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“Spotted Owl Of The Range” Threatens To Block Obama’s Nominee To Lead Interior Dept.
The Colorado Observer. ^ | March 22, 2013 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 03/23/2013 9:54:48 PM PDT by george76

Sally Jewell on Thursday breezed through a committee vote to lead the Interior Department but the agency’s proposal to list the sage grouse as an endangered species threatens to block her nomination from reaching the full Senate.

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some Republican lawmakers were not satisfied with Jewell’s responses to written and oral questions about her past association with the National Park Association’s lawsuits against the government and future plans to list the sage grouse as an endangered species.

Sen. James Risch (R-Idaho) threatened to put a hold on Jewell’s nomination before it goes to a floor vote unless the agency commits to using science, instead of the fear of a lawsuit, in making a final determination on the sage grouse listing.

“Those who are anxious to get grazing off of public land have used the sage grouse as a tool and a vehicle to do that,” Risch said. “Indeed, some have said they will make the sage grouse the spotted owl of the range.”

“It’s really unfortunate that it takes a nomination like this in this type of a process in order to get urgency out of a federal agency. As we all know, urgency is not the hallmark of the federal government,” Risch said.

The proposal to list the grouse as endangered is part of a lawsuit settlement the Obama administration struck with environmental groups.

Western lawmakers are warning that the action would have devastating effects, particularly in Colorado where millions of acres would be blocked from producing oil, gas and for other uses.

Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) said the Interior Department and local officials need to sit back down at the negotiating table to find a compromise “before a bird like that gets listed.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecoloradoobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Idaho; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico; US: Oregon; US: Utah; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: agenda21; esa; farming; grouse; landgrab; owl; propertyrights; ranching; sagegrouse; spottedowl; un21; unitednations

1 posted on 03/23/2013 9:54:48 PM PDT by george76
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To: jazusamo; proud_yank; girlangler; Flycatcher; SierraWasp; GladesGuru; LucyT; AuntB; Seadog Bytes; ..

the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service published in the Federal Register a proposed rule to list the Gunnison sage-grouse as endangered, and a proposed rule to designate approximately 1.7 million acres of critical habitat for Gunnison sage-grouse under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 ...

This includes grabbing private lands from ranchers and family farms, not just preventing grazing allotments on public lands.


2 posted on 03/23/2013 10:02:20 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

There’s still sage grouse hunting in Idaho. Don’t believe for a minute that these birds are “endangered”


3 posted on 03/23/2013 10:02:28 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

The communists, eco-facists, and fed are using this fake sage grouse issue to grab private property and stop domestic energy production ...


4 posted on 03/23/2013 10:06:26 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Domandred
***Don’t believe for a minute that these birds are “endangered”****

Kind of like the attempt a few years back to list the Prairie Dog as an endangered species.

5 posted on 03/23/2013 10:10:53 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: george76

Bingo!


6 posted on 03/23/2013 10:22:01 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus
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To: george76

You know, I don't think that woman
has a lick o' sense. If'n I was a sage grouse
I'd be more worried about chicken hawks
than I would some cow eatin' grass.

7 posted on 03/23/2013 10:23:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: george76

You know, with ‘Grouse Helper’ sage grouse tastes like prairie chicken.


8 posted on 03/23/2013 10:31:29 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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Last year, I drove from Deeth, NV to Jarbidge. Over the years (everywhere in NV), but especially in that area especially between that road and the Mary’s River, I have seen ridiculous quantities of sage chickens. On this drive, it started at dusk, and I literally, no exaggeration, ran over more than 30 sage chickens. I did not do it on purpose, the damn things were unavoidable, and I will not roll a vehicle to miss a bird. So if I can hit 30 sage chickens on a 20 foot wide 50 mile stretch of road before it started ascending into mountains (and I saw and didn’t hit way more than that), I fail to see how they are endangered.


9 posted on 03/23/2013 10:35:24 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: dsrtsage

I’m going to follow you home with a net on my bumper. ;^)


10 posted on 03/23/2013 10:37:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: george76
Getting grazing off of public lands could have other unforeseen consequences. A little long but shows that grasslands need grazing in order to be healthy.
11 posted on 03/23/2013 10:40:09 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: dsrtsage

Until you ran ‘em over, they weren’t endangered. But those were the last twenty.


12 posted on 03/23/2013 11:57:03 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: george76

Mmm... Sage Grouse
13 posted on 03/24/2013 4:03:10 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: george76
Western lawmakers are warning that the action would have devastating effects, particularly in Colorado where millions of acres would be blocked from producing oil, gas and for other uses.

Hey Colorado.....how does sucking up to the dims over gun registration / confiscation sound now....

.......those that sup with the devil need a long spoon....

and your spoon just melted.

14 posted on 03/24/2013 7:18:08 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Don’t remember the Prairie Dog but I do know California tried to list the Rattlesnake back in the 90’s I think it was.


15 posted on 03/24/2013 7:20:06 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: dsrtsage
ran over more than 30 sage chickens

So did you back up and scoop some up.....

how did they taste?

I guess like spotted owl.

Share your recipie.

16 posted on 03/24/2013 7:20:26 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: george76; jazusamo; girlangler; Inyo-Mono; beaversmom
It's starting. First with the Gunnison sage-grouse, which is actually just an isolated race of the greater sage-grouse but received its own "species hood" several years ago. What is the difference, you ask? Well, the Gunnison bird is slightly smaller, has a slightly different voice, and has larger filoplumes than the Greater. That's about it. But it is an isolated population of sage-grouse found only in central Colorado and parts of eastern Utah.

As bad as it was to attempt to list this bird, the listing of the Greater sage-grouse will be DEVASTATING! Its range is huge, and in some places, localized. Which basically means that virtually ALL of the Interior West could be closed for any sort of development, grazing, recreation, etc.

This is war, and the Eastern Leftists know it.

Every Westerner should rise up and fight this tyrannical power grab. If enough voices are heard, we could win this one.

Let me take that back: We HAVE TO win this one.

Thanks for the ping, George!

17 posted on 03/24/2013 7:49:38 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher; SJackson

Big story going on in the West for your outdoor ping list, if you’re interested.


18 posted on 03/24/2013 7:53:12 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: george76

I thought Obama was going to name Punxsutawney Phil Secretary of the Interior. Oh well, maybe I was thinking of Global Warming Czar.


19 posted on 03/24/2013 8:00:38 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: Domandred
It does not matter as far as the ESA is concerned how many of a species exist, but hows many are in the given area they define.

With Bald Eagles, for example, if there are hundreds or thousands living in your state or anywhere else, but you have one nesting eagle in a tree on your property, they are free to define your property as a site where the eagles are endangered and all ESA rules apply.

Same holds true for range land ... they just need to define an area, find a species for which the counts are as plausibly low as they can claim and declare ESA rules. Simple. And the public is snookered once again

As they have been snookered for the past 40 years this has been going on, since the Great Hero of the Right Nixon founded the EPA and signed the ESA into existence.

20 posted on 03/24/2013 9:19:35 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: george76; Flycatcher
The enviro-nazis will go to any length to close down public lands for human use and in many western area that will mean some private lands will basically be shut down also.

Thanks for the data on the Gunnison and Greater sage-grouse, Fly. Sounds like this “species hood” for the Gunnison could well have been a planned tactic for the enviros to get their foot in the door. That may sound a little far out but I wouldn't put anything past these nutjobs.

If they should get both listed under the ESA it will completely change most all the western states and your term “devastating” could be an under statement.

These enviro-nazi nutjobs are nothing but evil!

21 posted on 03/24/2013 9:36:07 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Flycatcher
“It's starting.”

It's started in the 70s with listing of increased penalties for the taking of Bald Eagles - endangered by the unfounded assumption the DDT usage was causing them harm. This despite huge base populations in the West and Alaska. It was not uncommon to hear someone say that there aren't any, no matter that those casual observations were made from living rooms and from within assorted tall city buildings

Having had success with know-nothing public and the finest lawyers which could be purchased with Federal funds, they continued with the Spotted Owl to drive loggers out of the most productive woods, and then went on to use the Marbled Muirlette to drive non-indian drift nets off the water.

Like the Balds Eagle, the Spotted Owl, and the Marbled Muirlett, their claims were based on selective data and outright falsities. And now they are coming for the Grouse.

The effects on Natural Resource Harvesters in the West was devastating - as it was meant to be ... No one listened to us at the time, now it is your turn.

22 posted on 03/24/2013 9:41:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: jazusamo; george76
If they should get both listed under the ESA it will completely change most all the western states and your term “devastating” could be an under statement.

Maximum Bump!!!!

Hey, I'll be heading out for my full-on field season very soon so I will be incommunicado for most of Spring until July. But I'll check FR every chance I get with my smartphone, so keep those pings coming and I'll do the same.

Smartphone! Ha! I can use one now. I'm evolving......! Lol!

23 posted on 03/24/2013 9:47:01 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: PIF
Great post. I'm with ya all the way, and have been for a very long time.

Just so you know, when I said "It's starting" I meant with the sage-grouse and the singular battles occurring in the Interior West.

The environazi movement is like terminal cancer. It's spreading everywhere.

24 posted on 03/24/2013 9:51:55 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher
Will keep up the pings my FRiend and will look forward to your return, have a good one!

My son has had a smartphone for a year or so and says it's the only way to go but then he's a lot smarter than me so I said I'd pass. LOL!

25 posted on 03/24/2013 10:10:48 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Flycatcher; jazusamo

The eco-facists are going hard on this.

Even using armed DHS agents for back up.

They are on a large campaign to shut down all domestic energy production.

But killing thousands of endangered Eagles and other birds by wind mills is ok.


26 posted on 03/24/2013 1:34:17 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

The enviro-facists are trying to do the same thing down here in southeast NM and West Texas with listing the lesser prairie chicken as endangered. This will not only affect ranchers but also the oil and gas industry.

Congressman Steve Pearce is taking the lead in fighting this with the DOI’s F&WS. He succeeded in preventing the endangered species listing of the desert sagebrush lizard by organizing conservation areas with the oil companies who ponied up big bucks in support of these. The F&WS backed off (for now) but the same Tucson enviro-Nazis who sued to prevent logging/timber thinning in spotted owl areas (i.e. everywhere - and we know how that worked out - terrible large forest fires destroying huge areas of AZ/NM the past couple of years) are suing to force the lizard listing.


27 posted on 03/24/2013 7:17:37 PM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: CedarDave

A good summary of how we stopped the lizard listing and what needs to be done to stop the chicken listing:

http://pearce.house.gov/editorial/new-mexico-jobs-are-endangeredagain


28 posted on 03/24/2013 7:20:31 PM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: CedarDave

The enviro-Nazis will try any fish, bird, worm ... trick to stop farming, ranching, fishing, logging, mining ...

Thanks for the article.


29 posted on 03/24/2013 8:00:57 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

If anyone wants to be on or off the Agenda 21 ping list, please notify me by Freepmail. It is a relatively low volume list in which we have been exploring the UN Agenda21 and related topics. We have collected our studies with threads, links, and discussions on the Agenda 21 thread which can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738418/posts

NEW ACTION THREAD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2863065/posts

Post 128 of the Action Thread is a summary of the history of Agenda 21, “what they are doing”, “what to do about it” and a good bibliography for further reading.


30 posted on 05/03/2013 10:16:04 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: dsrtsage; blackie; Jeff Head; Issaquahking; SierraWasp; redrock; GrandmaC; Washington_minuteman

“Last year, I drove from Deeth, NV to Jarbidge. Over the years (everywhere in NV), but especially in that area especially between that road and the Mary’s River, I have seen ridiculous quantities of sage chickens. “

Last time regarding Jarbidge it was the ‘endangered’ bull trout!

Jarbidge Shovel Brigade Removes ‘Liberty Rock’

http://www.sharetrails.org/node/8636


31 posted on 05/03/2013 10:30:37 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

“Jarbidge Shovel Brigade Removes ‘Liberty Rock’”

Aye, I was fortunate enough to attend that event. There was a weak group of protestors that were mostly ignored. Was fun. They even sold nice tee-shirts that said “tree huggers suck”


32 posted on 05/03/2013 11:39:15 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: dsrtsage
You were there?? With a group? You evidently weren't a freeper at that time or you'd have been at our campsite!

Sorry I missed meeting you. All our work from then is wiped from FR, sad to say.


33 posted on 05/03/2013 11:45:19 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
I think I was a freeper then, though I had lurked for a couple of years before I signed up. I wasn't there with a group (per se). Several friends and I do a yearly trip where we drive in old landcruisers from the Utah border to the California border without touching pavement (other than to cross the 3 highways). We timed and modified that trip to go to Jarbidge on that day. Here is a Jarbidge picture, (though it was before I finished rebuilding the cruiser, and I'm alot thinner now, lol)...


34 posted on 05/03/2013 12:14:55 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: TigersEye

Bump.


35 posted on 05/11/2013 4:13:50 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: dsrtsage

I guess you could say they are endangered if they happen to be on a road you’re driving on.


36 posted on 05/11/2013 4:24:18 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Cindy

We had this problem in the Alabama river with the mythical Alabama sturgeon. Only two have ever been caught and they were both Mississippi sturgeon. Feds said there COULD be an Alabama sturgeon but finally gave up.


37 posted on 05/11/2013 7:36:17 PM PDT by Himyar
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To: george76

"Look at the grouse"

38 posted on 05/11/2013 7:40:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: fella

A little long but shows that grasslands need grazing in order to be healthy.”””

Funny—Americans need the product of that grazing to be healthy, also !.


39 posted on 05/12/2013 7:13:35 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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