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Shooting in Herkimer, New York kills four.
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Posted on 03/13/2013 3:22:11 PM PDT by karatemom

SWAT teams have moved in on a jewelry store in upstate New York where a man accused of killing four people and wounding two others is in hiding.

The Herkimer Police Department confirmed that the suspect fired shots at police officers.

A black armored vehicle and a track-driven robot with a camera on top rolled up in front of Glory Days Food and Spirits in the village of Herkimer on Wednesday afternoon as officers surrounded blocks of shops topped with apartments

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/13/4-dead-2-injured-in-upstate-new-york-shooting-spree-manhunt-underway/#ixzz2NSeTnWRz

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1 posted on 03/13/2013 3:22:11 PM PDT by karatemom
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To: karatemom
"surrounded blocks of shops topped with apartments"

When surrounding just one block is enough, SWAT goes the extra mile!

2 posted on 03/13/2013 3:40:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: karatemom

No motive reported. Sounds like a quiet little town. Weird.


3 posted on 03/13/2013 3:43:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: karatemom

Good thing they banned guns.


4 posted on 03/13/2013 3:47:59 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: colorado tanker

I have a friend who lives there ... the kids have been on lockdown at school and she’s understandably anxious. I think Remington has a factory (?) there or near there, and they’re hoping that the medi-uh doesn’t attack that too.


5 posted on 03/13/2013 3:49:50 PM PDT by bootless ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."~RWR)
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To: colorado tanker

On edit: The kids are home now.


6 posted on 03/13/2013 3:50:49 PM PDT by bootless ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."~RWR)
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To: colorado tanker

Perhaps they were armed Wiccans looking for

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herkimer_diamond

?


7 posted on 03/13/2013 3:53:03 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: broken_arrow1

I heard this guy used a shot gun but most of the media will probably leave that little nugget out....


8 posted on 03/13/2013 4:06:35 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: karatemom

Boy that new gun control is really working well up there.


9 posted on 03/13/2013 4:19:00 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: martinidon

Someone took Biden’s advice, perhaps?


10 posted on 03/13/2013 4:20:10 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: karatemom

I believe I worked with Michael Renshaw, the NY State Correction Officer who was killed. I retired in 2003, and haven’t seen him since that time.


11 posted on 03/13/2013 4:21:51 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: colorado tanker
"Sounds like a quiet little town."

It is a quiet little town on Route 5. There's a Thruway exit for it. Town named after the Herkimer family. General Nicholas Herkimer was wounded at the Battle of Oriskany (American Revolution), and died of his wounds at his home in Little Falls, NY. The home is a state historic site. Little Falls, Herkimer, and Ilion, where Remington Arms is located, are all within a short distance of each other.

12 posted on 03/13/2013 4:28:29 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: karatemom

No problem. Only one guy. All the SWAT team needs is one 10 round magazine. That is what the Libs tell me.


13 posted on 03/13/2013 4:32:04 PM PDT by Starstruck (I need a 30 round magazine because liberal whine gives me a buzz.)
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To: broken_arrow1

He did what the VP said. He bought a shotgun.


14 posted on 03/13/2013 4:47:17 PM PDT by Wiggins
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To: colorado tanker
Well, quiet little towns in NY have been known to produce some interesting types.

John Brown, of Harper's Ferry notoriety, had a farm in the Adirondacks (near Lake Placid) when he was hung for "treason" by the state (Commonwealth?) of VA.

A presidential assassin (Garfield or McKinley) was once part of the sex cult/commune in Oneida, NY.

15 posted on 03/13/2013 4:50:35 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Starstruck

You are WRONG! Here in NY they would only need a SEVEN round mag. Ask King Cuomo.

Ah, this is a shame, Herkimer is a nice little town that I visit about twice a year. I like going to the Herkimer Diamond Mine (looks like a tortured moonscape) and scraping around in the dirt. In fact, I have a big bag of Herkimer dirt out in my garage that I have yet to “mine”.

There really is nothing of note around there, just a simple little upstate type town. Remington is a stones throw away, and we visited there the last time we were in town.

My prayers go out to the people up there, and the friends and family of those who were killed.

I swear this is making me begin to believe the conspiracy theories about the sudden uptick in so many mass shootings.


16 posted on 03/13/2013 5:03:17 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Calvin Locke
John Brown, of Harper's Ferry notoriety, had a farm in the Adirondacks (near Lake Placid) when he was hung for "treason" by the state (Commonwealth?) of VA.

HANGED! One is HANGED! When a person is executed by having a rope tied around his or her neck and then dropping through a trap door, that person is said TO HAVE BEEN HANGED!

Ahem. Thank you.

17 posted on 03/13/2013 5:12:12 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Calvin Locke
I know it sounds weird. I know it looks weird.

It's like in baseball, right? When a guy strikes out on fly balls, they say "he flied out," right?

Well, there you go.

18 posted on 03/13/2013 5:14:42 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
SWAT could have used one of these ...


19 posted on 03/13/2013 5:20:20 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Ladysforest

Sorry. Sometimes I go overboard with my anger of what the Libs want to do to our rights. I do want the LEO’s to be heavily armed in a situation like this and I do feel sorry for the victims. Pointing out the hypocrisy of liberal positions on gun control is something I will continue to do but I will also say a prayer for the victims.


20 posted on 03/13/2013 5:21:38 PM PDT by Starstruck (I need a 30 round magazine because liberal whine gives me a buzz.)
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To: Steely Tom

I BEG your pardon, sir. I am hung.


21 posted on 03/13/2013 5:28:58 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver
I BEG your pardon, sir. I am hung.

That's all right.

22 posted on 03/13/2013 5:30:54 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Starstruck

No sorry needed. I snark about that ass Cuomo and his damn seven rounds every chance I get.

And of course he rushed to Herkimer within a couple of hours of the last shooting so that he could grandstand on the bodies just a stones throw from Ilion and the Remington factory. I hate that fing commie.

Humph-I sound angry. Sorry if I offend anyone.


23 posted on 03/13/2013 6:12:18 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: martinidon

Did they ever report what kind of shotgun? Double barrel, pump, semi-auto?

BTW - Nothing in Little Andy’s tyrannical gun grab would have touched this. You can’t stop a violent crazy person with a law. You need a gun.


24 posted on 03/13/2013 7:17:51 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Ladysforest
I live in Rome, NY, and remember taking my kids to the Diamond Mine when they were little. In an earlier posting, I stated that I knew one of the men killed today. I worked with Mike Renshaw at Midstate Correctional Facility in Marcy, NY. I was a Sergeant at the time. The Union press release states that Mike had 23 years in the department. As well, a retired Correction Officer was also killed by the same perp...at the barbershop. Mike Ransear had 18 years in the department. He had retired from Mohawk Correctional Facility, which is a hop, skip, and a jump from where I live. I don't believe I knew him. Here's the link to the Union's press release:

Officers Killed

25 posted on 03/13/2013 7:26:40 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Steely Tom

Steely, I feel your pain.....


26 posted on 03/13/2013 7:44:05 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: Steely Tom

Pictures are hung....people hanged.


27 posted on 03/13/2013 7:46:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Steely Tom

Sounds strange, but conveys the meaning better than “he flew out.”


28 posted on 03/14/2013 2:46:55 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: karatemom
I live in Herkimer, yesterday just about all the busineeses were shut down. Tens of State Police and Home Land Security took over N Main sT. The shooter was holed up in the Glory Days Restuarant that has been closed about 5 years. About 30 minutes ago, a State Police/FBI team entered the building with a dog, and located the shooter in the basement. Shooter shot the dog, and the SP/FBI team shot and killed the shooter. Game over
29 posted on 03/14/2013 5:31:28 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Bruce Kurtz

Prayers up for your community and the families of those who were killed.


30 posted on 03/14/2013 6:39:49 AM PDT by karatemom
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To: Calvin Locke

It was good to be a guy in the Oneida Community. :-))


31 posted on 03/14/2013 9:50:49 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: mass55th

OK now. So two of those people murdered were corrections officers, the others were in the wrong place at the time this guy went nuts. It seems too much of a coincidence that two of those killed were officers.


32 posted on 03/14/2013 12:39:26 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest
"It seems too much of a coincidence that two of those killed were officers."

One was still working, while the other had retired. They were from different facilities in the Mohawk Valley. They were killed in two different villages. It does seem strange, but so far there has been no link found between the victims and the perp, and no motive discovered for the shootings.

33 posted on 03/14/2013 1:20:55 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
One was still working, while the other had retired. They were from different facilities in the Mohawk Valley. They were killed in two different villages. It does seem strange, but so far there has been no link found between the victims and the perp, and no motive discovered for the shootings.

More than likely a situation involving some long-past incident of infidelity on the part of someone. No one is going to talk.

Proverbs 6:32 The one who commits adultery with a woman is lacking sense; he who would destroy himself does it.
Proverbs 6:33 Wounds and disgrace he will find, and his reproach will not be blotted out.
Proverbs 6:34 For jealousy enrages a man, and he will not spare in the day of vengeance.
Proverbs 6:35 He will not accept any ransom, nor will he be content though you give many gifts.

34 posted on 03/14/2013 8:42:01 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I don't believe there was any case of infidelity involved. I think the guy was a whack job, probably a paranoid-schizophrenic. Below is the link to an article that appeared in the Auburn (NY) Citizen today. There's comments from his old boss, and some neighbors. The comments are pretty telling in regards to his personality and behavior.

Ex-boss: Herkimer County rampage suspect was 'spooky' recently

35 posted on 03/14/2013 9:10:18 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

It was on the internet, must be true.


36 posted on 03/15/2013 4:19:09 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

LOL! I love that commercial.


37 posted on 03/15/2013 8:53:36 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Guy goes nuts, gets a gun, kills some people.

Obviously a situation the Founding Fathers never foresaw.

Great excuse to do away with the Second Amendment. And maybe the First and the Fourth while we’re at it.

/s


38 posted on 03/15/2013 6:13:51 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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