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Police in Christopher Dorner standoff launched incendiary tear gas into cabin
NY Post ^ | Feb 14, 2013 | CHUCK BENNETT and DAVID K. LI

Posted on 02/14/2013 6:21:43 AM PST by KeyLargo

Edited on 02/14/2013 9:25:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Police in Christopher Dorner standoff launched incendiary tear gas into cabin

By CHUCK BENNETT and DAVID K. LI From Post Wires Last Updated: 6:14 AM, February 14, 2013

Murderous ex-cop Christopher Jordan Dorner wanted to go out in a blaze of glory — and the sheriff’s deputies who surrounded his California mountain hideout provided the flames.

The San Bernardino County cops torched the wooden cabin with highly flammable “incendiary tear gas” as Dorner took refuge Tuesday, apparently burning him to a crisp.

“Burn this mf--er!” one officer shouted as they had Dorner — who had earlier killed a deputy and seriously wounded another — pinned down in the cabin, according to police radio transmissions.

Amid sounds of gunfire, voices can be head shouting, “Burn it down!” and “Shoot the gas!”

Excerpt, read more at nypost


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; christopherdorner; dorner; fff; govtabuse; massmurderer; teaparty; tyranny
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1 posted on 02/14/2013 6:21:52 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

What were they supposed to do, send in cookies and wait him out until he shot a few dozen more cops?


2 posted on 02/14/2013 6:23:41 AM PST by mnehring
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To: KeyLargo

SOP.


3 posted on 02/14/2013 6:23:41 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mnehring

They could have knocked on the door and asked to speak to him.


4 posted on 02/14/2013 6:25:23 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: mnehring

Give the officer that saidthat a medal...: )


5 posted on 02/14/2013 6:25:45 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: AppyPappy

lol... yea, that would work.


6 posted on 02/14/2013 6:26:12 AM PST by mnehring
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To: KeyLargo

Cue teh ‘Poooooor Dorner’ cries.

Deadly force is authorized against someone using deadly force.
Nerf bats and wiffle balls don’t convince badguys to surrender.
And Dorner said he wasn’t going to surrender OR be taken in alive.
He intended to die.


7 posted on 02/14/2013 6:26:56 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: KeyLargo
According to police, Quan was the daughter of a retired LAPD captain who represented Dorner at the Board of Rights hearing that led to his firing, and the killings were carried out in an act of revenge outlined in a lengthy manifesto Dorner posted online — blaming Quan’s father for losing his job.

Dorner is also a suspect in the shooting of a Los Angeles police officer near Interstate 15 and Magnolia Avenue in Corona early today.

The officer suffered a graze wound to the head.

About 20 minutes later, Dorner is believed to have ambushed two Riverside officers while they were stopped at a red light at Magnolia and Arlington avenues, according to Riverside police Lt. Guy Toussaint, adding that the two were on “routine patrol” and were not searching for Dorner at the time.

One of the officers — a 34-year-old, 11-year veteran of the force — was killed.

The wounded Riverside officer, who is 27 years old, underwent surgery and is expected to fully recover, Riverside police Chief Sergio Diaz said.

http://www.swrnn.com/2013/02/07/u-s-navy-discharged-christopher-dorner-last-friday/

I hope he suffered before he died.

8 posted on 02/14/2013 6:28:26 AM PST by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: mnehring

Well, i suppose its alot cheeper and just as effective as an AT-4 shot:o) I hope it was painful.


9 posted on 02/14/2013 6:29:21 AM PST by TheGunny
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To: KeyLargo

Here comes the media to gin up some liberal/racial riots.


10 posted on 02/14/2013 6:29:30 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: mnehring
Some are just determined to find a grave constitutional violation in this thing.
11 posted on 02/14/2013 6:29:51 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Darksheare

Exactly.

Question: How many of the bleeding hearts would have risked their lives to coax Dorner out peacefully?

Answer: None.


12 posted on 02/14/2013 6:31:10 AM PST by rbg81
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To: KeyLargo

The press has been trying so hard to turn this into a scandal. As if people (other than some left-wing loons) are going to be upset if the police did this. I hope they did it on purpose.


13 posted on 02/14/2013 6:31:10 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: KeyLargo

His manifesto blames early childhood racism - that he wasn’t a Christian - that he accepted death after what he claims were false allegations against him by several people of several levels within the LAPD - lists his targets - and states he will hunt down other police officers using irregular warfare with his linkages to his military career - and that in no way they are going to have it easy...how did they know that he didn’t pre-establish a stronghold in that cabin days before - they had no idea...

Doner’s actions and the reason why the LAPD terminated him goes towards support of the LAPD’s decision to let him go..despite losing his clearance — what was that about??? What circumstances did the DoD find to terminate his clearance -— it wasn’t because of the LAPD’s actions - that’s a fact!


14 posted on 02/14/2013 6:31:40 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: mnehring

Cookies have too many calories


15 posted on 02/14/2013 6:32:41 AM PST by woofie
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To: jsanders2001

“Give the officer that said that a medal...: )”

I agree.

And I do agree with the law enforcement tactics in this case.

But, I remind those gun owners that ‘bravely’ say on this and other blogs that they will just shoot anyone from the government coming to seize their weapons.

Yes, and make sure you cover yourself with bar b que sauce when it starts to get warm and toasty sir......


16 posted on 02/14/2013 6:32:51 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

17 posted on 02/14/2013 6:33:04 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Darksheare

I don’t think anyone here has any sympathy for Dorner, but he did goad them into shooting a couple of the wrong people, swarming the wrong locations, risking the lives of others, and then burning down someone else’s property. They were on the very margin of professionalism in handling this.


18 posted on 02/14/2013 6:33:34 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: KeyLargo

When they come for your guns, expect the same treatment.

Crispy, or Extra Crispy?


19 posted on 02/14/2013 6:33:48 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: skeeter
-- Some are just determined to find a grave constitutional violation in this thing. --

I think the police official police line will be to deny any attempt or effort to burn the structure. There would be no need to deny the burn out was deliberate, and intended to kill Dorner, if there was no risk of legal fallout for that mode of deadly force.

20 posted on 02/14/2013 6:35:44 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Yes there have been posters on here expressing sympathy and support for Dorner.


21 posted on 02/14/2013 6:35:44 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: KeyLargo

“Amid sounds of gunfire, voices can be head shouting, “Burn it down!” and “Shoot the gas!”

OK, and your point is?


22 posted on 02/14/2013 6:36:55 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Darksheare

To bad we haven’t learned that lesson in Iraq and Afstan.


23 posted on 02/14/2013 6:37:09 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: KeyLargo

What were they sopposed to do? Use harsh words?!


24 posted on 02/14/2013 6:38:47 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Don’t bother warning them. They won’t listen. Let them go on thinking cops are their friends and would never, ever do this to them or give them the treatment those people driving the wrong kind of car got. Let them find out the hard way.


25 posted on 02/14/2013 6:40:16 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: KeyLargo

Incendiary arrows and pots containing combustible substances were used as early as the 9th century BC.


26 posted on 02/14/2013 6:41:07 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Rappini

Tell me about it!


27 posted on 02/14/2013 6:41:16 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: rbg81

Somewhere there is a nail looking to start a lawsuit for blunt trauma to his head.

The people supporting Dorner would not have been able to coax him out peacefully, nor would they have tried.


28 posted on 02/14/2013 6:41:33 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare

Ok, but not me. I’m just trying to AAR the response a little bit. But I do hope that this drives a wedge between those in Law Enforcement and those on the left. May they never forget who Dorner was and who said what in the aftermath. Who was on their side and who wasn’t.


29 posted on 02/14/2013 6:41:57 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Orangedog; Uncle Miltie

When it was Dorner vs LAPD it was badguy on badguy violence.
I grabbed the popcorn and laughed.
If Dorner had stayed in LAPD jurisdiction he might still be alive giving them fits.


30 posted on 02/14/2013 6:43:05 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Cboldt

I think that’s the point.
We’ve seen way too many times the intentional killing of a suspect through burning, and if it wasn’t an issue, there would be no attempt to deny it.

Those of you that interpret this as “support for Dorner” are the equivalent of a leftist yelling “racist” in order not to address the issue at hand.


31 posted on 02/14/2013 6:43:28 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: KeyLargo

So if law enforcement went door-to-door to confiscate weapons, you’d just give them up?


32 posted on 02/14/2013 6:43:36 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: KeyLargo

I don’t understand the urgency. They’ve been hunting this guy for days and now he’s essentially cornered.

If they didn’t know for certain that he didn’t have an aresnal and a bunch of food, then they didn’t know for certain if he had hostages. There doesn’t seem to have been much, if any, communication, at least from the reports I’ve read.

Yet they couldn’t wait him out? Not even for one day? Even if just to save the structure and not risk a fire in a state forest?


33 posted on 02/14/2013 6:43:41 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: KeyLargo

If Obama had a son he’d look like Dorner....get ready for blowback from the grievance community.


34 posted on 02/14/2013 6:44:38 AM PST by crusader71
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To: Dr. Pritchett

I know.
You got freepmail for reading leisure.
Let me know what you think.


35 posted on 02/14/2013 6:46:19 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: KeyLargo
Glad to see that sanity has returned to FR by the light of day.

I was here late last night and the liberaltatians were out in force calling this an execution and the cops murders..

My felling is Burn baby burn...

36 posted on 02/14/2013 6:47:56 AM PST by montanajoe
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To: Orangedog

Badge = Police + Prosecutor + Judge + Jury + Executioner.

No messy Due Process.

Pretty cool!


37 posted on 02/14/2013 6:48:55 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: MrB
-- We've seen way too many times the intentional killing of a suspect through burning, and if it wasn't an issue, there would be no attempt to deny it. --

I don't think the intentional burn outs are frequent, but I will say that denying the burn out was intention has a detrimental effect on the credibility of the law enforcement community.

Oh well. Them vs. Us. That's the way they think and behave, and nothing I can do will change it.

38 posted on 02/14/2013 6:50:06 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Darksheare
Yes there have been posters on here expressing sympathy and support for Dorner.

I haven't seen that. I've seen people post concerns that the officers intentionally burned him alive, not in some firefight. The officers seemed determined to execute him. I've seen posts concerned with the rule of law, not Dornan.
39 posted on 02/14/2013 6:55:01 AM PST by Girlene
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To: V_TWIN

See post #16


40 posted on 02/14/2013 6:57:23 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Hey, guess who quit smoking today?

Answer: Christopher Dorner


41 posted on 02/14/2013 6:58:29 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Girlene

All it takes is a cursory look around.
There are supporters for the guy here.

We had someone the other night shrieking about how Dorner was being denied due process... while he was shooting at the San Bernadino Sherrifs..
Deadly force is authorized in response to deadly force.


42 posted on 02/14/2013 6:59:58 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: KeyLargo

This Obama worshiping idiot who killed four people wanted “death by cop” and his wish was granted. No one cares only some freepers.


43 posted on 02/14/2013 7:00:13 AM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: KeyLargo
And I do agree with the law enforcement tactics in this case.

But, I remind those gun owners that ‘bravely’ say on this and other blogs that they will just shoot anyone from the government coming to seize their weapons.

I don't think that most of us facing such a situation do not expect to live through it. I know I don't.

Your adherence to your citizenry rights and personal bravery may differ.

44 posted on 02/14/2013 7:00:42 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Oops, remove the “don’t” after “I.”


45 posted on 02/14/2013 7:02:15 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: Uncle Miltie
There was some recorded police radio chatter indicating that one of the officers said, "Burn the M-F'er down!!!"

I am no fan of Dorner, and no fan of his Obama love. However, it seems as a FRiend indicated earlier that this was bad guys versus bad guys.

The police were, by no means, interested in taking Dorner alive. This was evident when they shot two women in a truck, and then shot some other random guy in the street. As another poster wrote, the cops had no way of knowing if there were hostages in there before they started burning the cabin. I am surprised the cops didn't bring a Mark-19 with HE rounds to the cabin.

46 posted on 02/14/2013 7:03:43 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: Darksheare

I saw posts concerned with the rule of law.


47 posted on 02/14/2013 7:04:27 AM PST by Girlene
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To: chrisser

Flamethrowers or a Hellfire missile would have been so much more certain, and totally cooler.

Drones rule!


48 posted on 02/14/2013 7:05:56 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

In this case you’re right.


49 posted on 02/14/2013 7:09:09 AM PST by onedoug
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To: rarestia
"So if law enforcement went door-to-door to confiscate weapons, you’d just give them up?"

Yes, and I would then be on my way to the 7-11 Store to pick up some supplies after I have handed the government official a copy of this document and I have made a call to my attorney.

for the bonfire that I'm sure will start at the home of some gun owner in the area that chooses to go down shooting......

50 posted on 02/14/2013 7:11:19 AM PST by KeyLargo
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