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Colorado Senate give final OK to gun control bills
AP ^ | 03/11/13 | By KRISTEN WYATT

Posted on 03/11/2013 5:44:47 PM PDT by oxcart

DENVER (AP) -- A gun control package pushed by Colorado Democrats cleared the state Senate on Monday, as sponsors described it as a needed response to Colorado's blood-soaked history of mass shootings.

One Democrat after another rose Monday to talk about restricting gun rights after last July's shooting at a suburban Denver movie theater. The vote came on the eve of an expected plea by the alleged gunman, James Holmes, who is accused of killing 12 people and injuring dozens more.

The measures approved by the Senate included a limit on the kinds of high-capacity ammunition magazines Holmes is accused of using in the theater shooting. Other measures included expanded background checks on private gun sales and a new ban on gun ownership for people facing domestic violence charges.

Republicans argued in vain that the gun controls would not have prevented the theater shooting, nor the school massacre last December in Newtown, Conn. Some cited the 1999 Columbine High School shootings outside Denver.

Democrats stood firm.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; colorado; communism; communists; coup; gun; guncontrol; progressiveagenda; secondamendment
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1 posted on 03/11/2013 5:44:47 PM PDT by oxcart
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To: oxcart

As if those who created the “blood soaked history” would give a rip about new gun laws. No wonder the folks think politicians are ignorant.


2 posted on 03/11/2013 5:47:03 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: oxcart
"Democrats stood grabbed firmly."
3 posted on 03/11/2013 5:48:43 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: oxcart

Sayonara, Magpul!


4 posted on 03/11/2013 5:49:52 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: oxcart
Democrats stood firm.

What a crock. I traveled much of Colorado for many years. I know the natives, especially away from the cities. They have been overun by many from CA since then, but I suspect the Commie Dems will pay a dear price at the next elections. There are a lot of hunters and shooters in CO.

5 posted on 03/11/2013 5:51:19 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: oxcart
Holmes had a high capacity magazine but didn't use it. It jammed right away.

Had all these bills been in effect, none would have changed anything about the Aurora tragedy.

This is just Democrats using a tragedy to gin up enough emotion for them to use to ram through part of their agenda.

6 posted on 03/11/2013 5:51:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: oxcart

Never thought this Rocky Mountain state would go weenie.

Live long enough, see everything.


7 posted on 03/11/2013 5:52:59 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: From The Deer Stand

Make no mistake, ignorance is not an issue with gun control. Their is a specific agenda and they know exactly what they are attempting to accomplish.


8 posted on 03/11/2013 5:55:52 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: oxcart

Not only have I’ve been following this debacle, I work for a company in Denver (although I work remotely in another state).

I’ve been forced to decide whether I want to stay on with this company, as they’re involved in the media branch, and mostly lib infested.

Time to go job hunting I guess...


9 posted on 03/11/2013 5:57:48 PM PDT by tickedoffnow (No more...)
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To: oxcart
The essence of the Democrap Party in action: PRACTICING THE POLITICS OF FEAR, DIVISION, and HATRED!
10 posted on 03/11/2013 6:00:23 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Jack Hammer

“Never thought this Rocky Mountain state would go weenie.”

Yeah, know what you mean. But, as another poster correctly pointed out, the state has been taken over by Californians. These folks destroyed one state and are now bent on destroying another. Stupid is as stupid does I suppose....


11 posted on 03/11/2013 6:05:48 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: colorado tanker

Hi cap mag discussions are meaningless. It takes less than two seconds for a mag change. Furthermore anyone who carries should carry a spare mag in case of a malfunction.


12 posted on 03/11/2013 6:06:20 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: oxcart

This happens when you vote for democrats.


13 posted on 03/11/2013 6:14:04 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Cobra64
Unfortunately, normal cap mag bans aren't meaningless at all. They're a foot in the door for disarmament, to be followed by others in due time. They're only meaningless for reducing violent crime (which is probably what you meant).
14 posted on 03/11/2013 6:14:48 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: aomagrat
This is what happens when other people who outnumber you vote for democrats.
15 posted on 03/11/2013 6:15:25 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: oxcart

“One Democrat after another rose Monday to talk about restricting gun rights.....> of law abiding citizens <”

That should be the headline.


16 posted on 03/11/2013 6:17:43 PM PDT by Principle Over Politics (Is this a free country or what?)
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To: coloradan

It ought to be a capital offense for liberals to relocate
From the bankrupt sesspools they created!


17 posted on 03/11/2013 6:19:44 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: oxcart
Colorado now goes on my "do not enter" list of states. I will also try to avoid doing business with any company in CO that has not already declared its opposition to gun control.

Magpul, I will buy dozens more of your magazines.

18 posted on 03/11/2013 6:24:18 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: aomagrat

Essentially we have three types of Democrats. The naive, the honest, and the liar.

The naive and the liar is what they start with when they move into a Red state. Then when they seize power the liar starts being honest. Colorado had a ton of naive Democrats. That allowed the liars to take control. Now the question is if the naive Democrats will stop being Democrats and start knocking down the liars and the honest Dem alike.

Look to the Northeast. Sixty years ago Dems were a minority. Conservatism was fairly popular. Since then it’s been nearly eradicated there.

The purpose of the Democrat is to eradicate conservatism. Conservatism doesn’t exist to eradicate Democrats. So it’s a fight only they’re winning because they’re the only ones throwing the punches.


19 posted on 03/11/2013 6:27:04 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: colorado tanker

Please Colorado Tanker: Don’t confuse the Democrats with the truth. Otherwise, they would be Republicans.

Cry for me Colorado!


20 posted on 03/11/2013 6:35:57 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Texas Fossil

happens down on the south too, the locusts move on mass to the south from the north just as they ove on mass to CO from CA

They then want their drugs to be legal to get high whilst banning constitutional rights like guns.

It;s such a shame that these parasites move to the south and mountain states and then want it changed to look like the cess pits they moved from.

All they want is a hippie, druggie, homo, turd poking way of life and then shut freedom for the people away from Gvt and they vote for the Govt , a big Govt.

We need a wall alright, it;s on the Potomac and the border of CA


21 posted on 03/11/2013 6:36:47 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: oxcart

Lived here my entire life. A sad day for my state, a sad day indeed. :(


22 posted on 03/11/2013 6:37:09 PM PDT by MissTed ( Private Tagline - Do Not Read!)
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To: VRWCarea51

ses my other posts on this thread if you get a chance, I;m sick and others are too of these northern liberal druggie,anal sex feces loving, moving here and changing our states.
It sounds like CO has been infested too by those CA hippie peace loons/\


23 posted on 03/11/2013 6:39:40 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: oxcart

Here’s some help with a couple of misperceptions.

1. Most of the Coloradans I’ve met were environmentalists, animal worshipers, drug abusers, etc., paid either directly by government or by government-connected services. Most of them tried to give an initial impression or said outright that they were old fashioned and conservative.

2. Many of those moving in from elsewhere are from the northeastern states.

I suspect, from what we read about politics and other matters, that the same has happened in at least most of the rest of our country.


24 posted on 03/11/2013 6:44:07 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: oxcart

Baraq won Colo by 5.5 points.

I can’t ever see it going red again.


25 posted on 03/11/2013 6:45:12 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: familyop

It’s an infection. A cancer. A pox on America.


26 posted on 03/11/2013 6:51:03 PM PDT by jim-x (9/11/2001 - Never forget, Never forgive.)
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To: oxcart; All

Deny, Defy, Do not Comply!


27 posted on 03/11/2013 6:57:20 PM PDT by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: oxcart

Which of these laws would have prevented Holmes from boobie-trapping his apartment with explosives?


28 posted on 03/11/2013 7:01:32 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: coloradan

My 1911s have 7 round mags, Sigs and HKs have 13-19 round mags. Regardless of what I’m carrying, I always carry a spare mag. Mags are the weakest pistol component, especially in a 1911 platform.


29 posted on 03/11/2013 7:07:15 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: oxcart

The representatives of the Democratic [sic] party have expressed their hatred. I wonder how much hatred will be expressed right back at them, and what form, if any, it will take.


30 posted on 03/11/2013 7:18:19 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: x1stcav

If governor Hickenlooper signs these - and there’s no reason to believe he won’t - I for one will not comply, period. First, I won’t be selling any of my firearms. If I decide to give one or more to my children or my wife, the CO government and the ‘rats in power can go pound sand. If I want/need more magazines, I will get them. My local Sheriff has already stated he will not enforce any laws that infringe on our 2A rights.


31 posted on 03/11/2013 7:18:27 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: nascarnation

CO is now a blue state but not just blue but radcial socialist IMHO, lets face it the state has gone to the loon left like MA, WA, CA, and sadly the natives were infested and invaded by the CA loons looking to escape CA, if that actually makes sense to them


32 posted on 03/11/2013 7:22:53 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Texas Fossil
t a crock. I traveled much of Colorado for many years. I know the natives, especially away from the cities. They have been overun by many from CA since then, but I suspect the Commie Dems will pay a dear price at the next elections. There are a lot of hunters and shooters in CO.

A couple of years ago I would have agreed with your assessment that they will pay dearly in the next election - TODAY I CANNOT AGREE. I never thought the clownish buffoon in the White Hut could possibly be elected a second time what with all the misery he has spread across this great nation for four years, and yet look how he stole it. He campaigned as though the GOP were still in control, taking credit only for KILLING OSAMA, and all the negatives were blamed on Congress or his inheritance from GWB.

I live in AZ and the Mexifornians are turning my state purple also. They destroy the state they live in by embracing all things liberal and socialist, then flee to a nice conservative state like CO or AZ and proceed to instill their libtard ideology again. The rural parts of these states can never overwhelm the urban "takers" that have learned to live off the fat of the "workers".

When I watch the GOP House on a daily basis, I have vowed I will never vote for another national candidate in my lifetime. It is a waste of time - the "takers" are going to vote in Santa Claus every election, and eventually the bond markets will collapse and it will be over. Actually I didn't think Bernack and Clown could print this much money out of thin air and not have triggered the crash by now. It goes to show how the markets are manipulated and are total irrational and uncoupled from the economy.
33 posted on 03/11/2013 7:23:18 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: oxcart

I am appalled at what has become of my once fiercely independent western state. Hopefully this will awaken conservatives that have been staying home and we can work on repeal after the next election. There is always a court challenge meanwhile, but I’m not hopeful the courts will inject reason and constitutionality into the process.


34 posted on 03/11/2013 7:27:06 PM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: x1stcav


35 posted on 03/11/2013 7:29:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: snoringbear

Not only California but large amounts of illegal aliens. One of my kids actually was not hired at a local McDonald’s because he was not bilingual.


36 posted on 03/11/2013 7:29:26 PM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: Texas Fossil
The leftists from California are children of refugees from the Northeast.
37 posted on 03/11/2013 7:33:05 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: oxcart

And Magpul leaves for greener pastures...


38 posted on 03/11/2013 7:35:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: oxcart

Call and write these representatives today and tell them you want them to vote NO on HB 1224:

Rep. Pete Lee –HD18- (303) 866-2932

Rep. Mike McLachlan –HD59- (303) 866-2914

Rep. Diane Mitsch Bush –HD26- (303) 866-2923

Rep. Dominick Moreno –HD32- (303) 866-2964

Rep. Brittany Pettersen –HD28- (303) 866-2939

Rep. Max Tyler –HD23- (303) 866-2918

Rep. Joe Salazar –HD31- (303) 866-2951


39 posted on 03/11/2013 7:37:24 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: From The Deer Stand

The most notorious massacres in
Colorado history were perpetrated by Democrats, if memory serves and really point out the need for citizens to be fully armed. Those massacres were the Sand Creek Massacre brought by Col. John Chivington (sp) and the Ludlo Massacre brought by the Colorado State Militia.

I was born in Colorado and my parents and son are burried there. I am considering moving them.


40 posted on 03/11/2013 8:09:53 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: coloradan

Exactly.


41 posted on 03/11/2013 8:14:15 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Cheerio
Yep, irrational.

Cities are so out of touch with reality they eventually die.

The “little people” who live in the stick and face the uncertainty of life and the reality of the physical things in this world see much more clearly than the residents of the great cities.

When push comes to shove, we can exist independently. It has been so for many generations. Yes the skills have become dulled with disuse. But we can provide for our families.

I am not a prepper, but I have always had a garden, blackberries & strawberries, fruit trees and we can hunt. We still have wild game. Hogs, deer, turkey, dove and fish.

I decided in January that I would stock up on some reloading stuff for the guns we already have. Have got most of that in place in spite of the shortages. Probably will expand on some of the calibers we reload.

Do I expect chaos in the streets? Nope. Some of the families here have been friends for 150 years. My family and one other have that kind of relationship. Here in this county since 1889, but in another before that.

Some things don't change.

This is still Texas where I live.

42 posted on 03/11/2013 8:29:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: oxcart

Sheriff Makita of El Paso County has said, with support of just about every official in the area, that he will not enforce any law that encroaches on the 2nd Amendment.

Gun lovers in Colorado, it’s time to relocate south to your haven.

Game on.


43 posted on 03/11/2013 8:53:43 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Lancey Howard

What are these images from? Excuse me, but I haven’t watched TV in over 12 years and haven’t gone to a movie in about as long.

They look compelling and enticing, though.


44 posted on 03/11/2013 9:06:49 PM PDT by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: x1stcav

Those images are from a show that wrapped up its run a few weeks ago. It was one of the very few TV efforts I loyally followed, and I enjoyed it immensely. The show was called ‘Fringe’, and it was essentially a reworking of ‘X-Files’.


45 posted on 03/11/2013 9:19:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: manc

“lets face it the state has gone to the loon left like MA, WA, CA, and sadly the natives were infested and invaded by the CA loons looking to escape CA, if that actually makes sense to them”

AZ is similarly threatened. They come to AZ and complain about the radicals taking over CA. Within 2 years are chsnging AZ into the same hell hole they left.


46 posted on 03/11/2013 9:47:45 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (It only takes one to start hostilities. It takes two to agree to end them.)
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To: oxcart
"Some cited the 1999 Columbine High School shootings outside Denver."

Cite all they want. The fact remains that there are 10's a millions of guns and billions of ammo that would take decades to go away.

If ALL guns were made illegal tomorrow and some how magically confiscated and disappeared, the bad guys would still have access to their choice of guns. There would be an underground market, much like drugs. It would either be an American underground market (think drugs), or clandestine imports.

The answer to mass killings - arm everyone. There is one thing that bullies and crazies understand - a .357 or 12 guage in their face.

It's way past time to show the idiot gun-grabbers how many times innocent civilians defend themselves with their legal weapons. I read it every day on this very forum - I mean EVERY day.

The MSM pundits and even the conservatives never discuss those statistics that are even supported by the FBI. The NRA and GOA have all the stats anyone needs, but they are never used in the debate. I don't get it. Self-defense stories should be the lead...

47 posted on 03/12/2013 1:07:34 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: manc

“We need a wall alright, it;s on the Potomac and the border of CA”

Instead of a wall why don’t you tell your relative in San Fransisco it’s ok to come home now and he can bring his husband too....all is forgiven!

BTW I come from a pioneering Colorado family whose youngest daughter moved to California before the turn of the 19th century......up until ~15 years ago the family ranch/town had its own zip code......

All you California haters remember that California was once a reliably Republican/Conservative state until the emigration from parts east, south, north, and mid west to California in the 60s & 70s...these people were not all Dems/liberals, but they brought their go along ta get along rino republicans friends with them and thereby ruined this state politically and soon economically....you can help turn this around by taking all of your crackpot friends and relatives back home!

Might I also remind you that this forum is brought to you courtesy of a Conservative Californian in Fresno,Ca?


48 posted on 03/12/2013 1:33:00 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Except the rural people are out numbered now.

Take head, Texas Fossil. This can happen to you if you keep importing New Yorkers and Cali fleeing people.

49 posted on 03/12/2013 4:17:01 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
If governor Hickenlooper signs these - and there’s no reason to believe he won’t - I for one will not comply, period.

IMO, the problem is not keeping or acquiring (for now) more banned items, the problem is using them. A thug breaks in, you drop him with a pistol that has a hi-cap magazine or one of the eeeevil black guns and you are an instant felon for possession of banned firearms.

50 posted on 03/12/2013 4:34:11 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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