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Berlin Won’t Join Effort to Ban Far-Right Party
The New York Times ^ | March 20, 2013 | MELISSA EDDY

Posted on 03/20/2013 8:17:18 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Chancellor Angela Merkel’s center-right government said Wednesday that it would not try to ban a far-right political party deemed “racist, anti-Semitic and revisionist” by domestic intelligence, choosing instead to focus on combating neo-Nazi extremism through other channels.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban; german; party; right
Lets get this straight, regardless of what the article or German government says, the NAZIs were the National Socialist Party. They were NOT RIGHT WING. They were Fascists.

Totalitarianism in all it's forms is evil. (Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Fascism, Communism, Dictatorship)

1 posted on 03/20/2013 8:17:18 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

You can’t really equate right and left in Europe with what right and left are in America. The european “far right” is like a slightly more honest American far left.


2 posted on 03/20/2013 8:21:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Texas Fossil

And guess which party some want to ban in Germany.

“National Democratic Party”

Sounds pretty Leftist to me. (Neo Nazis)


3 posted on 03/20/2013 8:21:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: cripplecreek

I agree that they all are Leftists.

But the NAZIs (National Socialists) were Leftists. Fascists. Not Right Wing.

In my mind, All Totalitarian governments are Left Wing.


4 posted on 03/20/2013 8:24:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

From our perspective yes I agree, they’re all leftists.


5 posted on 03/20/2013 8:26:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

You can’t really equate right and left in Europe with what right and left are in America. The european “far right” is like a slightly more honest American far left.
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Very true.


6 posted on 03/20/2013 8:32:16 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Texas Fossil

I don’t know the particulars of this “ultra right wing” party, but my intuition tells me that because of Germany’s recent historic past, anything that smacks of nationalism (not necessarily a bad thing), or promotion of traditional german values (again not necessarily a bad thing) will quickly be denounced by their detractors as nazi-like. It’s a no-brainer.


7 posted on 03/20/2013 8:35:59 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: cripplecreek
You can’t really equate right and left in Europe with what right and left are in America.

Well, I don't know about that, the RATs and Eurofilth socialists are pretty much cut from the same cloth.

I don't think there's any political group like Conservative Republicans anywhere else in the world.

8 posted on 03/20/2013 8:38:31 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Texas Fossil

We should reserve nazi comparisons to groups that actually deserve it... like the Obama administration, otherwise over-use will reduce its legitimacy.


9 posted on 03/20/2013 8:41:45 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I think there are some, small, comparable groups.

Left and right don’t change. The perception might, as it has in Europe, but the true definition does not. The Nazis were NOT far right. They were far left. Just not as far left as Stalin. Far right are anarchists.


10 posted on 03/20/2013 8:52:44 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Texas Fossil

“Lets get this straight, regardless of what the article or German government says, the NAZIs were the National Socialist Party. They were NOT RIGHT WING.”

Wrong, you don’t know European history, as well how right and left get twisted going from here to there.

The Nazi’s were right wing, because they were nationalists. The left over there (and here) is not nationalist, they are world view socialists (edit in communism/Marxism on a world scale). The nationalist view point makes them right wing over there.

Hope this helps, it’s a common misunderstanding thanks to our fine education system (yes I was a part of it, grammar police go away).


11 posted on 03/20/2013 9:37:16 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: Viennacon

Yeah, I agree with that...on a straight line graph.

The socialists use a circular map where Communists and Nazis are at the bottom representing totalitarianism.

I doubt American Conservatives even appear on their construct.


12 posted on 03/20/2013 9:38:28 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: foundedonpurpose

National Socialist Party was the name for the Nazi’s but they were more accurately Fascists. And they had Global designs to control most of the world. They thought they were so superior that it was their right to do so.

Nationalism in the US was a reactive product of the abuses in Europe of the Old Monarchies.

What we are observing today is a merging of the Leftists (whatever label they choose to wear), the Muzzies and the Global Fascists. The leftist intend to destroy “evil capitalism”, the Muzzies like the Nazis believe it is their destiny to rule the world and the Global Fascists think they are smart enought to control all of them. Obozo is the agent of all of them. The ChiComs call him “the monkey” and have contempt for him because they are Nationalist (in a way) and they know he is a traitor.

Totalitarianism in all it’s forms is EVIL. (Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Communism, Fascism, Dictatorship)

And the meaning of words change over time. Like Orwellian Doublespeak, which we see today. A (classic) Liberal in the 1700’s was an anti-Statist (Anti-Monarchist) but today a Liberal is a Marxist Statist. 180 degree phase shift in meaning (defined by useage) since the founding of this nation. (Orwell was right “doublespeak”)

The US was a Republic, that is a term that few today understand. It was never a Democracy and the founders knew that Democracy was a short lived form of government that ended badly. If you say that in front of a Liberal today their head seems to explode. But the founders, remember, those old dead white guys, knew that a weak federal government with very limited central authority and the remaining power distributed amoung the state and local government was the solution to the abuse of power. It was the only form of self government that achieved stability with the maximum degree of freedom for the individual.

We are experiencing the destruction of that freedom, national death by bureaucrat directed by a Totalitarian Global Cabal (that are servants of the father of lies).


13 posted on 03/21/2013 5:08:28 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
I know, preaching to the choir but I'm sick of leftist propaganda and won't stand for it any more.

National Socialism/Fascism are left wing totalitarian power constructs. Far right implies Libertarianism or Anarchismy. Conservative Constitutional Representative Republics are a moderate power construct run by RULE OF LAW not "the mob".

14 posted on 03/21/2013 5:15:13 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: foundedonpurpose
The Nazi’s were right wing, because they were nationalists. The left over there (and here) is not nationalist, they are world view socialists (edit in communism/Marxism on a world scale). The nationalist view point makes them right wing over there.

Not true. You cannot reconcile national socialism NOR fascism as a right wing power construct since it clearly is a mechanism of the totalitarian state. Right wing political philosophies range from Republics to Libertarianism and finally into Anarchism, which is the absence of any governing authority. Totalitarian states are uniformly left wing.

I don't care what they say "over there", they are obviously a great lot of left wing idiots.

15 posted on 03/21/2013 5:18:41 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

agreed


16 posted on 03/21/2013 5:20:48 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Caipirabob
I look at the use of "National" in the term National Socialist as simply a formality differentiating the philosophy in name, only. The results and methods were too close to socialism to make much a difference in the results.

Nationalism is a tool utilized by all totalitarian states as a means of mustering the populace behind any given tyrannical act. Nazis being not much different than Stalinist Russia. In fact, Hitler and Stalin mutually admired each other, their beliefs were very similar in their competing ideologies for the implementation and maintenance of the socialist totalitarian state.

Again, the European scale is obviously incorrect, misleading and probably why they are totally, completely screwed all over again. I wonder who can possibly pulled their soon to be charred butts out of the fire this time? Ain't nobody got time fo dat...

17 posted on 03/21/2013 5:36:33 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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