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To: BfloGuy

Sigh. Cruz is not eligible because he was not born on US soil. The Canal Zone is US soil, which is why McCain is eligible and Cruz is not.


38 posted on 03/08/2013 5:19:55 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Sigh. Cruz is not eligible because he was not born on US soil.

Yikes. I looked it up. I'm pretty "up" on current events but did not know that. Guess I pin my hopes on Rand at this point.

There's [unfortunately] a long time before the next election, though.

43 posted on 03/08/2013 5:38:59 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Sigh. Cruz is not eligible because he was not born on US soil. The Canal Zone is US soil, which is why McCain is eligible and Cruz is not.



60 posted on 03/08/2013 7:22:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: JCBreckenridge; mylife

JCB...if you will allow me to offer this alternative view, that Natural Born Citizen means having been a citizen at birth, as opposed to having later acquired citizenship through the immigration and naturalization process. If this is correct, that would mean that being born on a certain soil is not the key factor, Which would mean that the parental status would rule, not the soil of birth.

In terms of his parents’ citizenship status...I read that his mother was unquestionably an American at her birth, and that his Cuban father had become a citizen by the immigration and naturalization process by the time Cruz was born.

I have read those here who insist that both parents have to be citizens in order to confer citizenhip on the child. I don’t know the truth of this, but that was at issue with some in regard to Obama’s eligibility.

Others I’ve read say that only the birth Mother has to be a citizen in order to confer natural-born citizenship on the child, if she is at least 18 yrs of age.

In any event, I encourage everyone to withhold judgement on this until we know absolutely. Also to keep in mind that legal expert Mr. Cruz himself has replied, when asked, that he believes he is eligible.

(In terms of being born on a certain soil...we know about anchor babies. A woman who is not a citizen, comes to America and gives birth and the child is considered a citizen by being born on this soil. I have seen this disputed...not everyone agrees that these should be considered citizens, but regardless, a child in this situation is NOT a natural born citizen eligible to run for President. The parental status would rule against that, even if you accept the anchor baby concept.)


63 posted on 03/08/2013 9:24:28 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: JCBreckenridge
The Canal Zone is US soil

Yes, but I believe the hopsital in Colon Panama is not. That leaves the fact that we all now know....

McCain was a Colon birth.

86 posted on 03/09/2013 8:13:11 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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