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A Temporary Majority - The problem Democrats can’t solve.
Weekly Standard ^ | February 18, 2013 | Jay Cost

Posted on 02/10/2013 5:51:39 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Maine Mariner
As if I am interested in taking advice from people on the left who “want to help me win elections.”

Are you sure that you're on the right thread?

21 posted on 02/10/2013 7:22:12 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Perdogg
Reagan won two elections in an era where the dems had the media and there was no other media.

Reagan's elections took place during the infancy of cable television (my parents didn't yet have cable in 1980; I think it was available in their neighborhood in 1983). CNN was equally young; the paradigm of 24/7/365 news-as-entertainment had yet to really get rolling.

There were also some journalists (print and broadcast) who were still relatively objective and not outright leftist shills. Likewise, there was also limited political discourse "online" via the BBS networks. From what I recall, it was even more staunchly conservative than this little corner of the internet.

Back when the news was delivered in small doses by independently-owned newspapers and by local broadcast radio and television, it was tougher for the left to work their propaganda evil. Things were beginning to change in 1980, but Reagan certainly benefitted from the lingering influence of the old system.

22 posted on 02/10/2013 7:22:55 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: nascarnation

All that as to be one is to change the Republicans image to the new fresher younger cooler “thing” with young responsible attractive smart conservative family people while demonizing the young naieve irresponsible party or what they really are. It will take some time and effort to do but eventually the liberal atheist “thing” will die own as we see the fruit of their bad decisions and the fallout thereof. People just don’t get “it” until they go through trying times and hardships...


23 posted on 02/10/2013 7:24:31 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: neverdem
All of this raises the key question: Can the Democrats keep these groups happy and grow the economy?

IMHO YES - we have gone over the cliff just by sheer numbers on the dole and the lack of requirements for the the "taker class" to pay federal income taxes.











GRANT ILLEGAL ALIENS the right to vote and we are never turning back. If the instant granting of voting rights doesn't swamp the boat, the chain migration that follows surely will. UNLESS THE GOP FINDS IT'S GOD GIVEN SPINE AND DOES IT'S OBSTRUCTION JOB, IT IS OVER.
24 posted on 02/10/2013 7:26:42 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: neverdem

I agree the economy has had a big affect on in-migration, but that is temporary (I hope).


25 posted on 02/10/2013 7:28:24 PM PST by umgud
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To: jsanders2001

All that as to be done is to change the Republicans image to the new fresher younger cooler “thing” with young responsible attractive smart conservative family people while demonizing the young naieve irresponsible party for what they really are. It will take some time and effort to do but eventually the liberal atheist “thing” will die down as we see the fruit of their bad decisions and the fallout thereof. People just don’t get “it” until they go through trying times and hardships...


26 posted on 02/10/2013 7:29:17 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

All that as to be done is to change the Republicans image to the new fresher younger cooler “thing” with young responsible attractive smart conservative family people while demonizing the young naieve irresponsible party for what they really are. It will take some time and effort to do but eventually the liberal atheist “thing” will die down as we see the fruit of their bad decisions and the fallout thereof. People just don’t get “it” until they go through trying times and hardships...


27 posted on 02/10/2013 7:32:35 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: neverdem

Unless Republican can recruit conservative minded voters, and run candidates who will inspire them to vote, we are going to end up with a permanent Democrat majority. The kind of voter demographic swings that have happened in the past aren’t in the cards for the future. The millions of Republicans who sat out the last election, or the people who think a third party is the cure, might have sealed the political future of this country with the last election.


28 posted on 02/10/2013 7:33:10 PM PST by pallis
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To: sickoflibs
‘Obama cares for me and is trying to fix things. That's all that counts’

He's made it worse!

29 posted on 02/10/2013 7:35:40 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: null and void
They don’t seem to be having much of a problem holding on to power in North Korea.

Or Detroit, etc.

30 posted on 02/10/2013 7:36:29 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: neverdem

The article says the democrats can’t keep groups happy in a bad economy.

They just have to keep them angry. Blacks are doing terribly under democrat rule, yet they vote almost 100% dem. It’s racial politics.


31 posted on 02/10/2013 7:49:38 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem. G’night all!


32 posted on 02/10/2013 8:22:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: skeeter

That Cuban jerk needs to back off!


33 posted on 02/10/2013 8:55:06 PM PST by STD ( Intellectuals, they seem like a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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To: neverdem

The last 60 years has been simply a case of Republicans, when in Government, working to pay for Democrats expansion of Government.

That model is broken.

I want the non-Democrat party to instead work on truly crashing the Government and its dependents, before they turn the USA into Bolivia.


34 posted on 02/10/2013 9:16:58 PM PST by PGR88
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To: neverdem
Either this guy is a dreamer or he is on some sort of hallucinogenic substance.

Normal electoral politics which had contributed, generally, to the historic "in and out" trends no longer exists.

The strangle hold of this pernicious tyranny that now permanently holds this Nation in it's grip will preclude any "in and out" not engineered by our marxist rulers and supported by the Soviet-likeclass of government bureaucrats.

Just as has happened historically elsewhere on the planet, "in and out" has now become "in and stay in".

35 posted on 02/10/2013 9:46:52 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: nascarnation

“We are definitely swimming against the tide.
Every year 2.5 million (mostly old, white, 60%+ R voting) people die replaced by (mostly minority 70%+ D voting) people.
Two generations of progressive controlled education and the influx of illegals may be too much to overcome.”

The Repbublicans aren’t even a “national party” any more. They’re in the process of “shrinking” into a regional party, with certain areas of the country lost to them forever.

The Northeast, the Great Lakes states, the west coast, the middle-Atlantic region — all of these are either slipping from the Pubbies’ grasp, or already gone for good.

Although the Republicans will remain at the helm of many red-state governments, it doesn’t look good for them to seize the reins of power in D.C. any time soon. If ever….


36 posted on 02/10/2013 10:08:02 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: muawiyah

You can reach further back into history for the demise of this “democracy” (actually, a democratic republic) to the direct election of senators.

I noticed that a congressman pointed out this week that many voters aren’t “invested” in America.

I don’t think property ownership and/or a voter test are in and of themselves outrageous ideas. There is no other aspect of society where “everyone is equal” EXCEPT for voting.


37 posted on 02/10/2013 10:20:47 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Road Glide
The Northeast, the Great Lakes states, the west coast, the middle-Atlantic region — all of these are either slipping from the Pubbies’ grasp, or already gone for good.

You mean all the places in the country that are losing population, representation in the House of Representatives, and in the Electoral College?

Then by all means, lock the GOP out of those areas for the next couple of decades.

Stagnation itself will have the remaining people there looking for an alternative. The only thing that alternative has to do is ask the question, "Are you better off today than you were when the Democrats took over here?"

38 posted on 02/10/2013 11:54:57 PM PST by superloser
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To: Perdogg
Re: “Reagan won two elections in an era where the dems had the media...”

Yes, but only half right.

Reagan also had 83% white voters, 11% Black voters, 2% Hispanic voters, and very low minority voter turn out.

Today, those numbers are 63% white voters, 17% Hispanic, 13% Black, with minority turn out that is high and growing.

Conservatives are usually stunned when they learn that Reagan would have LOST his 1980 election if the racial and ethnic make up of the USA had been the same as 2012.

39 posted on 02/11/2013 1:31:07 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: jsanders2001
Re: “fresher younger cooler voters”

Few people realize that Romney won a majority of young white voters under age 30, both men and women.

The problem for Conservatives is young minority voters.

For instance, young Black women voted 99% for Obama!

Even worse, in terms of population, young minority voters almost split 50-50 with young white voters.

White Conservative elderly voters are dying off.

They are being replaced by Hard Line Socialist minority voters.

40 posted on 02/11/2013 2:01:48 AM PST by zeestephen
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