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Mark Kelly’s story on AR-15 purchase prompts skeptical open letter
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 12 March, 2013 | David Codrea

Posted on 03/12/2013 6:31:14 PM PDT by marktwain

Dear Capt. Kelly,

Houston, we have a problem: Your story makes no sense.

You’re against rifles like the semiautomatic AR-15, which look like weapons of war, when you know full well the military doesn’t use them, but instead uses the select fire-capable M16. Yet you go to a dealer to buy a .45, a sidearm, which was actually, in your words, “designed for the military.” I’m not following your logic here.

You say as you were leaving the gun store, you noticed a used AR-15 and bought that, too. You then complain about your background check, and use that to attack private sales which don’t undergo background checks. I’m not following your logic here.

You say you have not taken possession of the gun yet, but when you do will turn it over to the Tucson Police. Why? If you wanted to buy them a gun, you could have just given them the money. If you wanted to prove how easy undocumented sales are, you could have bought one privately and taken possession of it instead of going through the trouble of proving you’re not a prohibited person. I’m not following your logic here.

The most troubling thing is, you didn’t “admit” that was your intent until after your purchase had been reported by alternative media and people were commenting on what appears to be hypocrisy of the highest order, compounded with implausible excuse-making. You then told CNN that making a Facebook announcement was something you and your “people” had a plan for, but you didn’t know when, like it’s some kind of big decision you have to consult a team on. I’m not following your logic here.

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To: ctdonath2
a 12ga pistol

Please, don't make me use this. No, seriously, please, please, please - don't make me use this. This will hurt me more than it hurts you (almost). :-)

41 posted on 03/13/2013 8:04:24 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Dead Corpse

“...is a straw purchase and a felony......”

Nah, He’ll be a felon just like the moron Agent of the State who touched off a round in a classroom full of kids a few years back.

He’s one of “The Onliest Ones” - you know, the Onliest One who be’s professhnul’nuff to handle dis here GLock40...BANG!


42 posted on 03/13/2013 8:38:28 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Standing Wolf

He reminds me of the child pornography collectors who try to claim they’re merely “researching” child pornography.


That was precisely my first reaction to this story.


43 posted on 03/13/2013 8:57:36 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: Dead Corpse

Buying a gun with intent to turn around and give it to someone else like that is a straw purchase and a felony...


I believe you’re wrong.


44 posted on 03/13/2013 8:58:04 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: Standing Wolf
He reminds me of the child pornography collectors who try to claim they’re merely “researching” child pornography

That is one shrewd observation.

45 posted on 03/13/2013 9:02:36 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: umgud

Didn’t think of that. His plans probably changed whe he got caught buying it.


46 posted on 03/13/2013 9:27:01 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Standing Wolf

“Surfing porn? Why, no, dear; I was only researching it!”


47 posted on 03/13/2013 9:29:17 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Hardastarboard

Slugs hurt the most. Big, full power, 1.5 oz, fast-impulse slugs. Your thumb will hate you. And you will laugh very hard.


48 posted on 03/13/2013 9:54:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: Travis McGee
An American “astronaut” in 2013 is sort of a joke that sums up the state of our collapsing nation.

How will this “astronaut” get into space? Jumping? Flapping his arms?




Jose Jimenez is a leg up on Mark Kelly.
49 posted on 03/13/2013 10:50:23 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Dead Corpse
Buying a gun with intent to turn around and give it to someone else like that is a straw purchase and a felony...

Yup. The form 4473, that he had to sign, specifically states that the buyer is not purchasing the gun on behalf of anyone else.

Kelly also said that he plans to sell the gun across state lines and eventually turn it over to the police. Unless he sells it to a police officer, I'm not sure how he can do both. But in any case, right now Kelly's a hypocrite. If he hands the weapon over to the police, as he said he wants to, that would make him a felon. And I think depending on the state, if he tries to sell the gun across state lines, that could compound the felony.

50 posted on 03/13/2013 11:32:30 AM PDT by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Who supervises who can and cannot get a gun license in Arizona?


51 posted on 03/13/2013 6:17:00 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Nobody. If you’re not a prohibited person (criminal record; felon) you’ll pass the ‘instant background check’ NICS system. Then you get your gun. That’s nationwide, but not a ‘permit’. It’s a background check. Some states tack a waiting period on this, but that’s a state code.

Arizona, like most Western USA states, doesn’t require any say-so, approval, permit, license, or notification of the local sheriff or police force. Most US states are this way. The states where there’s a law requiring the sheriff or police to issue a ‘gun permit’ are all pretty much New England states, and Illinois.


52 posted on 03/13/2013 8:17:10 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Thanks for the information. So you know anything about how Jerald Loughner was able to attain a gun when he he was obviously not sane?


53 posted on 03/13/2013 8:21:11 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Criminals never have any problem obtaining guns. They don’t obey laws, by definition. I could drive down to downtown Syracuse and buy a couple pistols right now if I didn’t care about breaking the law. Once I decide to shoot up some folks, any gun law is just a technicality.


54 posted on 03/13/2013 8:32:33 PM PDT by ez (Laws only apply to little people. Criminals, politicians, and newsies are exempt.)
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To: cradle of freedom

And PS...it’s Jerod.


55 posted on 03/13/2013 8:33:19 PM PDT by ez (Laws only apply to little people. Criminals, politicians, and newsies are exempt.)
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To: cradle of freedom

Because not one person that Loughner brushed up against that knew he was apecrap nuts, not his psychiatrists nor school administrators who kicked him out of school, nor the police who held him for psychiatric observation, ever said a word about it. Loughner was never adjudicated away to the looney bin, and thus he never showed up as a prohibited person on the NICS check.

He bought the guns legally. He shouldn’t have been able to, legally. We need to change that. See my tag line.

Unfortunately, the looney lovers nationwide don’t want nut jobs stigmatized if they seek mental health help. They insist on HIPAA anonymity for mental patients, which is both good and bad I suppose. We do want people to get ‘help’, even though that just means doping them up on prescription goo-goo pills like SSRIs that so much of America is already using, most notably just about every recent young spree killer who’s murdered people with guns. Gosh, they even advertise crazy pills on television: “All those screaming kids around your house too much for you, Mrs. Suburbia? Ask your doctor about new Wellbutrin XL!”

Nobody wants to talk about sending people to the rubber room. It’s off-limits. It’s easier and politically beneficial to just blame the NRA.


56 posted on 03/13/2013 11:11:00 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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