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Former Special Forces Commander: DOD Could Have Flown Rescue Team From Tripoli to Benghazi;...
CnsNews.com ^ | February 7, 2013 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 02/07/2013 1:44:43 PM PST by Perseverando

(CNSNews.com) - Retired Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin--formerly commander of U.S. Special Forces Command and deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence—told CNSNews.com that, if it had been asked, the Defense Department could have sent a plane to Libya on Sept. 11, 2012, to transport a rescue team of U.S. security personnel that instead ended up taking a chartered private plane from Tripoli to Benghazi that night.

“There is no question that we could have moved an airplane in there and we could have also put boots on the ground at the embassy,” Gen. Boykin told CNSNews.com.

“State should have coordinated with DOD and said: We’ve got to have an airplane,” said Gen. Boykin. “The Department of Defense could have provided an airplane in there. All they had to do was ask.”

A Defense Department official told CNSNews.com, however, that the type of aircraft that was used that night and the decision to use it were both determinations made by the State Department. But the Defense Department official also said that DOD would not have been able to get a plane to Tripoli to fly the security team to Benghazi as quickly as the State Department’s chartered plane did.

According to a timeline released by the Office of Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the chartered private plane took off from Tripoli and headed to Benghazi with the rescue team about 2 hours and 48 minutes after the terrorist attack in Benghazi started at 9:42 p.m. Libya time.

According to the State Department Accountability Review Board (ARB) report, the department’s temporary duty regional security officer (TDY RSO) in charge of the security detail at the department’s Benghazi mission on Sept. 11, 2012 was monitoring a security camera and saw the terrorists swarm through the front gate of the compound

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
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1 posted on 02/07/2013 1:44:53 PM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

The troops were ordered to “stand down”.
Obama wanted no rescue. Hillary allowed them to die. All knew what was going on.
It’s not a story if the media refuse to report it!/S


2 posted on 02/07/2013 1:50:14 PM PST by 9422WMR
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
There is just so much to this. Deep and dark and evil. You can smell it.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

3 posted on 02/07/2013 1:51:33 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Perseverando

This is getting perverse. I couldn’t have written a fiction novel that could measure. Decades of decadence. This country is so screwed!


4 posted on 02/07/2013 1:52:39 PM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites. is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Perseverando

As I said earlier:

At Airliner speed it is 1 hour 14 minutes from Sig to Benghazi. AC-130 would be longer, a Fighter much less. Assuming there was a Ready alert , the could be up in less than an hour. Add the time ans we could have helped.

Whatever happened to the story of an ADM and a Gen being relieved for attempting to help? Some body ordered all these stand down, who?


5 posted on 02/07/2013 1:54:01 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: Perseverando
Q: Why did the First Undocumented Moslem-Communist
sleep so well that night while the Ambassador
was gang raped and murdered on US "soil" in Benghazi?

A: Because the pRes_ _ent KNEW
that MANPADs and WMD were FINALLY
on their way to al Qaeda, the Moslem Brotherhood,
Iran and his other controllers and terrorist-friends.
And to his long-deserved sleep he went.



"Dead and raped Ambassadors. Murdered Patriotic Seals.
MANPADs to al Qaeda to kill innocents EVERYWHERE.
What difference does it make?"


6 posted on 02/07/2013 1:58:17 PM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Perseverando
With all that we have suspected and now confirmed, gun running to the Syrian terrorists, probably weapons smuggling to Hamas, Obama missing, Hillary caught lying .. I still get the impression there is some huge deep dark secret that we don't know. And where are the 30 or more survivors and why and how have they been so disappeared?
7 posted on 02/07/2013 2:00:28 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Perseverando
"AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. This is what the general told Rep. Jason Chaffetz after the 9-11 Benghazi terror" attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4W1LDSs5X4
8 posted on 02/07/2013 2:14:15 PM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: Perseverando

There are some reasons why they didn’t fly there:

The core part of the Libyan op was MANPADS to “rebels”. This shadowed the intervention pattern when the Russians were in Afghanistan. There were something less than 22,000 MANPADS floating around North Africa, particularly in Bengazi —a clear shoot-down risk.

There was probably even some worry that the attack had been initiated specifically to cause the on-scene arrival of one or more large US transport/rescue aircraft into an AMBUSH, in a kind of “Blackhawk Down” imbroglio.

There’s the possibility that the plan was a prisoner swap gone bad, but a darker one is that higher-ups sensed the sensitivity of a compromised Large-Scale Smuggling Operation and simply hoped for a time that everyone in The Annex would be killed, thereby keeping it quiet.


9 posted on 02/07/2013 2:22:46 PM PST by gaijin
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To: MestaMachine
There is just so much to this. Deep and dark and evil. You can smell it.

It's called a communist mole in the White House whose goal is to destroy America. It's becoming more and more evident every day. More at Commieblaster. So is Blizzard Warning NYC going to trump Panetta stating Obama was AWOL on Benghazi?

10 posted on 02/07/2013 2:51:44 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Perseverando

We lived in the European theatre, and exactly where all these decisions are made. This testimony by General Boykin is true. We could have gotten planes there in plenty of time. Obama figures that most Americans are low information critters that just want to be told what to do. They believe anything as long as the free stuff keeps coming in. He forgets that of the rest of the nation, we have pretty much all had minimum one, and often many more family members to serve in the military. Or, we’ve served the military in some way. We are not all juveniles, even if it seems that all most live for is recreation. It was obvious from the get-go that there was SOME reason that these people were not rescued, and after watching this administration function (and I use that term loosely) the past 4 years, we are sure that what should have been done was not. The Obama admin. is VERY MUCH LIKE the Clintons’ in that they learned how to avoid responsibility, get around subpoenas, run out the clock on investigations by stalling and refusing to give any credible information, etc.

Personally, I’ve come to believe that Obama wanted Stevens kidnapped so he could exchange the blind sheik to get him back. But, instead of a kidnapping, it went wrong. To me, this makes the most sense, and you bet that the someone who had to give the order to stand down was THE ONE, himself. I pray that they finally find something that puts Obama’s lies in such an incredible light that even the left demand his resignation or impeachment.


11 posted on 02/07/2013 2:54:51 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Shery
I pray that they finally find something that puts Obama’s lies in such an incredible light that even the left demand his resignation or impeachment.

This is getting ridiculous. Will this be a tipping point the Obama Media Group finally turns around?

. . or will they cover for him to the bitter end?

12 posted on 02/07/2013 3:08:08 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks for the ping.


13 posted on 02/07/2013 3:26:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Perseverando

Rotors were turning at NAS Sigonella. Someone stood them down.


14 posted on 02/07/2013 3:36:34 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Perseverando
If I can save just one person it will all be worth it...Barak Obama

I guess an Ambassador, an assistant, and two SEALS were not worth it but gun control is.

15 posted on 02/07/2013 3:47:59 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Perseverando

Probably not realistic, given Hollywood politics, but this entire event deserves a movie - possibly a keystone cops sorta thing, but serious since at the end people die.

I guess no matter what resources our government has, someone needs to make a decision for use and when that doesn’t happen, gather around the wagons and cover all butts all the way to the top.


16 posted on 02/07/2013 3:53:40 PM PST by unique3
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To: Perseverando
No doubt about it. A rescue could have been mounted.

Three Facts

Fact One:

1) Only the POTUS can authorize a CBA (cross border authority) command for a rescue mission in a foreign nation.

Plus Fact Two:

2) No rescue mission was attempted.

Equals Fact Three:

3) 0bama turned his back on 41 State Dept. and CIA employees refusing to issue a CBA command and went to bed so he could go to Las Vegas the next day.

17 posted on 02/07/2013 4:09:31 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Truth29
And where are the 30 or more survivors and why and how have they been so disappeared?

My question exactly. Who are they? Where are they? How have they been silenced?

18 posted on 02/07/2013 4:12:16 PM PST by Faith
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To: mortal19440

‘...Some body ordered all these stand down, who?...’

That IS THE question! I’m not sure I heard anyone ask that question specifically and clearly.


19 posted on 02/07/2013 4:31:22 PM PST by 4integrity
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To: TigersEye

http://pjmedia.com/blog/benghazis-smoking-gun-only-president-can-give-%E2%80%98cross-border-authority%E2%80%99/

Mark Levin was hot and heavy all over this tonight. He used slightly different terms, saying several times “Only the president can authorize a cross-border operation!”

Other phrases came straight from my column, a hat tip would be nice, but is not expected.


20 posted on 02/07/2013 4:38:46 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TigersEye

That was a great link you posted. Love that big font. I felt like screaming. I still do. At least Mark Levin is on it now.


21 posted on 02/07/2013 4:40:08 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 4integrity
‘...Some body ordered all these stand down, who?...’,


22 posted on 02/07/2013 4:45:32 PM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Perseverando
should have

Not when you hate America like Obama and Clinton do. Plus, if it turned into a real fire fight it would have brought to light Obama's illegal gun running to the Jihadis. If this were a GOP administration this would be front and center 25/8.

23 posted on 02/07/2013 4:50:37 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Faith
"My question exactly. Who are they? Where are they? How have they been silenced?"

Yes, and what dark secret are they hiding that is even beyond gun running? The cover-up leads to conspiracy theories. Could they have been transferring chemical weapons to the Syrian Jhadis to fake an attack by Assad's forces, for instance? Could they have been funneling weapons to groups which were known to be transferring them to Gaza to attack Israel? There is more there yet to be uncovered and the missing staff, and maybe locals, probably have the answer but have been disappeared.

24 posted on 02/07/2013 4:57:53 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29

The Annex was completely a CIA deal. The 31 individuals there were probably all from the Directorate of Operations proper, and DO agents (that just means people being paid to carry out a task or fulfill some need for the DO).

Those people know what they’re signing on for and can be counted on to dummy-up or disappear if something like this type of disaster occurs —THAT is why the US public has not seen any of them interviewed on TV, answering questions that I think are all valid and excellent.

You can be pretty sure that even if they were questioned publically that they would lie their a$$es off.

I think it is possible that some enhanced interrogation was being carried out by our guys on the 3-5 enemy detainees that were housed there at the Bengazi Annex (and liberated, by the enemy).

If this came out it would show that the Iran-Contra ambitions of Obama went far, far beyond Reagan, and his Abu Ghraib antics far surpassed those of Bush.

I say this because the Drone hypocrisy has already been made clear, as of yesterday.


25 posted on 02/07/2013 6:01:55 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

26 posted on 02/07/2013 6:05:33 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Travis McGee; All

Good work, Matt.

I appreciate your efforts.

You are a stand up guy.

I wish we had a thousand like you.


27 posted on 02/07/2013 6:08:48 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Travis McGee

That’s dynamite. Too bad he didn’t give an attribution but it’s good that it’s getting out there. I would sure like to hear some Fox News talking heads, Congressmen and Senators start spelling it out.


28 posted on 02/07/2013 6:22:40 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: gaijin

I agree with your observations, based on my limitied knowledge.


29 posted on 02/07/2013 6:48:28 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: gaijin

Interesting graphic. Obama’s on a regular killing spree.


30 posted on 02/07/2013 6:56:18 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: gaijin

Can’t believe we aren’t able to rig the MANPADS. To not work against friendly AC. Back in the Cold War we rigged a bunch of telecom equipment sold to Poland so that in the event of war, it could be disabled and would have cut the Warsaw Pact com lines running through Poland. Surely we could do better against. A bunch of 7th century Mooselimb terrorists....


31 posted on 02/07/2013 8:08:43 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kozak

The vast majority of the transferred MAPADS were Soviet Block derivatives, not Stinger, et. al.

Soviet Bloc gear is generally constructed with a mind for extreme reliability, which means they are less sophisticated and built with peasants or farmers in mind and so at this level do not have P.A.L.’s, etc.

By contrast usually with Stinger the (very hard to get) battery expires, and the solid fuel will naturally degrade. Probably by now there are additional, new (e.g. electronic) PAL’s they’re using.


32 posted on 02/07/2013 8:26:50 PM PST by gaijin
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To: TADSLOS

Not necessarily... that’s just deaths by drone strike, not unlike Clinton’s effort to use cruise missiles to compensate for being timid on the ground after he got burned in Somalia and ran away with his tail between his legs. Note that it does not offer figures for terrorists killed by more conventional means on the ground by people on the ground, or by other types of aircraft, so we can compare.


33 posted on 02/07/2013 11:07:07 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: TigersEye
3) 0bama turned his back on 41 State Dept. and CIA employees refusing to issue a CBA command and went to bed so he could go to Las Vegas the next day.

That, and he knew that this was just the culmination of a choreographed hostage-taking he could use to justify the release of that "blind sheik" guy.

No need to stay up late for that.

34 posted on 02/08/2013 5:01:09 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Truth29
Yes, and what dark secret are they hiding that is even beyond gun running? The cover-up leads to conspiracy theories. Could they have been transferring chemical weapons to the Syrian Jhadis to fake an attack by Assad's forces, for instance? Could they have been funneling weapons to groups which were known to be transferring them to Gaza to attack Israel? There is more there yet to be uncovered and the missing staff, and maybe locals, probably have the answer but have been disappeared.

There is nothing this administration will not do to support the Muslim Brotherhood or to undermine the Constitution and endanger the lives of American citizens.

35 posted on 02/08/2013 7:39:25 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: gaijin

sad...


36 posted on 02/11/2013 12:15:41 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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