Posted on 02/11/2013 3:11:37 AM PST by Sub-Driver
I believe that the next Pope and the Pope after that should continue in the same vein as JP II and BXIV — knocking out the liberals, bringing the Catholics closer to the Orthodox and the Oriental Churches by emphasising the first among equals nature of the Western Patriarchate and tossing away a lot of the medieval baggage. This will help in rapprochements with other Christian brethren.
...please explain your comment regarding ‘medieval baggage’...and how it would relate to a ‘conservative’ Pope...
...and rapprochments with other brethren...gee, wasn’t that what VatII was all about? Are you saying we need to Protestantize the Church more than it already has been in the last forty years?
It’s the 20th century dreck surrounding it that got to me. It clashes with Mary.Pontifical Roman Seminary (Pontificio Seminario Romano Maggiore) - founded in 1565; located at the Basilica of St. John Lateran in Rome
it’ll take some time for you to get the reply. He’s probably too busy on Democratic Underground rubbing his hands in glee that a conservative Pope has resigned
Not like Washington you say???
Yeah, right
A Vatican Whistleblower Was Transferred After Exposing Catholic Corruption
http://www.businessinsider.com/carlo-maria-vigano-vatican-corruption-2012-1
Well, if the politics got us a Pope who knocked out communism and a conservative Pope who tweaked the noses with his Regensburg address, then this is God's politics. I put it down to the Holy Spirit guiding the hands that vote.
technically Pelosi gets the discipline if she carries out an abortion herself. Otherwise, she gets told it’s bad, but unfortunately the stick of excommunication isn’t handed out so quickly as before..
I think he won’t. He’s not high-tech. He’ll keep on writing books. But @pontifex will be rested with the office, not the man.
Not like Washington you say???
Want to be buried next to Popes even though you are a mob Boss and kidnapped the daughter of a Vatican Bank official
No Problem..just cough up a little extra money.
http://www.businessinsider.com/vatican-mafia-enrico-de-pedis-ugo-poletti-2012-4
It helps us identify the idiots.
Let’s not be too quick to include that poster with our non-Catholic brothers. more likely some outlier...
Not like Washington you say???
Laundering Money for a Godfather
Pay special attention to this paragraph
“The reports emerged in the Italian media and came just two weeks after the head of the Vatican Bank, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, was sacked amid claims of power struggles and corruption within the Holy See which have been linked to the leaking of sensitive documents belonging to Pope Benedict XVI. “
And this one
“There is speculation that Gotti Tedeschi was aware of the possible Mafia link and was about to name names and police seized paperwork from his home which is said to detail his suspicions and which he had prepared for a handful of trusted sources as he feared his life was possible in danger. “
Or with the other lung of the Church -- the Orthodox, the relations have thawed since both JP II and Pope Benedict have emphasised that the Patriarch of the West is the first among equals
The resting of history is what I'm talking about -- we all have serious dogmatic differences, but until we settle the simpler historical baggage, we can't move forward - it's like us arguing with a Lutheran over his and our guilt over the 30 years wars in the 1600s. That's what I mean by baggage
rapprochements with other brethren - I'm talking specifically about our relationship with the Orthodox and the Oriental and Assyrian Churches.
There are always going to be politics in play for any large organization.
Not like Washington you say???
Yeah, right
A Vatican Whistleblower Was Transferred After Exposing Catholic Corruption
...ok,we get it, you hate Catholics...now go to your room and play like a good little rummy...
Sounds like something straight out of Godfather III.
Maybe he is going to pray for the victims of Pedophile priests and those who covered for them.
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May he is. They sure need the prayer, don’t you think?
Nothing is beneath that creep.
It’s a political organization with a lot of money.
The organization operates on a shoestring.
‘baggage’ is related to the temporal role of the Papacy. A lot of the issues our non-Catholic brethren have is with actions that happened in the 14th century.
...I found your usage of the term ‘baggage’ interesting in your context...that of the next Pope jettisoning it, as if it’s strictly the Church’s to get rid of...and your equation of baggage to ‘issues with non-Catholic brethren’ would seem to cut both ways, would it not?
...my major concern is to avoid further deemphasis of the Deposit of Faith in the name of ‘improved earthly relations’ with those who willingly snubbed the Church..though please understand I am not saying your post suggests any such thing...
Yes, Indeed.
Not like Washington you say???
Maybe a Godfather movie ;-)
“What is behind the Vatileaks plot? Mainly, it seems, it’s a conspiracy against the Pope’s most trusted collaborator: so we should pray that it fails”
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