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Ten Neo-Confederate Myths
March 9, 2013 | vanity

Posted on 03/10/2013 8:19:44 AM PDT by BroJoeK

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To: Flag_This

Hood’s wounds at Gettysburg, and loss of a leg at Chickamauga—really have to say he must have been driven- and reason/military logic escaped him. Terrible at Franklin, esp the loss of Patrick Cleburne.

Exciting to learn of a cache of Hood’s papers/letters has been found, giving balance:

http://www.civilwarnews.com/archive/articles/2012/nov/hood-111201.htm


101 posted on 03/10/2013 10:43:00 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: BroJoeK
Yankees fold their pizza.

Your argument is invalid.

102 posted on 03/10/2013 10:43:18 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: IronJack
IronJack: "Even if all of this is true — and for the most part, it’s just revisionist bunk..."

Sorry, FRiend, but the "revisionists" are all those who taught you whatever it is you think you know about the Civil War.

103 posted on 03/10/2013 10:43:19 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
Why stir the pot?

Both sides were Americans and that is all that matters.

Hell, our most famous General’s family fought for the South - i.e. the Pattons of Virginia. The irony is that the South (generally speaking) has become the last bastion of freedom against the encroaching and sinister effects of socialism seeping in from the rest of the country. Folks in the midwest and Intermountain West need to stand with the Southerners on this before the left and east coast pukes have us all in serivtude. Posts likes this only serve to divide otherwise conservatively similar people on FR. Of course I do not mean this as a slight on FR's founder, who hails from California.

104 posted on 03/10/2013 10:43:24 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: jmacusa

You’re very observant.


105 posted on 03/10/2013 10:43:56 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Ecliptic
Fine. Do it in Africa, the continent there could use it.
106 posted on 03/10/2013 10:44:00 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: VanDeKoik

He also didn’t have a single vote south of the Mason-Dixon. He was president in the North, and only just barely that, winning Illinois with 53 percent, Iowa, with 54, Indiana with 51, Ohio with 51, New York with 53, etc.

He remains the only president elected with only 30 percent of the total vote, since South carolina was excluded from the election.


107 posted on 03/10/2013 10:44:28 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: momtothree

Make it decafe ‘’mom’’,folks are already rilled up!


108 posted on 03/10/2013 10:45:40 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: humblegunner

I’m more than that pal but I try always to be a gentleman which refrains me from telling you what you can do with that treasonous rag.


109 posted on 03/10/2013 10:49:11 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: BroJoeK

Bless your heart.


110 posted on 03/10/2013 10:49:24 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: 0.E.O

He also didn’t earn a single vote south of the Mason Dixon. He may have been president of the North, but not of the South.


111 posted on 03/10/2013 10:56:10 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: rockrr

What the American Navy did to the Japanese Imperial Navy at Midway in 1942 is war as an art form. The South in the Civil War conducted itself as little more than an illiterate mob with guns.


112 posted on 03/10/2013 10:56:59 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: miliantnutcase
Very well said.

From a page called "Defending the Heritage" on FB:

 photo 577772_433709993377127_1232941977_n_zps15792c3c.jpg

DÉJÀ VU…?

TYRANNY…When someone in the Executive Branch says they can kill you without due process……….I’d be a little concerned when they begin comparing the current resident of the White House with the 16th who...

... disarmed the Border States, suspended habeas Corpus, declared Martial Law, engaged the military without Congressional approval, threatened the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, imprisoned almost an entire state legislature, deported his most vocal opponent in Congress, shut down hundreds of newspapers and jailed the editors, made total war on civilians, sat by while his minions set fire to and looted whole towns, freed slaves only where he couldn’t reach them and held them in bondage where he could have set them free, stationed armed guards at polling places to intimidate voters, recruited foreign immigrants to use as cannon fodder, promoted his generals after they executed innocent citizens, started a war to collect taxes on demand of his political and corporate cronies.

The latest research places the number of dead soldiers from his war at 750,000, add to that tens of thousands of Southern civilians and millions maimed or disfigured for life.

His law partner states that, he “coveted honor and was eager for power. He was impatient of any interference that delayed or obstructed his progress."

Sound familiar, about the only thing he didn’t do regularly was play golf and shoot hoops…

~Robert~

Photo: Two fast talking lanky lawyers from Illinois…

113 posted on 03/10/2013 10:57:05 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Triple
Triple, referring to Virginia's Ratification Statement: "So is it your position that under *some* circumstances Virginia has the right to unilaterally secede?"

My mentor on this subject is James Madison, whose words I quoted immediately after the Virginia ratification.
In Madison's formulation, "mutual consent" to disunion is the moral equivalent of "oppression" or "usurpations" which are a "violation of the compact as absolves them from its obligations."

But there were no -- zero, zip, nada, none -- "usurpations" "oppression" or "injuries" in November 1860, just days after Lincoln's election and four months before his inauguration, when South Carolina slave-holders first began organizing to declare their secession.

That made their declarations neither "mutual consent" nor from "violations of the compact" of which Madison approved, but rather disunion "at pleasure" of which he did not.

114 posted on 03/10/2013 10:57:32 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

I think your view that the war was only about slavery is as incorrect as the war had nothing to do with slavery. Virginia voted against secession in April 1861 and did not seceded until Lincoln called up troops for an invasion of the South.

My great-grandfather (4 of my great-grandfathers served in the Confederate army) served as a private in the 10th Virginia and was not a slave-owner, 95% of the population of Virginia were not slave-owners. Yet after the war he apparently raised two black teenagers for they are listed as part of his household in the 1870 census.

Union troops invoked total war against the citizens of Virginia— they burned farms, killed livestock, and destroyed mills. Sheridan’s destruction of the Shenandoah Valley and “The Burning” conducted in Fauquier, Prince William, Loudoun, etc. are well documented.


115 posted on 03/10/2013 10:59:18 AM PDT by wfu_deacons
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To: 0.E.O
"Want to know a secret? Those of us who live in states which didn't vote for Obama do the same thing towards all y'all who live in states that did."

Oh, I feel the same toward my fellow Virginians who voted for Obama, believe me. "All y'all", though, doesn't apply to my county and the surrounding ones, which stayed reliably red. This is redneck country, and we're proud of it.

Besides, making fun of conservatives because they live in blue states doesn't make much sense, does it?

116 posted on 03/10/2013 11:03:18 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: ohioman

“Both sides were Americans and that is all that matters.”

Precisely!

General Ely S. Parker, a member of the Seneca tribe,
drew up the articles of surrender
which General Robert E. Lee
signed at Appomattox Court House on April 9, 1865.
Gen. Parker, who served as Gen. Ulysses S. Grant’s
military secretary was an educated attorney who was once
rejected for Union military service because of his race.
At the meeting, Gen. Lee was at first taken aback
at the presence of an Indian being in such a position.
After he got to know Parker,
Lee is said to have remarked to him,
“I am glad to see one real American here.”
Parker replied, “We are all Americans.”

From Chapter 13, Jesus Wept, An American Story
http://jesusweptanamericanstory.blogspot.com/


117 posted on 03/10/2013 11:05:14 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: jmacusa
"And how exactly were the slaves freed y’all?"

Dude. Think.

"Y'all" is a contraction of "you all." When you use it in the singular sense, as Yankees sometimes do when they think they're being hilarious, it looks, well...dumb.

118 posted on 03/10/2013 11:10:41 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Exactly - just like “All y’all”


119 posted on 03/10/2013 11:14:54 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: antisocial

I didn’t realize it was a requirement.


120 posted on 03/10/2013 11:15:23 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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