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Pa. grad student sues, says C-plus cost her $1.3M
ajc.com ^ | 2-13-13

Posted on 02/13/2013 9:33:13 PM PST by rawhide

Graduate student Megan Thode wasn't happy about the C-plus she received for one class,saying the mediocre grade kept her from getting her desired degree and becoming a licensed therapist — and, as a result,cost her $1.3 million in lost earnings.

Now Thode is suing her professor and Lehigh University in Bethlehem,claiming monetary damages and seeking a grade change.

A judge is hearing testimony in the case this week in Northampton County Court. Lehigh and the professor contend her lawsuit is without merit. Northampton County Judge Emil Giordano declined to dismiss the suit Wednesday, ruling that there was enough evidence for the suit to proceed.

Thode took the class in the fall of 2009. Her instructor,Amanda Eckhardt, testified this week that she stood by the grade,saying Thode failed to behave professionally and thus earned zero out of 25 points in class participation, bumping her down a full letter grade.

"I...believed she received the grade she earned," Eckhardt said.

The C-plus prevented Thode, an otherwise A student, from going on to the next class and advancing in her professional therapist studies.

Her attorney, Richard Orloski, argued that Eckhardt targeted Thode because she is an outspoken advocate for gay marriage.

Eckhardt testified that while she believes marriage is between a man and a woman, she would never allow her personal views to influence her treatment of students. She said Thode had outbursts in class, did not participate appropriately, was emotionally unstable and failed to heed a warning letter.

Stephen Thode, the plaintiff's father and a longtime finance professor at Lehigh, testified on his daughter's behalf and said her participation score was highly irregular.

"I have never heard of a case, not just at Lehigh, where a student achieved a zero in class participation where they attended and participated in every class," he said

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To: boop

It isn’t the GPA, it is the fact that she didn’t qualify to advance to the next level of courses. There is nothing to prevent her from retaking the course for a better grade, except her pride.


21 posted on 02/13/2013 10:53:55 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Andrei Bulba

In my first year of college I had a prof who had a reputation as a liberal if not socialist/communist. The coarse was something on modern writings and world affairs, Lippmann, Marx, Hitler etc. In the final exam there was a grade important question about what was propaganda. My written answer was that most of the assignments we were given were propaganda. I was given an ‘A’ for the course and to this day remember the prof as a very fair person.


22 posted on 02/13/2013 10:54:05 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: EDINVA

That’s what it sounded like, but you are probably right. It seems there was another article about this and I had a similar impression.


23 posted on 02/13/2013 11:17:44 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kirkwood
Great point. In fact I missed this money quote from the story:

"Thode took the class in the fall of 2009".

So instead of taking her lumps and retaking the course (for FREE!), she's wasted 3 years on this preposterous lawsuit.

She'd be long graduated by now.

24 posted on 02/13/2013 11:24:18 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: DemforBush

I was in class with a football player who had alreadly been signed by the Cowboys. He paid absolutely no attention, talked himself and generally acted retarded. Anytime another player would walk by the room the football player would yell “Bro!” The professor would give him an stern look and he’d say “That’s my football bro” and the professor would just stare then go back about his business.

At the end of the semester grades were being handed out and the professor stood in front of the ball player’s desk and said the grades range from 100 , and he looked down at the ball player and said “to 2” as he laid the sheet on his desk. The guy didn’t make it past training camp.


25 posted on 02/13/2013 11:30:50 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: Oztrich Boy

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Lezzie Boredom swore and cried during a class discussion -

What ever happened to:

“I am woman - hear me roar”?

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26 posted on 02/14/2013 12:00:21 AM PST by devolve ( -------- -- --It is not where Obama was born that is the problem - it is where he's living now--)
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To: rawhide

This is going to have a nasty effect on fair grading if it succeeds. Imagine a whole new tort industry among trial lawyers.. We’ll soon see TV ads about “grade justice.”


27 posted on 02/14/2013 2:02:30 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: rawhide

This is going to have a nasty effect on fair grading if it succeeds. Imagine a whole new tort industry among trial lawyers.. We’ll soon see TV ads about “grade justice.”


28 posted on 02/14/2013 2:03:37 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: EDINVA

Hi. I don’t believe we’ve met. :)


29 posted on 02/14/2013 2:22:41 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: rawhide
The C-plus prevented Thode, an otherwise A student, from going on to the next class and advancing in her professional therapist studies.

Given the dumbing down of academics, and grade creep, I wonder how many of the otherwise A grades were inflated? Or, were each and every one really earned?

If she knew that class participation was 25% of the grade why did she not try to please her teacher by behaving and participating in an orderly, polite manner?

If she received all A's otherwise, why would one C+ totally destroy her? If I recall a C+ was a passing grade, even for graduate school. It was not a good thing because grad students were expected to maintain a B average. Strange case. Should have been dismissed.

30 posted on 02/14/2013 2:30:04 AM PST by olezip
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To: max americana; TheDon
Leave it daddy to get his pampered daughter a way out.

"Send Lawyers, Guns and Money, Dad; Get me out of this".

31 posted on 02/14/2013 2:47:28 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: onona
I have the same sentiment.

If it's true the student had 100% attendance, then a 0 out of 25% seems extreme.

For most college students (even the smart ones), showing up for every class is a huge achievement.

OTOH, a distruptive student doesn't deserve the full 25% for participation.

32 posted on 02/14/2013 3:15:23 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Could be. My sister ran into almost exactly the same problem 15 years ago, before the internet age. She was in a graduate program for hearing disorders and speech pathology, a specialized allied health profession. The Department Chair took an immediate dislike to her, perhaps because she was from the South and has the accent. He told her at one point that she would never succeed in her chosen field because no one with a southern accent could help people with speech disorders, and moreover that her "hair was the wrong color" (whatever that meant---she's a brunette). He then proceeded to make her life miserable, and in the end, arbitrarily tanked her grades so that she could not continue her graduate education and effectively nipped her career in the bud.

She did not tell me or our dad about it until after the fact, and she did not sue the bastard or the school for sexual harassment and discrimination, but quietly got into another field and is doing quite well today. If we had known about it, my dad and me would have paid the jerk a very uncordial visit.

So there may be something to this woman's story. It rings true to me, based on our own experience with these people.

33 posted on 02/14/2013 3:19:46 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: rawhide

Yeah, I’d surely love a million bucks for every grade of c I got as a student.

Professors should be forced to give everyone straight a grades as a matter of course.

Right.


34 posted on 02/14/2013 3:35:44 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Kirkwood

If she didn’t have the persistance and dedicaton to overcome that minor obstacle, then maybe it’s best for everyone that she did not advance further in her originally chosen field.


35 posted on 02/14/2013 3:59:18 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: Andrei Bulba
Hey I know liberal professors screwed me in college just because they didn’t like me even reviewing a book that didn’t agree with their revisionist version of history. I mean a low grade because I dared review a book that said reconstruction of the South after the Civil War was a mistake.

Maybe you received a low grade, not because of the subject matter of your review (which I fail to see as being conservative or liberal), but because the review was poorly written.

36 posted on 02/14/2013 4:12:47 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: olezip

“Given the dumbing down of academics, and grade creep, I wonder how many of the otherwise A grades were inflated? Or, were each and every one really earned?”

Interesting thought. Perhaps a sleaze lawyer can invent a new industry line of suing schools as part of professional malpractice against incompetent practitioners.


37 posted on 02/14/2013 4:18:25 AM PST by Rebelbase ( .223, .224, whatever it takes....)
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To: rawhide

But she is a protected minority and SHE IS ENTITLED! /s


38 posted on 02/14/2013 4:20:09 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: rawhide

So she’s finished for life, and doesn’t expect to make a single penny at any sort of career ever, just because of a grade in a single course?

In a saner world, she would just realize that perhaps she wasn’t cut out for this particular field of endeavor, and try to make a go of it in something else. How many stories are there of people who appeared to be a failure earlier in life, who eventually found their niche and achieved happiness and success later on.

But no, in the society we have today, the path to success is to sue someone and live off the proceeds.


39 posted on 02/14/2013 4:34:25 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: max americana

40 posted on 02/14/2013 4:43:48 AM PST by joethedrummer
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