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Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima”: The Most Reproduced and Parodied Photo in History?
U.S. Naval Institute ^ | 2/23/13 | U.S. Naval Institute

Posted on 02/23/2013 2:41:30 PM PST by Saint X

Photographer Joe Rosenthal admitted that when he took a shot of five Marines and one Navy corpsman raising the U.S. flag on Iwo Jima’s Mt. Suribachi on 23 February 1945, he had no idea that he had captured something extraordinary. He was setting up for a different shot when he spotted the group of men planting the flag and quickly took a snap without even looking through the viewfinder. The chance photo would become iconic overnight and go on to win the Pulitzer Prize.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: flag; iwojima; marines
This is great collection of tributes to the original photo.
1 posted on 02/23/2013 2:41:38 PM PST by Saint X
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2 posted on 02/23/2013 2:50:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Saint X

Pretty sure it was 68 years ago. Way to go Naval Institute.


3 posted on 02/23/2013 2:55:54 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: Saint X
I have this album......as part of my Funkadelic/Parliament collection of LPs.
4 posted on 02/23/2013 3:00:56 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Saint X

I took a half page 50th anniversary picture of the flag raising from the cover of the Chronicle and sent it to Rosenthal’s SF address in the phone book, and darned if I didn’t get it back a couple of months later autographed.


5 posted on 02/23/2013 3:02:43 PM PST by skeeter
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To: mortal19440

The article doesn’t actually say it was 67 years ago...


6 posted on 02/23/2013 3:04:53 PM PST by stormer
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To: Saint X


Original Flag Raising

7 posted on 02/23/2013 3:30:43 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Saint X
The Most Reproduced and Parodied Photo in History?

If restricted to the photo category, it's certainly up there... the V-day sailor-nurse kiss in Times Square also comes to mind.

If the genre is expanded to all American Icons, I'd think the Statue of Liberty takes the cake.

8 posted on 02/23/2013 3:43:23 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Saint X
My dad was “drinking buddies” with Ira Hayes in the early 1950s in Arizona. Both were hard drinkers. Pop told me:” The poor slob got liquored up and passed out in a ditch and froze to death.”
9 posted on 02/23/2013 3:57:14 PM PST by 4yearlurker (I hate February.)
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To: BenLurkin

Wow. We must be in the same age group. I haven’t heard anyone mention Funkadelic/Parliament in years. Those guys were terrific back in the day. My favourite was “I Just Want To Testify”. Thanks for jogging my memory.


10 posted on 02/23/2013 4:05:11 PM PST by Dartman (Mubarak and Gaddafi are going to look like choirboys when this is over)
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To: C210N

“Dewey Defeats Truman” would be in the top ten, too.

Let’s see.. (not all of these are parodied, but are at least famous):

Astronaut on the moon saluting the flag would be up there.

There’s that Vietnamese guy shooting a prisoner with a pistol.

Little naked Vietnamese girl (napalm attack victim)

The soldier in the Spanish Civil War that looks like he just got shot in the back

Marilyn Monroe over the wind grate


11 posted on 02/23/2013 4:13:56 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: C210N

... oh — and:

The Depression-era mother clutching her kids


12 posted on 02/23/2013 4:14:56 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: Saint X
Bit of flag raising trivia ... one of the Marines in the second raising was Sgt Michael Strank.
His birthday - 10 November - same as the Marine Corps birthday.

Semper Fi ...
13 posted on 02/23/2013 4:20:21 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Saint X

Marilyn Monroe standing over the sidewalk grille in New York might be a contender for most-viewed.


14 posted on 02/23/2013 4:26:08 PM PST by lurk
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To: Saint X
I choke up a little every time I read, hear or say......

"Uncommon valor was a common virtue."

Semper fi.

15 posted on 02/23/2013 4:29:04 PM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: Saint X

In the 9th grade (YEARS AGO!), The Chorus did a living tableau of this at the end of our Concert.


16 posted on 02/23/2013 4:30:19 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: Chad N. Freud; Dartman

“”Wow. We must be in the same age group. I haven’t heard anyone mention Funkadelic/Parliament in years.”

By that logic, the OP of the thread must be 90 years old because he posted about Iwo Jima.

“Dewey Defeats Truman would be in the top ten, too.

Let’s see.. (not all of these are parodied, but are at least famous):

Astronaut on the moon saluting the flag would be up there.

There’s that Vietnamese guy shooting a prisoner with a pistol.

Little naked Vietnamese girl (napalm attack victim)

The soldier in the Spanish Civil War that looks like he just got shot in the back

Marilyn Monroe over the wind grate”

Firefighters raising the flag over the WTC rubble, last helicopter out of Saigon, Berlin Wall being demolished. Those are all good ones too.


17 posted on 02/23/2013 4:37:38 PM PST by Strk321
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To: Chad N. Freud

she set up her pictures. studied it in art class. still a good photo.


18 posted on 02/23/2013 4:55:00 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Saint X

I wonder if he was using a speed graphic? With those dudes, you really didn’t need to use the viewfinder.


19 posted on 02/23/2013 5:07:47 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Saint X

He was setting up for a different shot when he spotted the group of men planting the flag and quickly took a snap without even looking through the viewfinder. The chance photo would become iconic overnight and go on to win the Pulitzer Prize.


There were two flag raisings...the original and one staged.

The one almost everyone sees is the staged one and the original was never really shown to the public.

It’s a shame that the public has been conned into believing that the popular picture was real. Even the statuary is false!


20 posted on 02/23/2013 6:00:57 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Saint X

My father-in-law George Hopkins, R.I.P. two years ago, saw the flag raised with his own eyes. A 19 year old radioman, he landed with the 5th Marine Divisino on D-day and went the distance without being wounded in action. He was damn lucky.


21 posted on 02/23/2013 6:15:00 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DH

The 2nd large flag being raised was by no means “faked.” The first was too small to be seen from any distance, and the 2nd went up soon after. It was not some sort of PR stunt with actors. Most of the flag raisers did not survive the war. If you think that qualifies as “fake,” you need to do a little reading on the actual history.


22 posted on 02/23/2013 6:44:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Saint X

I had to look into this picture because I thought of the character from David Copperfield and I had never heard of the band before.

23 posted on 02/23/2013 6:51:25 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Saint X
Today, the Meatball flies over Iwō-Jima, as it has done since 1968, when the US returned it to Japan.
24 posted on 02/23/2013 7:50:54 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Sawdring

They were a ‘70s band. Did fairly well and then just faded out of sight.


25 posted on 02/23/2013 8:19:13 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you...three of the flag raisers (Sgt Mike Strank, Harlan Block and Franklin Sousley) died on the island; Strank and Block died the same day, and Sousley was killed by a sniper in the final phase of the battle.

The “staged” controversy came because of an off-hand comment by Joe Rosenthal. After shooting the second flag-raising, he took a shot of some Marines celebrating around the newly-raised flag. That was clearly a posed shot. So, when another photographer asked him if the “posed” the shot, Rosenthal replied yes, thinking his colleague was referring to the staged “gung-ho” shot and not the flag raising. Time Magazine ran with that comment and tried to claim that the famous flag raising shot was staged. It was not, and the motion picture footage of the flag going up (shot by Marine Corps combat photographer Sgt William Genaust) proves the flag raising was not staged. Genaust, BTW, was another Marine who died on Iwo and his body was never recovered.


26 posted on 02/23/2013 8:53:41 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Travis McGee

I am very aware of the history.

I bet that you have no idea of the fact that those men in the second picture were not the men who initially raised the first flag.

You need to do some serious research on this matter. Try to do some independent research on this however and don’t ask me to “spoon feed” you the information.

It was only a few years back that I learned the truth and was outraged by it.


27 posted on 02/24/2013 4:11:27 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Saint X

I had the pleasure of a 20 year friendship with one of the heroes who was present on that day. Russell Gallaspie of Ocean Springs, MS - Rest in Peace my old friend - you were, and continue to be, an inspiration.


28 posted on 02/24/2013 5:22:48 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: DH
There were two flag raisings...the original and one staged.
You are absolutely, one hundred percent, full of krap. You have no clue WTF you're talking about.
I defy you to show us proof.
29 posted on 02/24/2013 6:01:00 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Here, since you did not have either the inclination or expertise to conduct a web search before making your comment, is the point you can conduct your expert search:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&p=Iwo+jima+%2B+2nd+flag

If you can’t understand it after you read and research it, there is nothing more I can do for you.


30 posted on 02/24/2013 6:38:02 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: oh8eleven

Here, since you did not have either the inclination or expertise to conduct a web search before making your comment, is the point you can conduct your expert search:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&p=Iwo+jima+%2B+2nd+flag

If you can’t understand it after you read and research it, there is nothing more I can do for you.


31 posted on 02/24/2013 6:38:23 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH
Your (twice posted) link - "Iwo jima + 2nd flag" - has nothing to do with what you so ignorantly claimed.
I don't have to look up a thing, I know my MC history. Either you back up your assertion or STFU. Idiot.
32 posted on 02/24/2013 6:49:01 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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33 posted on 02/24/2013 8:38:55 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Saint X

General Holland M. Smith and Navy Secretary James Forrestal were wading ashore on Iwo Jima when the flag went. Forrestal told Smith: “The raising of that flag on Suribachi means a Marine Corps for the next 500 years.”


34 posted on 02/24/2013 1:16:33 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: oh8eleven

It’s simply impossible to show actual history to someone with a closed mind.

I’ve given references to links to prove the story....now, how about you giving me your references to prove the 2nd picture was the real thing. When you do, I will apologize, crawl into a hole and sing the praises of Obama.


35 posted on 02/24/2013 2:07:54 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: onyx
That picture is old ... caption says the museum "opens in November." Actually, the museum has been open for years.
I was there in 2008 and saw that flag. Great place to visit, even if you're not a Marine.
36 posted on 02/25/2013 5:04:24 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Dartman

I saw Parliament and the Brides of Funkestein back in the 70’s. I liked “Flashlight”. It was a bit odd being one of only a handful of white boys, but all ended well. I will say there were more blunts there than at a Cheech and Chong movie festival. I also liked the Bar-Kays, Bootsie, and Confuncion (they had some awesome slow dance songs).

Shortly thereafter black music ceased being music and I stopped listening.


37 posted on 02/25/2013 8:26:51 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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That picture is old ... caption says the museum "opens in November." Actually, the museum has been open for years.
I was there in 2008 and saw that flag. Great place to visit, even if you're not a Marine.

The dedication ceremony for the National Museum of the Marine Corps was Friday, November 10 (MC birthday) 2006. I was a proud attendee, the Museum itself wasn't open to guests until the following day Saturday.
This museum has broken all kinds of visitor records, I believe it exceeded one million visitors in under two years. The location Quantico, VA (immediately off I-95) just 25 miles south of DC helps.

38 posted on 02/25/2013 8:49:16 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Saint X
More than Lootie?  photo looties_big_band.jpg
39 posted on 02/25/2013 4:55:31 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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