Abortion and Gay Marriage: Separate Issues: America today is more pro-gun, pro-life and pro-gay

National Review ^ | 03/22/2013 | Jonah Goldberg

[SoConPubbie]

I do not consider myself pro-gay. I could care less what my neighbors do in their bedrooms. That does not make me ‘pro-gay’.

If you stood by and watched your child get beat to death by a stranger, would you be complicit? How about a total stranger getting beat to death?

And while we are not talking about the immediate effect of someone losing their lives, we are talking about the death of our culture and the loss of our liberties.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

[concerned about politics]

That's because there are very few homosexuals in this country. They're a handful of social misfits. They just make a lot of noise and give a lot of money to pandering politicians.
Because they're are so little of them, should our entire culture change to accommodate them and their perverse, deadly lifestyles? Should our entire culture indoctrinate it's children into this culture of disease? Should we pretend it's a "normal and healthy lifestyle choice" and just look the other way? Really? Are you serious?
Let's just hope this new homo meningitis cleans the swamp (I never thought I'd ever feel like that, but nature will do what it has to do), before the next generation has to deal with the next plague that could affect them, too.

[concerned about politics]

It won’t be long before the incest community starts to organize

The far left (funded by NAMBLA) started the move toward pedophilia during the Clinton administration.
I heard on FOX about a college class that's teaching bestiality along with all their other vile acts, too.

[Viennacon]

Exactly. That was at Yale. Polygamy will be next. It’s already beginning in Netherlands.

[Hildred Castaigne]

And I’d probably still prefer civil unions if we had settled on some arrangement that conferred the economic and legal benefits of traditional marriage without calling it marriage.

This is actually a topic I don't see discussed very much. No one talks about how a civil union isn't worth the paper it's printed on, how it's completely legally inferior to a marriage and can be busted by anyone with a tenuous blood relation. Oh, Nephew Bob has died and his civil union partner is going inherit? Not so fast! Uncle Hildred is going to bust into court, claim blood relation, and bogart the stuff!

[Sans-Culotte]

READ THIS THREAD. This is the type of BS that goes hand in hand with normalizing homosexuality via marriage, etc.; and in MASSachussetts, no less.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”I do not consider myself pro-gay. I could care less what my neighbors do in their bedrooms. That does not make me ‘pro-gay’.”
.......
If you stood by and watched your child get beat to death by a stranger, would you be complicit? How about a total stranger getting beat to death? “

I think I understand what Perdogg was getting at with that: if they want to hurt themselves (worst case) then why should I go out on a limb to stop them???, and very long weak limb these days (weak limb as the rapid and huge change in public opinion on this) That is a valid point.

Its in contrast with the libs who on every other issue like the soda's we drink they want to control us but this particular dangerous sort of sex is a constitutional right, to them.

My issue is this civil rights victim status creep that goes on , like O Connor joining the libs on the court to make same sex sodomy a US a constitutional right. They are a protected victim minority because of their feelings.

Reminds me of one of my favorite freepers from past times name :genetic homophobe

[stephenjohnbanker]

” The agenda is the destruction of the family resulting in total dependence on the State.

The left looks at 1984 as an instruction manual.”

Exactly.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” From what I have seen on gays there is no-one effectively arguing why that lifestyle is bad.
Only one side makes the case “

FACT.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

National Review has been taken over by the gaystapo...

Dust off the soles of your feet.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

GOLDBERG MENTIONS THE NAZIs ???

If it wasn’t for white heterosexual Christians with guns, Jonah would be a lampshade today.

[SoFloFreeper]

Way to screw it up, Jonah Goldberg. Going pro-sodomy.

[Impy]

I am considered 3/5ths of a gay.

Wow, you SHOULD do this a living. That was Coutleresque (I mean that as a compliment, she is a good writer even if she's an idiot sometimes).

For most of my childhood there was a gay couple living right next door to me. My dad said they were brothers, when I grew up I realized one was Puerto Rican and the other wasn't. Whatever, they never bothered anyone.

I'm really sick of these activists acting like we want to come into their bedrooms or discotheque bathrooms and knock them out of their lover's arms. Not even with a ten foot pole would I do that! Screw your little gay hearts out just stop calling me a bigot cause I don't support giving you special and brand new legal and social protections, okay?

[sickoflibs]

RE :”I'm really sick of these activists acting like we want to come into their bedrooms or discotheque bathrooms and knock them out of their lover's arms. Not even with a ten foot pole would I do that! Screw your little gay hearts out just stop calling me a bigot cause I don't support giving you special and brand new legal and social protections, okay?”

State sanctioned, licenced and rewarded sodomy. That is what they demand and it looks like they have convinced too many people its a constitutional right.

I saw Ralf Reed, Gary Bauer and Tony Perkins on the three Sunday shows trying to make the contrary case, but they were on their own and they came off a bit weak I guess to not offend anyone.

Contrast with Wayne LaPierre on NBC who came out swinging and made Bloomy the poster-boy of nanny state.

Rand Paul was on FNS and I get the impression that he is for same-sex marriage but is not ready to state it clearly, unlike Nicole Wallace from Bush administration who is now a outspoken 'marriage equality' avdocate. Rand was dancing with his words again like with illegal immigration.

[Impy]

I saw Ralf Reed, Gary Bauer and Tony Perkins on the three Sunday shows trying to make the contrary case, but they were on their own and they came off a bit weak I guess to not offend anyone.

As you've mentioned we have no voice on this issue. It's no wonder we've losing. We've allowed the other side to completely control the conversation. Guns is the one issue where we haven't and surprise surprise, the public is on our side.

As the useful idiot Goldberg points out in the article civil unions is now a conservative fall back position, just like keeping don't ask don't tell became the Republican position, suddenly the GOP was championing what the right strongly opposed in the early 90's because the ground has shifted under us while we've done nothing. We need a message and it can't be bible quotes.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” As the useful idiot Goldberg points out in the article civil unions is now a conservative fall back position, just like keeping don’t ask don’t tell became the Republican position, suddenly the GOP was championing what the right strongly opposed in the early 90’s because the ground has shifted under us while we’ve done nothing. “

Yep. our party has done nothing on this cause. Scared, as usual.