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To: expat1000

I’ve seen cops do things that would get them kicked off of most ranges.


21 posted on 03/16/2013 3:38:41 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

>>I’ve seen cops do things that would get them kicked off of most ranges.

Yep. Also I knew one that shot himself in the foot mishandling his own personal 1911 getting out of his car after coming back from the range. The force covered it up - not only the accident but as this was in Canada the gun should have been unloaded and stored in a case. Carrying in a holster and loaded outside the range were both crimes.


28 posted on 03/16/2013 5:08:42 AM PDT by expat1000
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"I’ve seen cops do things that would get them kicked off of most ranges."

I have asked Police Officers to exit the range, during training classes, for their behavior.
Safety violations were not tolerated and would not be condoned by continuing with them in attendance in the classes I was providing.
Sadly, this was an all too common behavior.

33 posted on 03/16/2013 6:32:04 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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*** I’ve seen cops do things that would get them kicked off of most ranges. ***

Yeah, some cops aren't exactly 'the sharpest knife in the drawer'. Case in point the Chicago PD.

In Chicago all cops have to buy their own duty weapon (which is good IMO). And there's a list of approved manufacturers that cops can choose from along with approved calibers: 9mm, 357Sig, 40S&W & iirc 45ACP. But this is where is gets ... 'interesting' (dumb).

Rookies -- from graduating the Academy to 1 year of service *may* buy and use a Glock 9mm for their duty weapon. However after that time Glocks of any caliber are FORBIDDEN for all cops, period, no exception. And that ex-Rookie must now dump another $600 min on a new duty weapon and put that Glock 9mm back in the 'dresser drawer' as his personal / off-duty weapon (or trade it in or sell it, most don't).

The Reason for Glock Ban -- a 'few' years ago a CPD Commander shot himself in the leg with his Glock. Natch, the Commander blamed the Glock for the ... 'accidental discharge' (LOL) and had the big brass ban all Glocks as duty weapons. But again, not for Rookies, only 'veteran' cops.

Now if Glocks are so unsafe why would they be allowed at all? Are the lives of Rookie cops worth less than 'veterans'? If not why can they use Glocks but then must sh*t-can them at one year. It makes zero sense.

Now I'm far from a Cop Basher. I wanted to be a Chi Cop when I was in HS and had many friends on the CPD over my time. And I listen to CPD Radio calls every day, like right now. But today, I wouldn't do their job for $250K a year with the crap they have to put up with and the absolute JUNK they have to work with. Not to mention they're undermanned by at least 3,000 Cops today. Some cops say they need 5,000 more.

Here's a neat Blog to get the skinny on what really is going on with the CPD and the REAL CRIME in Chicago: Second City Cop. It's run by a Pro 2A Chi Copper and he doesn't hold back.
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45 posted on 03/16/2013 7:33:25 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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