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To: expat1000

You have a hard time believing something?

Does that offer any insight into the actual facts of what happened?

No.

My take would be...and to me this is common sense...a person who is so impaired they are like “falling down drunk” could very well realize that they are being raped, attacked in ways other than rape, whatever the case, while at the same time they can’t muster the normal brain cells to respond appropriately and in self-defense.

Can’t get into her mind and know what she knew at the time, but knowing is different from being capable of doing something appropriately defensive about it.

Ever heard of the date rape drug?

Hmmmmm?


41 posted on 03/19/2013 12:24:22 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

Don’t get your panties in a twist. Pulling in speculation about drugs out of thin air offers insights into your defensiveness only.


43 posted on 03/19/2013 12:30:33 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: txrangerette; expat1000

I was at a dinner party about nine or ten years ago with other adults (no one under 30) and drank ONE glass of wine which made me need to go and collapse on a bed. There were only about ten people there (all co-workers of a girlfriend of mine, who I was with) and this was certainly no sex/drug/rock and roll get together. . .seriously, a dinner party with men AND women (equally mixed). I am a regular drinker, and certainly have NEVER had that sort of reaction from alcohol (regular drinker, not excessive drinker). Thank god my girlfriend was keeping an eye on the door of the bedroom I was passed out in because one of the guys came into the room and began kissing me when she came in behind him.
We immediately left and got into a cab, and she had to get my HUSBAND (who was home watching the kids) to get me out of the taxi and bring me into the house. I called a doctor friend the next morning who was emphatic that it was the date-rape drug, but because it passes through your system so quickly, there would be no way to prove it.

I certainly didn’t flirt with any of the guys or in other ways suggest I was interested, and boy (!) was it hard to explain to my husband. (Which really sucked since I was a certainly an unwilling participant).

A teenager who didn’t have experience drinking could ABSOLUTELY be completely unconscious while being raped if she had been given whatever I was given. There is no doubt in my mind that the one glass of wine I drank was dosed with something.


312 posted on 03/19/2013 4:20:28 PM PDT by Rutabega (If you don't want me in your personal affairs, don't stick your hand out for my help.)
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