allow -— you

Has no place in American discourse.


118 posted on 03/24/2013 9:54:38 AM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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To: Girlene

...yells at Wallace for interrupting her (she thought it was Bauer).

-—as she was giving a tedious monologue!


119 posted on 03/24/2013 9:57:05 AM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

change the tax code and even soc security to allow singles to “choose” a beneficiary and you don’t have to change marriage.

@@@@@

Excellent solution! Why can’t two sisters or brothers live together and have the same rights as people who have sex together!


120 posted on 03/24/2013 10:02:48 AM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for thead AB. Still very concerned what is LEFT in “gun control” bill.

Drop “assault” weapons but smother us with regulations?

Boehner must stand firm.


121 posted on 03/24/2013 10:17:24 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: maica

Like I been saying, had you been paying attention....they are our Masters.

Of course they “allow” us.

They know what’s best for us.


122 posted on 03/24/2013 10:26:40 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: csmusaret; Tammy8
Iheard the USDA is running ads in Mexico encouraging people to apply for Food Stamps. Can anyone confirm

It is true. Dems Vote To Fund Food Stamp Promotions On Mexican Soil They've been doing it....they just voted to continue funding.
123 posted on 03/24/2013 10:35:27 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Fishtalk
I am 90% convinced to register as a Libertarian.

But then you can't vote in the Repub primary, right?
124 posted on 03/24/2013 10:37:30 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Newt: Jihad in ME is a bipartisan problem, rockets falling as B Hussein visits Israel. Most surrounding moslem countries want to destroy Israel.

Nobody from either side of the political spectrum seems to know what to do about it.
__

What to DO about the increasingly militance and hostility of all nations surrounding Israel is for USA to stand up and affirm we are allies and that any attack on them is an attack on us, and mean it.

Instead Bambi wants to allow Israel to slip into the sea and under the waves and then sit back and appoint a commission to figure out what happened. Like in Benghazi. Oh? There’s no Benghazi Commission?


125 posted on 03/24/2013 10:55:17 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Girlene

Thanks. No damn wonder we are broke.


126 posted on 03/24/2013 11:22:53 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: Girlene

Correct.

If the primary were to become an issue,I am willing to change back and forth as required.

Just got to mind the deadlines.

The blue bloods own Delaware.


127 posted on 03/24/2013 11:35:22 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk

As long as you know how to work the primaries if need be, switching sounds like an option.


128 posted on 03/24/2013 12:00:27 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: rodguy911

Does anybody have a Kindle? I want to see if I created a Kindle version.

Pray for America


129 posted on 03/24/2013 12:04:55 PM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
change the tax code and even soc security to allow singles to “choose” a beneficiary and you don’t have to change marriage.

Just imagine the amount of fraud connected with something like that. The costs would be enormous.

130 posted on 03/24/2013 12:06:36 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Tammy noted that the illegals are living off of the "entitlements" for their citizen children.It shouldn't be too hard to ID those child-recipients and bust their parents for welfare fraud. Make it a BIG crime (which it is) and with bad enough punishment to self-deport.

If their children are born in this country, they are US citizens with all the benefits and rights that entails. They are entitled to food stamps, Medicaid, and other social welfare benefits.

131 posted on 03/24/2013 12:14:51 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Sirius Lee

Energy was the fourth.


132 posted on 03/24/2013 12:16:05 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Progs are pushing for war. Be ready.)
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To: lodi90
I only hope they are reading this stuff you guys are right on the mark.We need to start with the [political annihilation we have been enduring put an end to it and start figuring out what is coming at us.
133 posted on 03/24/2013 12:19:45 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

As logical as that sounds the dems won’t do it because they buy votes its OK for them. The pubbies are scared shi_less to do it because they listen too much to the left instead of follow the law and constitution.


134 posted on 03/24/2013 12:24:10 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: lodi90; All
The collapse is being accelerated by the incredible weak GOP leadership. Dems sense weakness and go all in. The GOP is just flailing around without a clue. Trying to govern with the Dems in a constitutional manner while the marxists destroy and lie. This country is in grave danger.

You are right but it can be altered,corrected.

All we have to do is turn it around on the dems. They set the agenda.They figure out what con they will pull on us, how it will end, then implement it. Much of the time they are successful. We look foolish and then they repeat the entire scenario.

Now that we know what is coming at us all we have to do is reverse the agenda. Turn it around on them. Only we can use the truth.They have to constantly lies about us. We can win.

135 posted on 03/24/2013 12:30:45 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: PaleoBob

The House Committee on UnAmerican Activities came about because they defined the communist party as advocating the VIOLENT OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. Sedition and treason were not taken lightly by either the US citizens or most of their elected officials. Most democrat and Republican senators and congressmen supported the US govt whatever political differences they may have had. My only vote for a democrat EVER was for Congressman Larry McDonald of Georgia. LM teamed with NC Republican Senator Jesse Helms, former democrat, to fight the communist infiltration of the US govt. McDonald’s death in a plane headed for Korea, which was shot down by the Russians, was not a coincidence IMO. The communist infiltration has progressed to their now open advocacy of the total destruction and remake of our Republic into an appendage of the socialist, one world govt. Communists and variations thereof call themselves whatever umbrella name fits a current agenda and avoids whatever is left of the stigma of admitting their communist affiliation. Oh well, speaking of pills!!!


136 posted on 03/24/2013 12:33:01 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America and the Republic for which is stands.)
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To: Tammy8

The whole anchor baby concept has to be outlawed. Only after we secure the borders. Both have to be done or we lose the country quite easily.


137 posted on 03/24/2013 12:33:16 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: maica

Fortunately we have the New Media and the little midget dictator will hear about that comment no matter how much dinero he has.


138 posted on 03/24/2013 12:36:20 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: shalom aleichem

Its pretty obvious what Zeros Israel kiss-up trip was all about now.
The dear leader just released 500 million for the PLO right after his trip.Slick SOB. That’s what it was really all about.
No one will come down on him now after making nice to the Israelis. Israel is as dumb as our country believing anything he says.


139 posted on 03/24/2013 12:40:49 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: bray

Don’t have one.


140 posted on 03/24/2013 12:42:17 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: shalom aleichem; rodguy911

Further on the topic of The 0’s Great Adventure Tour, check out...

BREAKING: Assad Shot By Bodyguard – Hospitalized in Damascus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3000279/posts

(Sheesh, I gotta go check my ammo inventory again. SHTF time, anybody?)


141 posted on 03/24/2013 1:12:01 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (For why should my Freedom be judged by anothers conscience? 1 Cor 10:29)
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To: Girlene

Is Donna B a VN Vet? or is this an inside FR joke?

I did not think she was that “old”. Like us others.


142 posted on 03/24/2013 1:46:41 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Girlene

Is Donna B a VN Vet? or is this an inside FR joke?

I did not think she was that “old”. Like us others.


143 posted on 03/24/2013 1:46:41 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: kabar

Karab - You must be a member of The Camel Club (Baldacci). You know everything. Thanks


144 posted on 03/24/2013 1:48:02 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I doubt if those half-measures appease the Gays.

And we do not HAVE TO change definition of “marriage” now.

CJ Roberts will do that sooon enough for us.


145 posted on 03/24/2013 1:50:02 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: kabar
If their children are born in this country, they are US citizens with all the benefits and rights that entails. They are entitled to food stamps, Medicaid, and other social welfare benefits.

I didn't say a word about the "rights" of the children.

146 posted on 03/24/2013 1:52:37 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: shalom aleichem

lol, no. I was responding to Unrepentant VN Vet, but shortened it to VN Vet.

Donna was born Dec. 15, ‘59.


147 posted on 03/24/2013 2:00:06 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
But the parents must apply for the benefits and the food stamp credit cards are issued in the name of the parents. The same holds true for Medicaid.

There are 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year to illegal aliens. I agree we should use applications for benefits as a way to track down and deport the illegals. The citizenship of the parents is not examined when they apply for benefits for their US citizen children.

Now some states are issuing or going to issue driver's licenses to illegals. And we have states providing in-state tuition to illegal alien children. If you can identify the children, why not go after the parents?

We just are not enforcing our laws and when states like AZ tries to enforce them, the federal government sues them.

148 posted on 03/24/2013 2:15:07 PM PDT by kabar
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To: shalom aleichem; Girlene
Donna was born Dec. 15, ‘59.

Which, while "some" of us may have earlier dates on Birth Certificates, doesn't necessarily make us old at all.

(Even if '59 was the year I.....well, never mind.)

149 posted on 03/24/2013 2:18:52 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (For why should my Freedom be judged by anothers conscience? 1 Cor 10:29)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

calm down URVNV. It will be OK.

Our time, the Jedi Time, is soon to begin anew

Meanwhile, go watch Olympus Has Fallen


150 posted on 03/24/2013 2:43:16 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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