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1 posted on 02/06/2013 6:59:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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I am just surprised that US bonds have anything but a junk rating


2 posted on 02/06/2013 7:02:40 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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List of assets owned by Berkshire Hathaway

Moody’s Corporation (19.1%)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Berkshire_Hathaway


3 posted on 02/06/2013 7:08:07 AM PST by jimbo123
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June 1, 2010, 6:21 PM
Warren Buffett to Break His Silence about Moody’s

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2010/06/01/warren-buffett-to-break-his-silence-about-moodys/

Warren Buffett usually loves talking about his investments — both the successful ones and his few flops.

But Buffett’s relationship with Moody’s Investment Services is unusual. The CEO of Berkshire Hathaway has said very little about his 13% stake in the rating firm, which has come under heavy fire for its role in the financial crisis. You know the complaints by now: That Moody’s and rivals S&P and Fitch negligently inflated ratings on mortgage securities, as they grew ever keener to win business from Wall Street banks and other underwriters.


4 posted on 02/06/2013 7:11:18 AM PST by jimbo123
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Oh yeah, there are a whole lot of paybacks eminating from the District of Corruption - many more to come in the next 48 months of King Obama I.


5 posted on 02/06/2013 7:15:03 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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Payback is a bitch.

I hope that S&P won’t be intimidated by this and continues to give the US exactly the rating deserved.


7 posted on 02/06/2013 7:23:48 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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According to William Black, the last fed regulator who closed S&L during the S&L crisis of the 1980’s, finding the rating agencies guilty is not so hard. The key witnesses against the rating firms will be the analysts that work for it. One of the criterias to determine fraud or incompentence is comparing the firms actions against common practice of the industry. Example, Bank A pays rating agency to assign a rating for a mortgage portfolio. Analyst will ask for the data (includes applicants application/docs for each mortgage note in the portfoilio). Base on all the data given, the analyst can calculate the risk of the portfolio. Analyst can verify the info on the applicants application to double check the veracity of the loan data. Problem is many banks accepted/encouraged liar loans, where applicants made up income, asset info and the banks doctured the credit scores. Fearing the analysts working for the rating agencies will detect these aberate data, banks have refused to provide it to the analysts assigned to rate their products. Instead the bankers call the analysts supervisors to complain they were getting unsatisfactory service from the analysts and if the situation is not rectified the bank will take their future business to other rating agencies!!! Since the rating agencies are paid huge fees to analyze/rate bank products, they cave to the bankers’ pressure and instruct their analysts to find a way to satisfy the banker client. IAW assign a AAA rating or be fired. Many analysts fearing their reputation being damaged by the forced illegal acts have maintained copies of MFR just in case their AAA ratings become an issue again. I think the gov may have a case if many analysts testify of being pressured by management to assign a AAA rating despite the fact that the banks did not provide the data requested. The sad part is the rating agency CEO is the ones trapped between their analysts testifying against them and the banks denying they coerced the rating agencies into lying. Bottom line the CEO and exec are the ones going to jail and fined, not the analyst who were protesting the illegal act and the banker who created the mess.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 7:31:44 AM PST by Fee
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Department of Justice sued Standard & Poor's for $5 billion.

Guess who gets the money. Government agencies suing private enterprise has become a major source of funding for the beast. The pharmaceutical industry has been dealing with these reoccurring multi-billion dollar government feedings for a while now. They just work it into the price the productive sector must pay.

10 posted on 02/06/2013 8:01:08 AM PST by Reeses
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Nobody gets it. Of course it’s payback, but that’s not all — it’s a warning to the other ratings agencies not to downgrade the U.S. again. It also gives Obama cover to pretend that any future downgrades, whether by S&P or anybody else, is itself payback for this lawsuit.


11 posted on 02/06/2013 8:25:01 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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S&P and Moody's should not be sued by the FedGov.

They should be prosecuted for criminal fraud.

And convicted of same.

12 posted on 02/06/2013 9:35:42 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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