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Krugman: Death Panels and Middle-Class Tax Hikes Ahead
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 02/07/2013 | IBD Staff

Posted on 02/08/2013 5:09:52 AM PST by IBD editorial writer

Big Government: We almost never agree with President Obama's favorite economist Paul Krugman, but he recently spoke the truth about where Obama's policies are taking the country. It should scare anyone with a pulse.

Krugman, after speaking at the Sixth & I Historic Synagogue in Washington, D.C., was asked about the debt crisis. After arguing it's no big deal in the near term, Krugman admitted that "Eventually we do have a problem. The population is getting older, health care costs are rising ... . Something is going to have to give."

What's that something?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; krugman; middleclass; obamacare; taxes; zerocare

1 posted on 02/08/2013 5:10:09 AM PST by IBD editorial writer
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To: IBD editorial writer; Nachum; ExTexasRedhead; katiedidit1

When we went to pick up our monthly meds at the drug store there was a sign up for ALL RETIRED MILITARY ON TRICARE FOR LIFE

New Co-pay increases, the $5 stays at $5, the $12 goes to $17, the $25 goes to $44. This along with the gutting congress is doing to Military health care that has not gone through yet.

Retiree’s have not had a pension or SS raise but once in 4 years. Stinking 1.7& SS half went to Medicare so you got about $40 per month, not even a tank of gas and a gallon of milk.

Yet we are not taxing the middle class.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 5:30:43 AM PST by GailA ( those who do not keep promises to the Military, won't keep them to U)
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To: IBD editorial writer
Krugman: "We won't be able to pay for the kind of society we want without some increases in taxes," he said, "and surely in the end it will require some middle-class taxes as well, maybe a value added tax."

Who's this "we" you're babbling about, Krugman? I do not want the type od society you're trying to create even if it didn't cost any more.

3 posted on 02/08/2013 5:32:37 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

They want to get rid of the last major cohort of Caucasians. And we won’t hear a peep out of Caucasians about this racism, as usual.


4 posted on 02/08/2013 5:33:19 AM PST by Wage Slave (Army Mom!)
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To: IBD editorial writer

> Krugman, after speaking at the Sixth & I Historic Synagogue in Washington, D.C., was asked about the debt crisis. After arguing it’s no big deal in the near term, Krugman admitted that “Eventually we do have a problem. The population is getting older, health care costs are rising ... . Something is going to have to give.”

What’s that something?

It’s alway US never THEM to answer his question

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5 posted on 02/08/2013 5:45:22 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: IBD editorial writer

Bump


6 posted on 02/08/2013 5:46:36 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
If the Supreme Court does not rule 0bama's Death Panels UNCONSTITUTIONAL then the Country is definitely lost. Are we not guaranteed LIFE, LIBERTY and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS?
7 posted on 02/08/2013 5:50:10 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: Wage Slave

You will hear a peeep from me! I have felt for a time that the browns, etc. are trying to get rid of the whites. And i am almost to the point of saying ok, you can have it . see if you can pay for it.


8 posted on 02/08/2013 5:50:20 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Wage Slave

> They want to get rid of the last major cohort of Caucasians. And we won’t hear a peep out of Caucasians about this racism, as usual.

I’m a minority now and I want my benefits.../s

Actually I know quite a few Caucasians that have had to appy for food stamps and other forms of government aid and were turned down despite having exhausted all of their checking and savings accounts and barely being able to make ends meet. After I visited the Department of Human Services awhile back I noticed one thing that really stood out. Almost all black and Hispanic employees and if there were any white employees they looked to be very low income trailer park types but they were vastly outnumbered. I think the government employees are purposely discriminating against the white applicants now in many offices. I don’t don’t if it’s because the white folks are telling the truth about their current financial conditions or if the other minorities have mire children or not but I do remember seeing brand new Ford F-150s and Cadillac Escalades sitting in the parking lot that day.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 5:57:42 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Wage Slave

> They want to get rid of the last major cohort of Caucasians. And we won’t hear a peep out of Caucasians about this racism, as usual.

I’m a minority now and I want my benefits.../s

Actually I know quite a few Caucasians that have had to appy for food stamps and other forms of government aid and were turned down despite having exhausted all of their checking and savings accounts and barely being able to make ends meet. After I visited the Department of Human Services awhile back I noticed one thing that really stood out. Almost all black and Hispanic employees and if there were any white employees they looked to be very low income trailer park types but they were vastly outnumbered. I think the government employees are purposely discriminating against the white applicants now in many offices. I don’t know if it’s because the white folks are telling the truth about their current financial conditions or if the other minorities have more children or not but I do remember seeing brand new Ford F-150s and Cadillac Escalades sitting in the parking lot that day and it made me a little angry knowing someone that had applied recently and told they could only get $16 a month in food stamps


10 posted on 02/08/2013 5:59:29 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: IBD editorial writer

The republic is done, dissolve the union. Do it either peacefully this time or in a bitter desperate Civil War. I am good either way.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 6:03:46 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
If the voters want all the benefits the welfare state has to offer, then they should be willing to pick up the tab. The problem is that most voters believe that they can tax the "rich" to pay for it. The reality is that there is not enough money from the rich even if you were to confiscate all their wealth.

When Willie Sutton was asked why he robbed banks, he responded, "That's where the money is." Well, the middle class is where the real money is and they will have to pay the piper if they want all their entitlement and welfare programs to continue. Reality is a bitch.

12 posted on 02/08/2013 6:16:58 AM PST by kabar
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To: Wage Slave

Democrats claim republicans don’t care about the elderly.

Then they set out to MURDER the elderly because the elderly in their eyes are worthless and unproductive.

I know of countless real life cases of families that stood by a mom or grandmom and saw them to a recovery and another decade of family life. No more.

And the elderly aren’t strong enough to fight back.


13 posted on 02/08/2013 6:47:01 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Anyone who voted for Obama and didn’t realize that his policies were leading us to death panels and a huge middle class tax hike is a complete idiot. We talk about how the time is coming when “America” will have to pay its obligations. We have to be more precise here. We passed the point where “the rich” were paying a long time ago. Now that is not enough and the time is coming when the middle class is going to have to pay too. And we are too far down the road to stop it.


14 posted on 02/08/2013 7:02:59 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: IBD editorial writer
Krugman admitted that "Eventually we do have a problem. The population is getting older, health care costs are rising ... . Something is going to have to give."

Krugman advocates "Final Solution 2".


15 posted on 02/08/2013 7:37:34 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: jsanders2001

“Actually I know quite a few Caucasians that have had to appy for food stamps and other forms of government aid and were turned down”

This has been going on for a long time. Back in ‘92 I was a low income college student and decided that as a new Veteran I would go to the local social security office and try to get Medicaid (medicare?) for catastrophic coverage. I was told flat out, “you a white boy, go get a job!”


16 posted on 02/08/2013 8:26:50 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: GailA

Add that the cost of TriCare for active & Reserve Military went up & a cut in the number of troops plus only a 1.7% increase in Base Pay is proposed.


17 posted on 02/08/2013 8:47:08 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: CSM
I was told flat out, “you a white boy, go get a job!”

Was the person who told you that white? (I'm betting $0.25 she was black.)

18 posted on 02/08/2013 11:31:49 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Are we not guaranteed LIFE, LIBERTY and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS?

No, we are not. That's from the Declaration not the Constitution. It is the belief that by coming into existence, we are endowed intrinsically with those rights, or abilities to be self-generating and self-supportive to pursue the things that give our lives meaning without coercion. Also, it does not mean that health-care must be provided to prolong your existence. Just like it does not mean that the government should give you free money, food, cheap utilities, rent money, etc. It only means you have the ability to go earn it yourself.

19 posted on 02/08/2013 1:23:13 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: The Sons of Liberty; IBD editorial writer

20 posted on 02/08/2013 5:14:03 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Yep. I was the only “white boy” in the place at that particular time.


21 posted on 02/10/2013 7:21:12 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
Everybody wants healthcare services they do not pay for. That is not going to work.

Medicare premiums do not come remotely close to covering the healthcare services the elderly believe they have "paid for".

And then they get outraged when the doctors and hospitals say no mas.

FYI I am approaching 60, I know Medicare will be gone by the day I turn 80, and have no illusions about that.

22 posted on 02/13/2013 7:39:47 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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