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California Seizes Guns As Owners Lose Right To Keep Arms
Western Journalism Center ^ | March 12, 2013 | none stated

Posted on 03/12/2013 5:20:49 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Wearing bulletproof vests and carrying 40-caliber Glock pistols, nine California Justice Department agents assembled outside a ranch-style house in a suburb east of Los Angeles. They were looking for a gun owner who’d recently spent two days in a mental hospital.

They knocked on the door and asked to come in. About 45 minutes later, they came away peacefully with three firearms.

California is the only state that tracks and disarms people with legally registered guns who have lost the right to own them, according to Attorney General Kamala Harris. Almost 20,000 gun owners in the state are prohibited from possessing firearms, including convicted felons, those under a domestic violence restraining order or deemed mentally unstable.

“What do we do about the guns that are already in the hands of persons who, by law, are considered too dangerous to possess them?” Harris said in a letter to Vice President Joe Biden after a Connecticut school shooting in December left 26 dead. She recommended that Biden, heading a White House review of gun policy, consider California as a national model.

As many as 200,000 people nationwide may no longer be qualified to own firearms, according to Garen Wintemute, director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis. Other states may lack confiscation programs because they don’t track purchases as closely as California, which requires most weapons sales go through a licensed dealer and be reported.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; confiscation; gun; guncontrol; mental; secondamendment
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To: Las Vegas Ron
You're joking, right? You think they give a damn about getting sued when they don't pay the price? When they start prosecuting the violators and holding them criminally responsible, then stripping them of their pensions instead of the tax payers, be sure to alert me.

Agreed.

At minimum, victims of such abuse should collect the names of all involved in such actions and anonymously publish those names on sites calculated to inflame interested parties.

61 posted on 03/12/2013 6:24:34 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: CitizenUSA

The only way that can happen is when government ignores the Constitution.

We are there my FRiend.

Open defiance of the Chain our Founders Forged on our Government. The Federal Courts will not enforce the Law, except where it is in the interest of the Obozo Administration.

We are there.


62 posted on 03/12/2013 6:24:50 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Mad Dawgg

I would really like to know if a competency hearing is part of the process or if someone has to request/demand one in order for one to happen. Wondering if the person has to actually be legally declared mentally incompetent in this process or if just saying the wrong thing or seeking mental help is enough on its own.


63 posted on 03/12/2013 6:26:14 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: TigersEye

It’s “commonsense gun regulations” (gag). I hope NRA is already on it.


64 posted on 03/12/2013 6:26:25 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues)
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To: Tammy8

Because of copyright issues we are not allowed to post even excerpts from the link.

They own the news and only tell you what they want you to hear.

Freedom of the Press?? hee hee hee


65 posted on 03/12/2013 6:27:14 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Tammy8
I've heard that drugs on the premises can trigger this issue. Drugs that are for treating a mental disorder like Depression meds or meds to treat Bipolar disorder etc.
66 posted on 03/12/2013 6:29:25 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Texas Fossil

Kalifornia is really effed and you know the old saying; as goes Kalifornia..... Will the cops ever realize that it is those who are doing the confiscating under the color of authority that are breaking the law??


67 posted on 03/12/2013 6:34:11 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: drypowder

They don’t care. They are told they are doing their jobs.

Remember the Nuremberg Defence? “I was Just Following Orders.”

That is what the good little Nazi’s said in their defense.

The worst of them hanged or were shot.


68 posted on 03/12/2013 6:40:18 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“LOL...how naive....they break your door down, shoot your dog, violate you and your family in every way imaginable, then you have to spend more money than you have to get “justice”

We don’t need no steenkin warrant serf..... “

Except that they are procedurally barred specifically from entering the home. It’s voluntary surrender, unless they catch you with them in your possession.


69 posted on 03/12/2013 6:56:05 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Texas Fossil
carrying 40-caliber Glock pistols

Who in their right mind would carry out a raid with just pistols?

70 posted on 03/12/2013 6:57:34 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Texas Fossil
But I look out my door and this is still Texas where I live.

Don't forget, Kalifornians are flooding into Texas just like they did to Colorado. The infestation is ruining Colorado.

71 posted on 03/12/2013 6:57:59 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: cyn

“Common sense” and “government regulations” don’t belong in the same sentence unless the word ‘antithetical’ is also a part of it. ;-)


72 posted on 03/12/2013 7:03:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I am sure they expected no resistance.

But remember, the press thinks everything is a Glock, AK or an AR.


73 posted on 03/12/2013 7:04:07 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I hesitate to be contrary but Texas isn’t immune either.

Seems there was a little incident in Waco where a number of people were murdered and any survivor was ultimately silenced through prosecution with only the authorized version of the story permitted to be heard. The winner writes the history.

To be completely fair, I’m not sure any of us are safe from similar treatment.


74 posted on 03/12/2013 7:15:16 PM PDT by benasawin
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To: cyn
Here is another article about this woman.

Guns of Law-Abiding Husband Confiscated After Wife’s Single Voluntary Mental Health Visit

Says they wont' 'restore' her and her husband's gun rights until they do an investigation and she appears before a judge to determine her competency. I think she's on good ground to file a lawsuit. Hopefully the judge will slap those officials around pretty good. Unless he's a commie too.

75 posted on 03/12/2013 7:17:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Bshaw

So that means they go to homes with law abiding citizens, not the felons.


76 posted on 03/12/2013 7:32:39 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks for the link.

So she gave them permission to enter her home at **8 pm** — what on earth possessed her to invite them in for tea and crumpets??? Who would even opens the door at that time... where was her husband? (As an aside, it crossed my mind that vampires cannot enter a home without an invitation, either.)


77 posted on 03/12/2013 7:33:16 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues)
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To: benasawin

I remember all too well. And there is some validity to what you say. But I still know public officials who are contrary to that.

I think the State of Texas takes a very different view of Federal Involvement after Waco and Ruby Ridge.

The Justice Department and the BATF both hid the crimes but the public knows they took place.

There have been other smaller insane incidents.

We must not only defeat this enemy of the nation but we must put the criminals behind them in jail. From the top to the bottom.


78 posted on 03/12/2013 7:44:07 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Bernard Marx
...no one in law enforcement seems a bit interested in seizing their weapons: the Crips, Bloods, Fifth Street Gang, the Mexican Mafia, MS-13, the 38th St. Gang,violent drug-financed motorcycle gangs and so on. Where's the focus on the real criminals?

Real criminals shoot back at cops. Most law-abiding citizens don't. Cops like to go home each night after their shift.

When the law-abiding finally become de facto 'criminals' because they refuse to obey tyrannical gun laws, then cops will stop focusing on them too.

79 posted on 03/12/2013 7:47:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Too messy.

Just fire in the pyrotechnic CS grenades until the house is aflame, then wait for the ashes to cool down and rake out the melted guns.

From Waco to Big Bear Lake, it’s proven effective.


80 posted on 03/12/2013 7:53:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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