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Former Boy Scout leader indicted, accused of molesting boys
WMC TV 5 ^ | 2/11/2013 | Michael Clark

Posted on 02/12/2013 6:14:39 AM PST by Sybeck1

(WMC-TV) – A former Boy Scout leader has been indicted, accused of molesting young boys. For the first time, an alleged victim's mother has issued a warning.

MOREAdditional Links Details of William Todd Brewer's indictment were made public Monday after Brewer was served on Friday. Now we're hearing from the mother of one of the alleged victims in court documents.

When former Boy Scout leader William Todd Brewer was arrested for sexual battery last July, one mother didn't want to think about what may have gone on inside Brewer's Senatobia rental home with her then 13-year-old son.

"I would tell you mothers out there, you're protective over your girls you need to talk to your boys," she said.

To protect her son, we've agreed not to identify her or her family, but we've confirmed her child is one of the alleged victims in Brewer's case. She says she learned Brewer lived with another woman who had two children.

"My son was friends with the eldest boy and would say 'Hey Mom, I'm going to go stay with his friend,'" she said. "I knew the mom, I'd let him, had no idea that Brewer was in the house."

Now Brewer stands indicted on 23 counts of sexual abuse and child pornography. We've learned there were a total of five victims in the indictment. The sheriff says none of them were in the Boy Scouts where Brewer was an executive.

"I don't think there's anything that I would ask him, I would just like to see him rot under the prison," the mother said.

It's been a trying year for this woman's family. She says her son and another alleged victim are starting to open up and it's bringing them closer, but she hopes other parents will see her story and ask the tough questions if they think something is going on.

"Get to know who their friends are, what other people are staying in those houses where you're letting your kids stay," she said.

Brewer was fired from his position after his arrest. He remains in the Tate County jail on those charges with no bond.


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; corruption; democrats; homocorruption; homofascism; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; obama; pedophiles; pervert; scouts; sexoffenders
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Please make this viral considering the scouts upcoming meeting in May.
1 posted on 02/12/2013 6:14:47 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1

But...
Butt........We GOTTA have Queers running the Boy Scouts!!

WE JUST GOTTA!!


2 posted on 02/12/2013 6:20:13 AM PST by Flintlock (TRUTH--It's the new hate speach.)
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To: Flintlock
We GOTTA have Queers running the Boy Scouts!!

Yeah. If they let queers in the scouts, then this perv really would have gotten a scout medal.

3 posted on 02/12/2013 6:24:00 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Sybeck1

Aren’t the Scouts a PRIVATE organization? So why aren’t they telling our first foreign born twice unconstitutionally elected POTUS and his crew to F off?


4 posted on 02/12/2013 6:26:08 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The logical solution is for the Sodomites to create their own organization...The Gay Scouts. They can start out as Twinkies and work their way up to Fairy, then Pansy, up to Butterfly Scout. They can call their leaders Bears and Drag Queens.
Perhaps they can get sponsors like KY and Vaseline.


5 posted on 02/12/2013 6:36:41 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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To: laweeks

“Yeah. If they let queers in the scouts, then this perv really would have gotten a scout medal.”

I hope this link works:

http://www.inclusivescouting.net/isa/knot_patch/

Its the gay scout medal....its not official, but something gay supporters can buy and put on their uniform. The wearer is almost daring anyone else to challenge him....and look, ummm, not politically correct. And, every day the patch is worn without comment, it is a small tacit approval.

A local church openly embraces gays....I don’t know if they have a troop; but, if they do, I’m sure these patches would be on parade.


6 posted on 02/12/2013 6:48:55 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Sybeck1

This is precisely why the left want to phagg the scouts.
Once molestations become common they will force them out of business altogether


7 posted on 02/12/2013 6:51:30 AM PST by digger48
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To: RavenLooneyToon

Someday a study will be done asking homosexuals how old they were when they had their first homosexual tryst and how old was their partner. Then there will be little doubt about homosexuality. Of course such a study will never be done.


8 posted on 02/12/2013 6:51:41 AM PST by allendale
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Its not about, “physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.”

Its about money. Sad.

No more mone from me, until they decide.


9 posted on 02/12/2013 6:57:22 AM PST by super7man
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To: Sybeck1

Fathers no where around to correct these problems........permanently.


10 posted on 02/12/2013 6:58:03 AM PST by captnorb
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To: super7man

mone = money

Sorry.


11 posted on 02/12/2013 6:59:23 AM PST by super7man
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To: allendale

Nature tried it’s best to eliminate them from the Gene pool. Unfortunately, the moral code of Society is so compromised that we spent millions of dollars undoing Natures work by medically managing HIV.
If we didn’t interfere with the natural order of things, the BSA would be safe.


12 posted on 02/12/2013 7:02:30 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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To: Sybeck1
Once again, adult males who rape boys are HOMOSEXUALS.

Calling them 'pedophiles' (as the leftists in Big Media insist) is covering up the problem.

The problem is queers.

Now ... the leftists in Big Media want the Boy Scouts to let flagrant queers have positions of authority in scouting.

It's obvious that the leftists in Big Media want boys to be raped.

Maybe the leftists in Big Media are themselves queers, and want to go hunting Boy Scouts?

13 posted on 02/12/2013 7:03:34 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sybeck1
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14 posted on 02/12/2013 7:06:28 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Flintlock

I’m trying to uncover any Scoutmaster abuse case that involved a married leader as the accused. Its apparent these sick leaders are single. Its also a fact that a vast number of pedophiles are gay. The problem is that since many do NOT claim to be gay (stay in the closet) the social media claims NO PROOF. The pedophile priests, who are also NOT Married, are also homosexual but since they also would never profess it, thus makes the point of proof difficult. Solution to the problem is require ALL Scoutmaster to be married...not same sex married! (It would greatly if not almost entirely eliminate the problem)


15 posted on 02/12/2013 7:06:46 AM PST by bdegrand
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To: Sybeck1
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16 posted on 02/12/2013 7:07:55 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Sybeck1

The Boy Scout motto is “Be Prepared”. Every scout should be carrying a knife and know how and when to use it.


17 posted on 02/12/2013 7:09:38 AM PST by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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To: Sybeck1

I’ll bet 1000000 dollars that this guy was “in the closet” which means that the ban on gays did absolutely nothing to prevent it.

In fact, by having a “ban on gays” in place, the scouts quite likely lulled the parents into a false sense of security. “It’s got to be safe, there’s no gays.”

An out in the open scout leader would never and could never have perpetrated this terrible criminal violation.


18 posted on 02/12/2013 7:30:31 AM PST by babble-on
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To: bdegrand
The problem is that since many do NOT claim to be gay (stay in the closet) the social media claims NO PROOF. The pedophile priests, who are also NOT Married, are also homosexual but since they also would never profess it, thus makes the point of proof difficult. Solution to the problem is require ALL Scoutmaster to be married...not same sex married! (It would greatly if not almost entirely eliminate the problem)

Actually, the REAL problem is that there are many useful idiots that have bought into the leftist propaganda that there are 'gay' beings RATHER than simply the obvious reality -that there are disordered heterosexuals.

There is NO PROOF that there are 'gay' beings -you as much as admit it with your statement. YET you then go on to for instance suggest that only married males are 'safe'. What next will you suggest -that only monogamous homosexuals in a commuted relationship be allowed as 'gay' scout leaders?

I got a clue for you -the only difference between a homosexual and a normal heterosexual is that one CHOOSES to engage in homosexual activity -period.

EVERY boy that has been sexually assaulted by a male has been homosexually assaulted by a disordered heterosexual -NO PROOF NEEDED.

Homosexuality is all about the sex -that is it -that is all -that is the ONLY differentiator.

19 posted on 02/12/2013 7:35:52 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: bdegrand

One thing to recognize is, if the facts in the story are correct, the molestation wasn’t a direct result of his involvment in the Scouts. The point is the Scouts have strict and clear rules for leaders and Scouts.

There is to be no one on one with a Scout. Even on drives the rule is two deep leadership. That prevents this stuff from going on. In the above story the moms gave this guy unsupervised access to their sons. That’s the fundamental problem. If someone won’t follow the rules and you think that person will make a good surrogate father you’ve already made your second mistake.


20 posted on 02/12/2013 7:39:53 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: babble-on

Absurd and thoughtless.


21 posted on 02/12/2013 7:41:48 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DBeers

there is no “normal” homosexual.

that is like saying there is a normal animal sex person. normal wife swapper, normal masochist fetish.


22 posted on 02/12/2013 7:42:57 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: baddog 219

Is that Tom Cruise?


23 posted on 02/12/2013 7:47:43 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Sybeck1

Have they reviewed the troop leadership around State College, PA?


24 posted on 02/12/2013 7:48:25 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Sybeck1

Another faggot caught in the act of raping young boys. Another 1000 queers escape detection and reporting on a daily basis. At some point people have to wake up to the fact that male homosexuals are disgustingly obessessed with young boys and this vile practice is just another part of the lifestyle.


25 posted on 02/12/2013 7:52:10 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Flintlock

great isn;t it, .
ARF

This country has lose all common sense, nwo allowing cross dressers and feces pokers in the miltiary wiht other normal men, allowing turd feces pokers to be wiht boys and yet we’re suppposed to ignore that the majroity of boys are molested by men.
THAT MAKES THOSE MEN TOUCHING OTHER YOUNG MALES HOMOSEXUALS, There fore homosexuals molest boys much more and some out there think the boy scouts should let these people in,.

Frigging idiots


26 posted on 02/12/2013 8:11:59 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: allendale

notice how the media and other groups , even on our side will not put out there on a bigger scale how many boys are touched by men.

The majority of boys molested and raped are not done by women, they are done by men.
Now if a guy touches a younger male then it makes them a homosexual.

Therefore the majority of boys raped and sexually abused and molested are done by homosexuals.

The idiots which keep stating how they know a couple of feces pokers think they are just go lucky happy sorts of people and nothing could be further from the truth.

If these idiot supporters saw how their homo pals really act when they are not there and when they are wiht their own kind then they woudl know how mentally in their feces pals are really like.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 8:15:49 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: allendale
Someday a study will be done asking homosexuals how old they were when they had their first homosexual tryst and how old was their partner. Then there will be little doubt about homosexuality. Of course such a study will never be done.

It was done in 1979 and was called "The Gay Report"

Report on the gay report

It was done by two "gay" activists and included data on first expsoures. Again, IIRC, over 50% of 'gay' men had their first gay sex when they were under 15 years of age and 23% of gays admitted molesting children. Other reports (national crime statistics) establish that "gay" molestors have far greater numbers of victims than "non-gay" molestors (I wanted to say straight but a molestor is too perverted to be called straight)

The first law of homosexuality:
Homosexuals do not reproduce, they recruit.

28 posted on 02/12/2013 8:16:41 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: ArrogantBustard

EXACTLY

I’ve just left two posts stating the same.

The basic fact is that when a boy is raped and molested by another male then it makes them a homosexual, therefore homosexuals touch boys and rape them much more.

Thise crap of calling them something else is trying to deflect attention away who is the real culprits here and hwo are doing what.\\\\Pedophiles they are not, they are homosexual rapists or homosexual child molestors.

The left always use this name game and sadly many on our side fall for it, they are not gay, they are homosexuals or what I call them is feces pushers or pokers.
They have sex with feces and in an argument with a school teacher I told her that the only difference between my son and a homosexal young guy is that the homosexual guy likes ot have sex with feces, it turns them on and they like male asses.

That is the only difference between normal and homosexuals so when the likes of Megyn Kelly her pal Sally Kohn or others who defend them need to wake up.

They are not the happy go lucky guys who like to talk about nail polish and dresses, they are men who like ot have sex with a male ass, who gets turned on by it and who for many of them are attrated to boys and they certainly have mental issues.


29 posted on 02/12/2013 8:23:24 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Sybeck1
"I don't think there's anything that I would ask him, I would just like to see him rot under the prison," the mother said.

Yep. Let the inmates with their own young boys at home deal with him.

30 posted on 02/12/2013 8:47:04 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: manc

So only when an adult male rapes and molests a female child is it pedophilia in your book. Or are you saying that since it’s heterosexual in that case it’s not a problem?

You also seem to be saying that most pedophilia is homosexual and I would be very curious to see where you got that data because it isn’t true. Most pedophilia is man on girl. Either way its a sickening crime, and one that banning openly gay men from being scoutmasters does nothing to prevent, since these sickos by definition operate in total secrecy.


31 posted on 02/12/2013 8:47:20 AM PST by babble-on
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To: longtermmemmory
there is no “normal” homosexual.

EXACTLY!

32 posted on 02/12/2013 8:56:27 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: babble-on
Read this, it cites numerous studies debunking your claim.
33 posted on 02/12/2013 8:57:09 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: babble-on

“I’ll bet 1000000 dollars that this guy was “in the closet” which means that the ban on gays did absolutely nothing to prevent it.”

While true, currently their policies are such that the BSA can claim they’ve done EVERYTHING LEGALLY POSSIBLE to prevent pederasty.

As soon as they start putting the rights of adult volunteers above the rights of the kids, that will no longer be true.

“Well, your boy got raped in part because we decided we needed the money more than your boy’s keester needed to remain an exit-only port. Being stylish and wealthy is better than being poor and principled.”


34 posted on 02/12/2013 9:01:56 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: jwalsh07

I’ll read that if you read (if you finish this one, I can point you to dozens):

PEDIATRICS Magazine (Peer reviewed scientific journal of the American Association of Pediatrics)

Are Children at Risk for Sexual Abuse by Homosexuals?
Carole Jenny, Thomas A. Roesler, Kimberly L. Poyer
Kempe Children’s Center, Department of Pediatrics, University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, Denver, CODepartment of Psychiatry, University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, The National Jewish Center for Immunology and Respiratory Medicine, Denver, COThe Children’s Hospital, Denver, CO
Abstract
Objective. To determine if recognizably homosexual adults are frequently accused of the sexual molestation of children.

Design. Chart review of medical records of children evaluated for sexual abuse.

Setting. Child sexual abuse clinic at a regional children’s hospital.

Patients. Patients were 352 children (276 girls and 76 boys) referred to a subspecialty clinic for the evaluation of suspected child sexual abuse. Mean age was 6.1 years (range, 7 months to 17 years).

Data collected. Charts were reviewed to determine the relationships of the children to the alleged offender, the sex of the offender, and whether or not the alleged offender was reported to be gay, lesbian, or bisexual.

Results. Abuse was ruled out in 35 cases. Seventy-four children were allegedly abused by other children and teenagers less than 18 years old. In 9 cases, an offender could not be identified. In the remaining 269 cases, two offenders were identified as being gay or lesbian. In 82% of cases (222/269), the alleged offender was a heterosexual partner of a close relative of the child. Using the data from our study, the 95% confidence limits, of the risk children would identify recognizably homosexual adults as the potential abuser, are from 0% to 3.1%. These limits are within current estimates of the prevalence of homosexuality in the general community.

Conclusions. The children in the group studied were unlikely to have been molested by identifiably gay or lesbian people.

Here are some other conclusions of true scholarly articles:

“Since 1978, no credible new data have been published that contradict the conclusions” [that pedophilia is a crime committed almost exclusively by heterosexuals].

“Existing studies provide no reason to believe that anything other than a random connection exists between homosexual behavior and child molestation. The typical offender is a heterosexual male.” [p 610]

“Suggests that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male.” [p 609]

Just think of the Sandusky case as your best guideline. An adult male in a stable marriage with children who in total secrecy is also a pedophile of young boys, with no indication of any homosexual relations with any adult men.


35 posted on 02/12/2013 9:17:46 AM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on

This means 18% of the abuse was perpertrated by 2% of the population.


36 posted on 02/12/2013 9:22:11 AM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: babble-on

You understand that even your cherry picked study indicates that same sex pedophilia occurs at rates 6 to 900% higher than same sex representation in society right?

But as a matter of course, almost all pedophiles are male and up to 1/3 of victims are male. You can do the math there. The conclusion is simple. Same sex pedophilia occurs at rates orders of magnitude above the rate of homosexual representation in the population.

And Jerry Sandusky committed homosexual rape. Doesn’t matter who he was married to, the act was same sex rape.


37 posted on 02/12/2013 9:33:21 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: 1010RD

You are absolutely correct on the two-deep. I take it so literally that I have had to turn down friends requests to drive their kids, family friends to a scout meeting.

We normally transport two boys to Scouts in addition to my own. Last summer, my wife and kids were traveling. The two scouts could ride with me, but they live about a mile from each other. One is the son of a longtime family friend. His dad is deployed and as the oldest of several kids, his mom is pretty busy. I called my Unit Commissioner and asked him if he thought 5 minutes alone would be permissable. He said to use my best judgement.
Circumstances prevailed and I didn’t need to worry about it, but it’s always a concern.

Part of the call to the Unit guy was to be on record that I was going to have to break Youth Protection protocol for a short but necessary reason.


38 posted on 02/12/2013 9:53:00 AM PST by cyclotic (In a society of wolves, you do not fight back by creating more sheep-Dan Bongino)
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To: Sybeck1

One important point here is that while the guy was a scout leader, the abuse happened in his house with friends of the kids living in his house, NOT with other boy scouts.

The BSA has a strict rule that no leader can be alone with a scout, to help prevent this type of abuse.


39 posted on 02/12/2013 9:58:18 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The BSA has a strict rule that no leader can be alone with a scout, to help prevent this type of abuse.

In fact, before any adult can go on a Scout Function, they must attend Youth Protection Training, which goes into detail all of the "Do's and Don'ts"

Of course somebody who really wants to harm the kids will know that it's wrong. But it certainly is how the BSA covers themselves legally. But even with all of that. A parent still must be vigilant just the same.

40 posted on 02/12/2013 10:04:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: babble-on
Just think of the Sandusky case as your best guideline. An adult male in a stable marriage with children who in total secrecy is also a pedophile of young boys, with no indication of any homosexual relations with any adult men.

Key word here is "secrecy". They are able to molest young boys because they are not suspected of being a threat. Open homosexuals would not have the opportunity to be alone with boys as often.

41 posted on 02/12/2013 10:11:23 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: babble-on
Objective. To determine if recognizably homosexual adults are frequently accused of the sexual molestation of children.

Peered reviews by ideological morally devoid leftists no doubt. The premise is fatally flawed. This study you tout is as such just more leftist propaganda. If you buy into it THEN you are a useful idiot that even a 'libertarian' claim of moral ambivalence does not excuse.

Children that are homosexually abused could care less why or care less what the pervert who did such feels or what orientation they may think and or claim to be.

The study clearly attempts by flawed premise to suggest that there are 'normal' homosexual sex practitioners -there are not -ALL those that engage in such activities with children or adults are abnormal -they are disordered heterosexuals requiring just discrimination when it comes to access to children.

42 posted on 02/12/2013 10:28:14 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Sybeck1

This is the fault of the Pope, uh, er, oh wait, nevermind.


43 posted on 02/12/2013 10:31:08 AM PST by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: PapaBear3625

Exactly. Therefore it stands to reason that an out-of-the-closet adult homosexual would NOT represent the same threat at all. And since the current policy ONLY excludes the out of the closet group, and does nothing to stop those operating in secrecy, I would say it’s pretty damn ineffective.


44 posted on 02/12/2013 11:04:58 AM PST by babble-on
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To: jwalsh07

You are totally missing the point that male homosexuals who are in relationships with other adult males are abusing children at rates lower than their percentage in the general population.

The men who are sexually abusing young boys are in 98% of cases men whose other sexual relationships are with adult WOMEN. That is the overwhelming result in study after study. There is NO correlation between being a gay man and being a sexual abuser of young people.


45 posted on 02/12/2013 11:10:34 AM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on
Therefore it stands to reason that an out-of-the-closet adult homosexual would NOT represent the same threat at all.

Except for one thing: looking at other groups with significant numbers of gay men, gays push to hire gays. So a gay man in any sort of position of authority will attempt to surround himself with other gay men, including those who are not "out" to the rest of us.

46 posted on 02/12/2013 11:21:42 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: babble-on
The men who are sexually abusing young boys are in 98% of cases men whose other sexual relationships are with adult WOMEN.

You have it backwards.

They are in relationships with women FOR THE PURPOSE OF being able to get access to their young children.

Gay men who are attracted to young boys strive to put themselves in positions of trust where they have access to young boys, whether that be seemingly-straight boyfriend of a mother, priest, teacher, or scoutmaster.

47 posted on 02/12/2013 11:26:55 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: babble-on

You couldn’t be more wrong.

At which homo bathhouse were the studies you are citing performed?

Heterosexual males do not abuse boys. Homos do.

Homos make up somewhere around 2-3% and commit probably half if not more of the child molestation.


48 posted on 02/12/2013 12:02:48 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I don’t think I do have it backwards. Look at the case of Jerry Sandusky. He had a long stable sexually active and fruitful marriage to a woman, and prior to that marriage only had a record of dating women. He was a straight man.

He also had a sickness of idiopathic origin that made him want to have sex with young boys. There is no anti-gay ban on earth that would have had any effect in stopping Sandusky, because he was not gay. He was a heterosexual male pedophile whose victims were male. And the research shows that is who becomes child molesters of both boys and of girls.

Men who - often through some sexual trauma they themselves experienced as a child - have normal heterosexual relationships with other adults, but also a second sexual identity that compels them to molest children.

And again, I reiterate as well that I think it is remarkable that the people on this thread ONLY seem interested in stopping these men from abusing young boys, and seem totally indifferent to the far far more common crime of abusing young girls. I guess that’s mostly because it’s a Boy Scout thread, but I wonder.


49 posted on 02/12/2013 12:49:30 PM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on
He had a long stable sexually active and fruitful marriage to a woman, and prior to that marriage only had a record of dating women. He was a straight man. He also had a sickness of idiopathic origin that made him want to have sex with young boys.

ho·mo·sex·u·al : (Noun) A person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.

A person who sexually desires a male (of whatever age) is, by definition, a homosexual, or at least bisexual. No man who sexually desires other males (of whatever age) can be considered "straight". Are you really going to continue to argue this?

50 posted on 02/12/2013 2:01:31 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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