Posted on 03/10/2013 8:19:44 AM PDT by BroJoeK
Oh goodie... we haven’t had a good ole’ North vs South fight.. uh, discussion for a while now. Making a fresh pot of coffee!
I think the bigger hit came in the progressive era of the 1910’s when senator selection was modified (yes by amendment but it lessened state power) and the tax amendment which reached into the states to the individual as well (I think prior the feds had to rely on the states largesse more). The final straw came with the interstate commerce case in the 1930s when the supremes overstepped in order to placate FDR.
Pennsylvania?
OK
It is silly to refight a bloody war when we are facing the biggest threat to the survival of the nation. Obozo and his band of Marxists are that threat.
One of my ancestors was born in TX during the Republic. Others came to Texas because they were burned out of AL during Reconstruction for resisting abuse of Federal occupation. They voted with their feet and went GTT (Gone to Texas).
Sam Houston refused to take Texas out of the Union during the Civil War and was reidiculed for doing so.
But if you think that blink obediance to the current Rogue Federal Government is the solution, YOU ARE WRONG.
Do you own guns? We do. And they have a purpose higher than for hunting.
Instead of being obsessed with their past, those of African roots should be pouring their time and money into spreading the Gospel in Africa.
That is the ironic truth. Many African-Americans are shunning Northern urban areas and there has been a well documented “reverse migration” return to the South. Also wasn’t too long ago that Northern blacks referred to the South as “back home.” Politically correct tales serve agendas, but rarely correlate with reality.
Yes, that would be excellent.
Placement and cost of the national capitol. The national debt and its ‘fair share’. Among other things. Politics didn’t just start today.
Yankee defenders here used to be so much smarter. I’ve tangled with the best ones and this post is amateur.
I’ve long heard from people who have lived around the U.S. that blacks are treated much better in the South than in the North and other “non-South” states. Hmmmmm...
In this “list”, I don’t see where the UNFAIR TARIFFS or the opening of the flood gates to immigrants in the 1830’s were mentioned.
Oh, they were DISCONNECTED from the issue, right?
I think not. Northern industries found out that immigrants were cheaper than slaves, so they opened up the flood gates and let bunches in. You could pay them pennies a day and let THEM feed themselves, cloth themselves, house themselves, etc.etc.
But only after they loaded your “16 Tons.”
Moronic on its face. How does the Union "do nothing to stop independence" and yet still lay claim to military forts in South Carolina, and defend them with soldiers, months after South Carolina declared independence? This alone shows the list to be farcical at best.
That is funny as hell. Well Played!
I guess for the sake of discussion, maybe it would be better to point out precisely where the OP is wrong. What did he say that is a blatant falsehood?
We are all slaves of the federal apparatus now
Honest Apes legacy is all around us
Cant wait to see it come crashing down
The 2nd American Republic will not allow universal suffrage and exclude territories occupied by marxists and large cities comprised of parasites
Well, let’s not get wrapped up in a blanket of Yankee self-righteousness. We should remember that slavery existed in the North as well as in the South, and that there was still a small number of slaves in New Jersey as late as 1860.
You have to wonder why Yankees hold the South in such comtempt, yet continue to flood down here like locusts, bringing their destructive liberal ways with them and stripping the stores and delis of pastrami.
Oh, well. Southerners will do what we always do when confronted with Yankees who think they know it all. We’ll laugh at you and make fun of you behind your backs.
I agree
when the civil war(war between the states, war of northern aggression,etc) was going on, my forebears were either bending spaghetti or boiling potatoes...so I had no horse in that race.
suffice it to say(very simply) ....Slavery Bad....States Rights Good.
I vacillate between whether or not the 1861-1865 debacle was necessary or not. But I know one thing. the current regime is a threat to the Constitution and America.... and it most be blocked or stopped or overcome in whatever way necessary. those who can not see that at this time are either blind, stupid, or brainwashed.
hopefully we can do this by blocking the POS in the whitehouse at every turn, and not resort to a less peaceful method.
Indeed. A good CW debate is a delightful way to start any lazy Sunday.
Yours is the simplest and best reply of all.
Deo Vindice!
I don’t agree with the conclusions of the author in 5,6 or 7. I believe the others are correct for the most part.
Written by a yankee liberal. Full of more poop than a christmas goose.
Since yankee liberals HATE the South so much, then why not just go ahead a not oppose secession?
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