Skip to comments.Are Sandyhook disbelievers barred from FR ?
Posted on 02/08/2013 8:28:52 AM PST by knarf
I looked and saw no crazy threads disbelieving Sandyhook
I'd pretty much passed by Sandyhook without trying to get into it, sufficient for me was the occasional comment that it was a hoax, but I found this video and wondered
who is in a helicopter, apparently unnoticed hovering around taking very HD video?
How plausable IS Sandyhook being a hoax?
Apparently and you may want to change this out of news/activism and put it in chat/general or blogs.
I’m gonna report you just for bringing it up!
There are so many hoaxes going around regarding Sandy Hook it is pretty pitiful. People seem to be losing all rational thinking and discernment.
Here is a decent article. Every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory debunked. http://www.salon.com/2013/01/18/your_comprehensive_answer_to_every_sandy_hook_conspiracy_theory/?source=newsletter
(at least every at the time of writing of that article, it seems new ones pop up every day).
Seriously, I think we need to start putting Thorazine in the water.
I’ve seen plenty of crazy Sandyhook threads. Or at least conspiracy theorists on normal threads. Maybe they’ve been scrubbed, I don’t know.
Most of the conspiracy theories revolve around a possible cover-up of what guns were used. Which isn’t the craziest.
Well they can post but will be roundly put down. Free speech works both ways ya know.
Private property is also a great thing. If the PTBs here don’t want nutjob conspiracy theory websites and sources like Alex Jones, good on them, it is their private property.
The voice over is frighteningly plausable.
The only legit thing that I’ve seen is the CNN tape of cops running in a different school while CNN was claiming its Sandy Hook and Adam Lanza’s date of death being recorded as the day before.
Other than that, stuff really can’t be proven. Also that fact that NO ONE took a phone video of ANYTHING is a little weird.
Confusion in the early reporting, yes.
Opportunism on Obama’s part—of course!
The press taking Obama’s line on the reporting, and concealing any small facts—like one of the fathers of a murdered child standing up for gun rights—yes.
Just what they always do. No conspiracy needed.
That's been the biggest problem. People confuse media incompetence with conspiracy. It is like the report of an 'AR' pulled from the trunk of his car which was obviously a shotgun (and later confirmed by the police to be a shotgun). Even this week I've seen people here reference this saying he didn't have the AR with him it was in his trunk.
I bought into what you just said ... until I saw that
Only welcome if the disbeliever believes fire doesn’t melt steel.
But that might negatively react and destroy the fluoride they put in the water to control us.........
Why haven’t any posts on this thread been removed by moderator yet? And no zots, or even warnings? I find that a little suspicious, don’t you?
As I've said .. I stumbled on a video and it captured my rational curiosity.
Obviously the lack of moderation on this thread prove the mods are part of the conspiracy on this topic by not moderating comments on this topic... or something like that.
There are A LOT of weird things about this story.
I still can’t figure out why Nurse Cox would say the gunman was a son of a kindergarten teacher that she knew well.
That would have had to have been Vollmer whose son works for Bloomberg. No other kindergarten teacher seems to fit.
I think her comment is why the news media initially thought Nancy Lanza worked for the school.
Many here don’t know that the Sandy Hook reference in the Batman movie may have been because the propmaster was from Newtown. His wife thinks he was murdered. Not in reference to the shooting but because of her tangle with the politicians.
Also, that town was once known for making hats. They subcontracted out the work to people who then dumped the chemicals in the ground. You know the “Mad as a Hatter” phrase.
The town has all kinds of secrets.
No, they are not banned. I have expressed my own doubts and arguments. I don’t go as far as believing the Obama administration orchestrated the whole thing, but I am not buying the official narrative either. I am convinced the murders took place... not convinced Lanza was the only one involved and not convinced the sole weapon was an “assault” rifle. I think there was a larger conspiracy involved and the town is covering it up for whatever reason... or perhaps they will release the details when the “investigation” is over.
I don’t think the feds had anything to do with it other than they had their ducks in a row and a choreographed response waiting for the next mass shooting to go after guns. There might be some evil in the administation, but there are too many good people that work for the government (I am a contractor) for this to be a vast conspiracy that reaches so far.
A point brought out in the first part of the video is that this was just before Christmas and for an elementary school ... it was surprisingly empty of window decorations
What elementary school does NOT decorate its windows for ANY holiday?
He shows 5 minutes of aerial video when there is no action and you are foolish enough to believe that the 5 minute period is representative of the whole morning.
He's the hoax and he's hoaxing you.
He claims that there were no interviews. Who is he kidding -- there were interviews all morning long.
For those of us who spent upwards of 20 hours looking at official and news reports.... i say again... NOTHING makes sense. NOTHING adds up.
A fireman taped off a few vehicles ... why? There were no abulances bringing anyone in ... no crime scene ... but the police tape came out ... why?
Who's in the chopper and why does no one HEAR nor SEE it ?
EXCELLENT lenses and steady-cam footage in my opinion.
All the talked about anti‑gun legislation infringes on our constitutional Second Amendment rights and, if enacted, would do nothing to stop mass murderers and the violence in our larger cities.
Honest, good citizens using firearms for self defense or defense of others in danger stop illegal gun violence, not cause such violence. Bad and mentally disturbed mass murderers look for places where helpless innocents gather and then do killing to get some sick notoriety. Gun type or magazine capacity won't slow these beasts. The CT school shooter had 10+ minutes before police came in. If he only had two old Colt revolvers and a pocket full of cartridges, he would have shot just as many.
Criminals ignore laws, that's why we call them criminals. If drug gang can bring in tons of weed and mega kilos of cocaine, they will also import firearms to protect their turf. Gun registration or restrictions only hit honest citizens, not criminals.
We already have enough gun restrictions, no more are needed. Folks down by the border and we in Milwaukee know the ATF promotes gun running and straw buyers, not stops it.
You are wasting your time with Uncle Chip. He maintains that the first LEOs on the scene with an active shooter shooting up a school committing mass murder would neatly park their car in a parking lot in a line with the rest of the cars.]
There is something else odd about those cars. Notice how almost all of them are backed into their space. Unlike a normal day scene on a Google Map.
I can't believe it was taken in a helicopter. At that distance, any variance in it's position would drastically change the viewing angle of the grounds and I don't think a helicopter can remain motionless that long.
I suspect the camera is mounted on a tower but how did the guy hosting the video get the footage?
Which brings up a question I have. How could an entire town participate in an alleged hoax of this magnitude without someone coming forward and blowing the whistle on it?
Have you seen the tape about the wardrobe change??
On the original helicopter footage the yellow shirt guy is at the beginning and the second guy is at the end.
One possible explanation for the behavior of the Yellow Shirt guy is that there was an incident involving a camera man that went on for some time.
Yellow shirt dude may have just been hanging around to see what happened.
It shows people waiting on news as to whether their children are alive or dead. They would obviously not be able to stay put but would be trying to walk off their nervousness and uncertainty.
<>A fireman taped off a few vehicles ... why? There were no abulances bringing anyone in ... no crime scene ... but the police tape came out ... why?<>
What are you talking about??? Here —
1] Interview with one of two mothers who witnessed the 8 to 10 kids running down to the firehouse, the Lanzas Honda with black sweatshirts strewn on the ground and all 4 doors open [indication that it had probably already been searched], the broken plate glass window at the front door, the unusual quiet just before the final gunshots rang out from inside the school, and the kids subsequently and orderly evacuating the building:
2] Video at 0:24 of the broken plate glass window at the front door of the school:
3] Police dispatch with video [at 0:50] of the broken plate glass window at the front door of the school:
4] Police Dispatch of the Sandy Hook shooting:
5] STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK
6] Details of shooting at Wikipedia with other resources and links:
7] State Police: All 26 Newtown victims shot with the Bushmaster
8]Marilyn Gudsnuk real Sandy Hook eye witness. Sees 2 boys in front of fire station running from the school as 7 or 8 police cars were going in opposite direction.
“Which brings up a question I have. How could an entire town participate in an alleged hoax of this magnitude without someone coming forward and blowing the whistle on it? “
It can’t. That doesn’t mean something weird isn’t going on.
I truly believe there are disinformation people out there that gin up some of the wildest theories. That guy from Dallas posts all kinds of wild stuff about people looking like other people that clearly don’t look like the other person. Some do look pretty similar. Like the Nick Phelps character but there still seems to be differences.
How is he able to pick some obscure random film or one clip out of dozens and dozens of episodes of a television series and hook it into people who have been interviewed on Sandy Hook or other tragedies. I don’t know. Something weird about that guy.
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Darn; missed it.
Unfortunately for you there is a lot of video of the school that morning showing exactly that -- but you think people here are too moronic to look at it for themselves.
I don't THINK I said anything remove worthy ... but I'm no mod
I've asctually been VERY careful what I say and how I word it because I DON'T want the thread pulled nor any comments deleted.
Maybe it's a conspiracy ?
Sandy Hook DA cites ‘potential suspects,’ fears witness safety
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342829#ixzz2KKUNz3nE
You’re “Class of ‘98” and you are asking if believers of Sandy Hook conspiracies are being banned?
Every mortgage paid off, every job secure, every financial need met ...
Stroke o'the pen, law o'the land, kind'a cool, eh ?
This is insanity.
There is no way to “hoax” anything this big.
No one believes SS is an illegal Ponzi scam, neither.
Warm up the VICKING ZOT Kitties.
Somebody is trolling for ignorant comments.
I agree. Just reported this troll. No news, just trolling for ignorant comments.
“Unfortunately for you there is a lot of video of the school that morning showing exactly that — but you think people here are too moronic to look at it for themselves.”
Then that footage would be a big red flag.
Are you a parent? Would you want cops who are responding to an active shooter that could shoot your kid dead to actually neatly park their car in a parking space before they raced in to try to stop the shooter?
It is preposterous.
I may have been wrong about the helicopter too....after watching the video closer, the camera does appear to be moving.
The biggest problem I see is the over abundance of inaccurate information that has been put out there by all the media outlets in an attempt to get their story read first, not that they're trying to cover anything up. Sheer laziness in my opinion....
As a side note, I don't believe this video was taken on the day of the shooting but rather it's film coverage of a disaster exercise that involved both locations that were shown..........I could be wrong but I'm in no position to defend my observation.
Well ... none of your links work
You are way off topic.
So you're basically trying to push Sandy Hook conspiracy nonsense without getting your posts deleted or account banned?
I am sure you know perfectly well that serious conservative sites and shows don't want anything to do with these lunatic conspiracy theories, yet you are pushing them here anyway. Why not just go to one of Alex Jones' sites? Places like InfoWars or PrisonPlanet are set up so you can post conspiracy theories and discuss them with like minded people. Why not just go there with the conspiracy stuff, and come back to FR when you want to discuss normal conservative agenda items?
If they aren’t, they should be. It does not reflect well upon FR that this is a subject of disucssion here. Just plain lunatic!